DUST Search - The Truly most unbalanced weapon in this game....

hackerzilla wrote:

semperfi1999 wrote:

To respond to all other threads that are made about OP weapons....at this time the most OP weapon is infact the.........

LAV

Most OP weapon in the game. Free versions of this weapon can withstand every AV nade other than the proto packed AV nade. I have even seen the free versions withstand 1 shot from a protoswarm. Then if you spend money on them you can get them with 50% resistance.......which is crazy.

It is without a doubt the most OP weapon in the game and it is FREE...you can run free suits with a free LAV and completely destroy the enemy and it takes high lvl weaponry just to hurt you.

This needs to be balanced out. Until this is balanced all other weaponry pales in comparison to this OP monstrosity.

"Free versions can withstand every AV nade other than proto packed AV nade." A damaged LAV dies from 1 below proto. Any proto one shots starter LAVs and below proto take 2 to kill, almost 1. You make it sound like they're invinsible when thats far from the truth.

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semperfi1999 Internal Error. League of Infamy 591	Posted - 2013.07.08 23:07:00 - [1] - Quote To respond to all other threads that are made about OP weapons....at this time the most OP weapon is infact the......... LAV Most OP weapon in the game. Free versions of this weapon can withstand every AV nade other than the proto packed AV nade. I have even seen the free versions withstand 1 shot from a protoswarm. Then if you spend money on them you can get them with 50% resistance.......which is crazy. It is without a doubt the most OP weapon in the game and it is FREE...you can run free suits with a free LAV and completely destroy the enemy and it takes high lvl weaponry just to hurt you. This needs to be balanced out. Until this is balanced all other weaponry pales in comparison to this OP monstrosity.
KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 304	Posted - 2013.07.08 23:13:00 - [2] - Quote PLUS: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=93021&find=unread
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 299	Posted - 2013.07.08 23:47:00 - [3] - Quote mlt lavs need a serious nerf. only vehicle specialists should get to run people over.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4758	Posted - 2013.07.08 23:54:00 - [4] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: mlt lavs need a serious nerf. only vehicle specialists should get to run people over. Disagree, they can be easily destroyed with 2 STD AV grenades. The problem is that LAVs in general require so little momentum to one-hit-kill infantry, sometimes just a small tap is enough. Also LAVs take damage from hitting walls and rocks, yet they don't get damaged from hitting armored and shielded dropsuits; LAVs need to take some damage based on the mass, HP, and speed in which they ram a dropsuit. It shouldn't be so high that hitting one player instantly blows up the LAV, but it should discourage that style of play.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1581	Posted - 2013.07.09 00:05:00 - [5] - Quote Buff LAV's. LAV Proficiency = +15% bumper width per level
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 394	Posted - 2013.07.09 00:16:00 - [6] - Quote Beep beep make way for my logistics battering ram killer cabbie but hurt imminent.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1132	Posted - 2013.07.09 00:31:00 - [7] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: To respond to all other threads that are made about OP weapons....at this time the most OP weapon is infact the......... LAV Most OP weapon in the game. Free versions of this weapon can withstand every AV nade other than the proto packed AV nade. I have even seen the free versions withstand 1 shot from a protoswarm. Then if you spend money on them you can get them with 50% resistance.......which is crazy. It is without a doubt the most OP weapon in the game and it is FREE...you can run free suits with a free LAV and completely destroy the enemy and it takes high lvl weaponry just to hurt you. This needs to be balanced out. Until this is balanced all other weaponry pales in comparison to this OP monstrosity. You saw a militia LAV survive from being hit by 1980 damage (That's without prof or damage mods). I call bullshit. I have yet to find a militia LAV that could withstand more then one volley of my swarms. BTW two AV grenades and they're gone.
Cosgar ParagonX 2352	Posted - 2013.07.09 00:35:00 - [8] - Quote double post
Cosgar ParagonX 2352	Posted - 2013.07.09 00:36:00 - [9] - Quote Regular LAVs are a joke, it's the LLAV and physics when you run someone over that need work. But instead of nerfing it, I'd like to see them implement webifiers, so we can slow LAVs down to a crawl. (Please make it work on dropsuits too)
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization 20	Posted - 2013.07.09 00:58:00 - [10] - Quote ok u saw a mlt free lav survive a proto swarm? really most tank cant even survive a single proto swarm u stupid idiot!.....

TEBOW BAGGINS Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 672	Posted - 2013.07.09 01:01:00 - [11] - Quote they never should have buffed the free lav
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 300	Posted - 2013.07.09 01:03:00 - [12] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Regular LAVs are a joke, it's the LLAV and physics when you run someone over that need work. But instead of nerfing it, I'd like to see them implement webifiers, so we can slow LAVs down to a crawl. (Please make it work on dropsuits too) No, we can't do that because then you are making tanks impossible to play outside of the redline and dropships...oh my god dont even get me started on a dropship that cant move in the air,
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4748	Posted - 2013.07.09 01:06:00 - [13] - Quote If they aren't going to fix their game, they should at least let us remove the turret, and have someone able to fire their weapon from the back. If we're going to play sharks in the water, we should be CRABPEOPLE (do dat shuffle) and ride our viscous steeds into glorious combat. DUST 514; SPACE, IN THE OCEAN, WITH CRAB PEOPLE Seriously though. L2Physics? O.o
Cosgar ParagonX 2353	Posted - 2013.07.09 01:06:00 - [14] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Cosgar wrote: Regular LAVs are a joke, it's the LLAV and physics when you run someone over that need work. But instead of nerfing it, I'd like to see them implement webifiers, so we can slow LAVs down to a crawl. (Please make it work on dropsuits too) No, we can't do that because then you are making tanks impossible to play outside of the redline and dropships...oh my god dont even get me started on a dropship that cant move in the air, I don't think it would have that much range. Maybe something along the lines of 40m where if you let infantry get that close, you deserve to die.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 233	Posted - 2013.07.09 01:07:00 - [15] - Quote Where are the MF speeders already?
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1023	Posted - 2013.07.09 01:35:00 - [16] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Cosgar wrote: Regular LAVs are a joke, it's the LLAV and physics when you run someone over that need work. But instead of nerfing it, I'd like to see them implement webifiers, so we can slow LAVs down to a crawl. (Please make it work on dropsuits too) No, we can't do that because then you are making tanks impossible to play outside of the redline and dropships...oh my god dont even get me started on a dropship that cant move in the air, This is coming.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. League of Infamy 617	Posted - 2013.07.09 14:15:00 - [17] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: semperfi1999 wrote: To respond to all other threads that are made about OP weapons....at this time the most OP weapon is infact the......... LAV Most OP weapon in the game. Free versions of this weapon can withstand every AV nade other than the proto packed AV nade. I have even seen the free versions withstand 1 shot from a protoswarm. Then if you spend money on them you can get them with 50% resistance.......which is crazy. It is without a doubt the most OP weapon in the game and it is FREE...you can run free suits with a free LAV and completely destroy the enemy and it takes high lvl weaponry just to hurt you. This needs to be balanced out. Until this is balanced all other weaponry pales in comparison to this OP monstrosity. You saw a militia LAV survive from being hit by 1980 damage (That's without prof or damage mods). I call bullshit. I have yet to find a militia LAV that could withstand more then one volley of my swarms. BTW two AV grenades and they're gone. Right and it makes sense that a free LAV can take 2 ADV packed nades before blowing up? Oh and yes I have seen a free LAV tank a proto volley....maybe 1 missile missed or something but I have seen it. Honestly I dont care if you believe me or not...free LAVs should should be an insta pop for a regular packed AV nade much less an adv packed nade.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. League of Infamy 617	Posted - 2013.07.09 14:32:00 - [18] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: ok u saw a mlt free lav survive a proto swarm? really most tank cant even survive a single proto swarm u stupid idiot!..... LOL you must see some pretty badly fit tanks as almost all tanks I see can take at least 2-3 proto swarm hits. And I love people who are not good at this game calling me names.....it just brings a smile to my face. So lets see here ppl that I faceroll constantly are calling me a noob..............right.
steadyhand amarr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 794	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:04:00 - [19] - Quote Semperfi got to remember new players don't no who the imperfects or internal error are ur pr department has been very quite
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 918	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:06:00 - [20] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: semperfi1999 wrote: To respond to all other threads that are made about OP weapons....at this time the most OP weapon is infact the......... LAV Most OP weapon in the game. Free versions of this weapon can withstand every AV nade other than the proto packed AV nade. I have even seen the free versions withstand 1 shot from a protoswarm. Then if you spend money on them you can get them with 50% resistance.......which is crazy. It is without a doubt the most OP weapon in the game and it is FREE...you can run free suits with a free LAV and completely destroy the enemy and it takes high lvl weaponry just to hurt you. This needs to be balanced out. Until this is balanced all other weaponry pales in comparison to this OP monstrosity. You saw a militia LAV survive from being hit by 1980 damage (That's without prof or damage mods). I call bullshit. I have yet to find a militia LAV that could withstand more then one volley of my swarms. BTW two AV grenades and they're gone. 3 av nades actually, the first two just take out the shields on the free lav

Bob Teller Red STar. EoN. 25	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:35:00 - [21] - Quote Standard lavs are no big deal,2 advance AVnades and they're gone.Logi lavs on the othe hands,,,need concerted effort from 2-3players to take down,or hope the guy cant drive and is gonna get stuck?
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 62	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:49:00 - [22] - Quote flux Vs explosive or shield counter weapons Vs armor counter weapons
Snaps Tremor Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 297	Posted - 2013.07.09 16:32:00 - [23] - Quote Near-immunity to infantry weapons on LAVs has to go. If a skanky militia LAV drives into a pack of infantry, it should be possible for them to concentrate the fire from whatever the hell they're carrying onto that one vehicle to make it pop over time. Not to the point where someone is going to be able to solo it with a non-AV weapon (especially when moving), but weak enough that one free car doesn't have an entire squad waiting patiently behind a rock while the new kid does doughnuts. LAVs should be recon, support and getting from A to B fast. Right now you get to B and half the time you're better off staying in the car because you're either completely safe (no AV nearby) or instantly dead (AV nearby). Where's the middle ground! (I acknowledge that in previous versions blasting the driver out the seat was the correct way to deal with cars, but with the new Vin Diesel physics it's hard enough to hit the car, never mind the driver.)
James-5955 Internal Error. League of Infamy 215	Posted - 2013.07.09 16:38:00 - [24] - Quote I'll just drop by here and say it again... 50%+ buff to HP of LAVs and giving people the ability to call in LAVs for free is just another terrible aspect of this game. If this, and a few other things were changed I'd probably get back into playing it.
Soldiersaint Reaper Galactic 73	Posted - 2013.07.09 16:38:00 - [25] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: mlt lavs need a serious nerf. only vehicle specialists should get to run people over. Disagree, they can be easily destroyed with 2 STD AV grenades. The problem is that LAVs in general require so little momentum to one-hit-kill infantry, sometimes just a small tap is enough. Also LAVs take damage from hitting walls and rocks, yet they don't get damaged from hitting armored and shielded dropsuits; LAVs need to take some damage based on the mass, HP, and speed in which they ram a dropsuit. It shouldn't be so high that hitting one player instantly blows up the LAV, but it should discourage that style of play. wait you do know lavs take damage when we ram suits right? or are you one of those players that plays infantry only? raming people is one of the best ways to kill them. its quick its clean and its smart.
Crow Splat DUST University Ivy League 36	Posted - 2013.07.09 16:43:00 - [26] - Quote I do think something is a little off with LAV's. I know a lot of you will say the 2 are incomparable but bear with me. I hit an armor tanked HAV with a plasma cannon and his shield disappears, A direct hit to a shield tanked LLAV takes less thand 10% of his shields. Wtf mate? I get than they have different boosters and all but they shouldnt be THAT different. There's no way an LAV should ever be able to tank 10x the damage an HAV can, no matter how many mods they have.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. League of Infamy 622	Posted - 2013.07.09 17:13:00 - [27] - Quote Bob Teller wrote: Standard lavs are no big deal,2 advance AVnades and they're gone.Logi lavs on the othe hands,,,need concerted effort from 2-3players to take down,or hope the guy cant drive and is gonna get stuck? I dont mind standard LAVs being able to survive 1 adv packed nade. The problem is even the worst fitted LAV will survive an adv packed. militia LAVs should instapop by an adv packed nade.....the standard if fitted correctly should survive 1 but not 2. Logi LAVs should be hard to kill but they are kinda rediculous with their 50% resistance to dmg. And steadhand....yea I know our PR dept has not been active...but still. People need to at least pretend like they looked up that players stats before calling them a noob....because honestly I am tired of dealing with kids who get on the forums act all hot and when I see them in game facestomping them is an understatement.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2279	Posted - 2013.07.09 17:16:00 - [28] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: mlt lavs need a serious nerf. only vehicle specialists should get to run people over. The free, unlimited ones need to be removed entirely as soon as the Speeders come out. I see no issue with having free versions of those, since the point of the current free LAVs is to let players move around more quickly. If you're going to allow that to be done for free, it should be with something like a Speeder that only holds one passenger.
negative49er The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 58	Posted - 2013.07.09 17:20:00 - [29] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: ok u saw a mlt free lav survive a proto swarm? really most tank cant even survive a single proto swarm u stupid idiot!..... This happen to me as well I had a proto swarm with three complex dmg mod and prof 2 and it lived or some of the missiles hit a wall or something
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 43	Posted - 2013.07.09 17:29:00 - [30] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: To respond to all other threads that are made about OP weapons....at this time the most OP weapon is infact the......... LAV Most OP weapon in the game. Free versions of this weapon can withstand every AV nade other than the proto packed AV nade. I have even seen the free versions withstand 1 shot from a protoswarm. Then if you spend money on them you can get them with 50% resistance.......which is crazy. It is without a doubt the most OP weapon in the game and it is FREE...you can run free suits with a free LAV and completely destroy the enemy and it takes high lvl weaponry just to hurt you. This needs to be balanced out. Until this is balanced all other weaponry pales in comparison to this OP monstrosity. "Free versions can withstand every AV nade other than proto packed AV nade." A damaged LAV dies from 1 below proto. Any proto one shots starter LAVs and below proto take 2 to kill, almost 1. You make it sound like they're invinsible when thats far from the truth.

semperfi1999 Internal Error. League of Infamy 623	Posted - 2013.07.09 18:19:00 - [31] - Quote hackerzilla wrote: semperfi1999 wrote: To respond to all other threads that are made about OP weapons....at this time the most OP weapon is infact the......... LAV Most OP weapon in the game. Free versions of this weapon can withstand every AV nade other than the proto packed AV nade. I have even seen the free versions withstand 1 shot from a protoswarm. Then if you spend money on them you can get them with 50% resistance.......which is crazy. It is without a doubt the most OP weapon in the game and it is FREE...you can run free suits with a free LAV and completely destroy the enemy and it takes high lvl weaponry just to hurt you. This needs to be balanced out. Until this is balanced all other weaponry pales in comparison to this OP monstrosity. "Free versions can withstand every AV nade other than proto packed AV nade." A damaged LAV dies from 1 below proto. Any proto one shots starter LAVs and below proto take 2 to kill, almost 1. You make it sound like they're invinsible when thats far from the truth. Actually proto regular nade does not insta pop a free LAV (but for sake of the arguments lets say it does). Its still a freakin PROTO nade to kill a FREE LAV...you know the LAVs that are supposed to be rolling piles of poop....yea they can take everything but a proto nade and survive. Yes if the vehicle is dmgs an adv packed might insta pop it...but thats if its dmged.....why is this so hard to understand. Free LAVs should be insta popped by regular packed nades much less adv packed nades. Free LAVs are there just to get you from point A to B and if you try to use them to run ppl over you should die to anyone who has anything that is AV. Instead they dont they are better than the standard LAVs because they are free and can take about the same amount of dmg. Destroying a free LAV should be a mere afterthought for someone who has put SP into AV....instead free LAVs are extremely dangerous......and Logi LAVs are even more so. That beind said I am pretty positive that the normal proto AV nade does not insta pop the free LAVs because generally speaking the packed AV nades does = dmg as the next lvl standard AV nade. IE Packed AV nade does = dmg as the adv standard nade....etc (this is how its been for a long time maybe it changed with the last update I honestly didnt check recently).


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