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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3698
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:04:00 -
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Nades: Why do ppl have THREE nades in this game when normally a shooter would give u ONE lethal nade and TWO non lethal nades if u choose either of them.
DUST is the only shooter ive played that lets u have THREE lethal nades everytime u spawn to spam dealing 600 dmg and prob one of the biggest blast radius ive seen yet. Lower nades to ONE ppl carry hives anyway to replenish they dont need THREE + hives to replenish them.
Flaylocks......lol........lower splash nuff said Reason why ppl call this game Explosions 514 atm is because u give ppl too many damn cheap stupid weapons to spam in high quantities and it takes the skill out a game and FPS games are primarily skill based. Even cod dont let u spawn with 3 semtex or frags
MDs are fine imo, they are a primary weapon and should be somewhat useful
*take a breather that was some heavy logic dropped..................................................ok lets go again*
Vehicle play, did yall even read my 4 part tank series? cuz if im i wont be even attempting anymore feedback. I would HONESTLY like to know WHY u havent buffed shield hardeners yet? 10 sec active time? really? shield already have lower EHP and weaker reps, higher mobility and passive regen being their advantages but hardeners are standard for almost any armor fit and shield fit WOULD benefit from actually not being a joke in rail fights if their hardeners could of lasted like 15-20 secs.
Not asking for 60 like armor cuz shields arent brawlers but 15-20 active time gives a shield tanker the chance to peek fire and trade a couple back off regen and with their supposed better mobility they can do what tankers in bf3 like to call "pillaring" alot easier which is where u poke out of cover only exposing what u need to fire off then back into cover quickly....dont think their speed can allow them to do that effectively atm and speed suppose to be one of their strengths
Just would like a logical reasoning in this thread PLEASE for why shield hardeners are still 10sec active time.
LAVs..............******* LAVs.........should not take 4 hits from a proto compressed rail to die.....thats bs. Caldari logi lavs an logi lavs in general shouldnt take more than 2 hits....gotta keep in mind these vehicles still have hardeners and reps to activate 3-4 base hits with no mods running is kinda much tbqh, nerf/balance it
Reg lavs are fine one hit puts them in burn with nothing left really its the logi lavs that are a problem atm. Also this been mentioned before if u roadkill ur lav takes dmg = to the HP of the suit he ran over.
PS: commando suit might need a PG buff still building a suit atm but will get back to that later in another thread...hopefully before 2015!
If u made it this far in reading congrats, i kno logic and dust dont mix too well so congrats on the few that survived this logic bomb thread! |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
278
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:10:00 -
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^ and this is how you write a rant thread. Point out 3 obviously acknowledged things that devs are already aware, add some bad spelling, grammar and curse words and lots of dots, and you have yourself bad example :D |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
487
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:14:00 -
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Mass Effect. Nice grenades. Better weapons as well. Not ME2.
Why would anyone want one good grenade and two wussie wonder bread versions? Seems silly to me. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3700
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:18:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:^ and this is how you write a rant thread. Point out 3 obviously acknowledged things that devs are already aware, add some bad spelling, grammar and curse words and lots of dots, and you have yourself bad example :D
definition of troll ^ if they know so much about it why has shield hardeners not been buffed since it was put in? smh |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2610
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:18:00 -
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Yeaaaa.... i made a thread in General Discussion about 3 nades... was basically told to HTFU cuz apparently having 3 nades doing 600 dmg each (+ bonus to armor) is fine
Skill to kill has dropped significantly. There's hardly a reason to be skillful now since the flavor of the month in DUST right now is explosions.
LAV's... lol LAV's... another reason skill to kill has dropped. Why even shoot a weapon when you can drive around basically being in 'God Mode' running people over.
People that defend these 2 things above, like the way the game is atm. Probably either cuz they run Cal Logi, or have their LAV skills maxed out...or both.
Don't think I even need to talk about Flaylock pistols... but i'll give it a mention... CCP --- > Flaylock Pistols... have a look at them.
I know I'm not adding to Mavado's points, I'm just adding my opinions about them.
There's no skill needed to kill people now CCP. Spam the FoTM...that's all that's needed at this point.
Wonder what's gonna be the new FoTM when / if these things get fixed. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2611
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:19:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:^ and this is how you write a rant thread. Point out 3 obviously acknowledged things that devs are already aware, add some bad spelling, grammar and curse words and lots of dots, and you have yourself bad example :D
devs are aware? hahahahahaaha
good one |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3704
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:23:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Aoena Rays wrote:^ and this is how you write a rant thread. Point out 3 obviously acknowledged things that devs are already aware, add some bad spelling, grammar and curse words and lots of dots, and you have yourself bad example :D devs are aware? hahahahahaaha good one
yea devs are aware! how dare u assume devs arent! they just troll us asking for feedback so they can do the opposite |
Jarlaxle Xorlarrin
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
94
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:24:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:^ and this is how you write a rant thread. Point out 3 obviously acknowledged things that devs are already aware, add some bad spelling, grammar and curse words and lots of dots, and you have yourself bad example :D
They acknowledged bad frame rate, terrible lag, and suit/vehicle imbalance, but its taken the devs over a year to fix only two of those three things. Reminding them (the devs) constantly is obviously a must to even hope to have something done about it within a year's time. |
Head xXCaseXx
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:06:00 -
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Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
280
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:21:00 -
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Jarlaxle Xorlarrin wrote:Aoena Rays wrote:^ and this is how you write a rant thread. Point out 3 obviously acknowledged things that devs are already aware, add some bad spelling, grammar and curse words and lots of dots, and you have yourself bad example :D They acknowledged bad frame rate, terrible lag, and suit/vehicle imbalance, but its taken the devs over a year to fix only two of those three things. Reminding them (the devs) constantly is obviously a must to even hope to have something done about it within a year's time. This is clear rant post summing up 3 problems with the game. No constructive stuff at all with bad grammar and ................................ a lot of this. |
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Bendtner92
Internal Error. League of Infamy
671
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:31:00 -
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If CCP knew how big a problem these things are they should've done something about it in 1.2. At least some of the things.
Flaylock has been OP ever since Uprising dropped, yet nothing has been done about them yet? How in the world does it take months to at least not make nearly as OP as it is now. I'm not asking for perfect balance, but they should've at least made it less OP ASAP, they didn't.
Same with the awful LAV spam. It was obvious right after that HP buff CCP gave, yet they haven't done anything about it yet.
That we have to endure incredibly OP stuff for months is one of the worst things about CCP (I'm looking at you missiles!). Such incredibly OP stuff should not last more than a few weeks, or a month top.
+1 Mavado. |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
8
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:34:00 -
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Flays are just too much, it's a sidearm dammit people are running around with it like its going out of style, I'll admit I could beat a heavy in a head on firefight with an SMG back in the beta but still it doesn't make sense to carry a weapon as a sidearm that can do more damage than the actual grenade launcher of the game, it has the splash damage and radius of a damn forge gun. I'm usually not one to nit pick and say buff this and nerf that but it makes no sense that that little peashooter should deal more damage than a bigger explosive gun with a wider barrel, and faster. |
XxGhazbaranxX
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
100
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:35:00 -
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This is not battlefield my friend, your tainted; hammered into one vision of what an FPS is. Explosions you say? All I see are geks and duvolles on the kill feeds mostly. Now it been getting a bit more balanced. An unnerf to the laser rifle, a complete overhaul on the plasma cannon and we will see a big difference on the battlefield. Also keep in mind that the flaylock is usually used at proto level. The feed more than not says Core flalock pistol, meaning they spent 600k sp in it and more than that on specs. Please play dust with an open mind and not by com pairing it to every other AAA shooter with hundreds of devs. Dust is breaking with preconception about what an FPS is and making a much more versatile game the the old point and shoot games. This is a strategy game, if your enemy has grenades shoot him from a range his grenades don't hit, god knows assault rifles are more than up to the challenge and so is almost any other weapon. A mass driver pelting rounds at a corner, gtfo it his corner, round about and shoot him from behind. LAV's getting you down train proximity explosives to advanced, slap on strd and advanced explosives on the road and stand on it in a militia suit and they will die. Getting proto stomped put remote explosives and wait till someone passes through them and hurt their wallet. There are a lot of ways to counter what you say is wrong with the game, you just have to think outside the box. |
Draka Marintu
TeamPlayers EoN.
50
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:27:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This is not battlefield my friend, your tainted; hammered into one vision of what an FPS is. Explosions you say? All I see are geks and duvolles on the kill feeds mostly. Now it been getting a bit more balanced. An unnerf to the laser rifle, a complete overhaul on the plasma cannon and we will see a big difference on the battlefield. Also keep in mind that the flaylock is usually used at proto level. The feed more than not says Core flalock pistol, meaning they spent 600k sp in it and more than that on specs. Please play dust with an open mind and not by com pairing it to every other AAA shooter with hundreds of devs. Dust is breaking with preconception about what an FPS is and making a much more versatile game the the old point and shoot games. This is a strategy game, if your enemy has grenades shoot him from a range his grenades don't hit, god knows assault rifles are more than up to the challenge and so is almost any other weapon. A mass driver pelting rounds at a corner, gtfo it his corner, round about and shoot him from behind. LAV's getting you down train proximity explosives to advanced, slap on strd and advanced explosives on the road and stand on it in a militia suit and they will die. Getting proto stomped put remote explosives and wait till someone passes through them and hurt their wallet. There are a lot of ways to counter what you say is wrong with the game, you just have to think outside the box.
The point Mac is trying to make is these things are seriously broken. A sidearm that's more effective than most primary's makes little to no sense and when it's harder to kill an lav with av than it is a tank come on dude. It has nothing to do with being tainted it has to do with being broken
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The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
520
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:36:00 -
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Logic?...We don't need no stinking logic. |
Jarlaxle Xorlarrin
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
95
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:41:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:Jarlaxle Xorlarrin wrote:Aoena Rays wrote:^ and this is how you write a rant thread. Point out 3 obviously acknowledged things that devs are already aware, add some bad spelling, grammar and curse words and lots of dots, and you have yourself bad example :D They acknowledged bad frame rate, terrible lag, and suit/vehicle imbalance, but its taken the devs over a year to fix only two of those three things. Reminding them (the devs) constantly is obviously a must to even hope to have something done about it within a year's time. This is clear rant post summing up 3 problems with the game. No constructive stuff at all with bad grammar and ................................ a lot of this.
How is it not constructive? He listed 3 problems. He then gave a short summary on why he thinks that the weapons are OP, then stated a way to fix them.
Also, to be fair to Numbz (or Mavado... w/e the Hell you know him by) he has posted very good ideas and suggestions that were all very constructive, but very very few were listened too, so now he is upset. I'd rage too if I wasted my time trying to make the game better, but all of my suggestions fell on deaf ears. |
Avinash Decker
BetaMax. CRONOS.
52
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Posted - 2013.07.08 09:13:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:This is not battlefield my friend, your tainted; hammered into one vision of what an FPS is. Explosions you say? All I see are geks and duvolles on the kill feeds mostly. Now it been getting a bit more balanced. An unnerf to the laser rifle, a complete overhaul on the plasma cannon and we will see a big difference on the battlefield. Also keep in mind that the flaylock is usually used at proto level. The feed more than not says Core flalock pistol, meaning they spent 600k sp in it and more than that on specs. Please play dust with an open mind and not by com pairing it to every other AAA shooter with hundreds of devs. Dust is breaking with preconception about what an FPS is and making a much more versatile game the the old point and shoot games. This is a strategy game, if your enemy has grenades shoot him from a range his grenades don't hit, god knows assault rifles are more than up to the challenge and so is almost any other weapon. A mass driver pelting rounds at a corner, gtfo it his corner, round about and shoot him from behind. LAV's getting you down train proximity explosives to advanced, slap on strd and advanced explosives on the road and stand on it in a militia suit and they will die. Getting proto stomped put remote explosives and wait till someone passes through them and hurt their wallet. There are a lot of ways to counter what you say is wrong with the game, you just have to think outside the box.
Then every fps is a strategy game. None of this "strategies" aren't going to fix the glaring issues with the balancing. But the op has stated what others has been saying for awhile. Although I do not know why they hadn't announced any plans of fixing some of the weapons. |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
50
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Posted - 2013.07.08 13:02:00 -
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Why do you even bother, don't you know this is supposed to be a turn based FPS, nerf skill and buff tab target!!! |
Grezkev
Red STar. EoN.
290
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:10:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:Jarlaxle Xorlarrin wrote:Aoena Rays wrote:^ and this is how you write a rant thread. Point out 3 obviously acknowledged things that devs are already aware, add some bad spelling, grammar and curse words and lots of dots, and you have yourself bad example :D They acknowledged bad frame rate, terrible lag, and suit/vehicle imbalance, but its taken the devs over a year to fix only two of those three things. Reminding them (the devs) constantly is obviously a must to even hope to have something done about it within a year's time. This is clear rant post summing up 3 problems with the game. No constructive stuff at all with bad grammar and ................................ a lot of this.
con-+struc-+tive /k+Ön-êstr+Öktiv/ Adjective
Serving a useful purpose; tending to build up. Derived by inference; implied by operation of law; not obvious or explicit.
Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one
Not only did Mav explain the problems, he suggested realistic (and of course logical) solutions to those problems. That is the very definition of "constructive criticism" and is the antithesis of a "rant":
rant /rant/ Verb Speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
560
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:15:00 -
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If this is "logic" than the term has officially lost its meaning. |
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