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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1842
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:59:00 -
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Factional Warfare should reward LP. Some things: Losing battles for one side reduces the payout of LP you get from that side, up to a maximum of -75%
Winning battles for one side increases the payout of LP you get from that side, up to a maximum of +75%
If you win a battle for lets say, the Gallente, then fighting for the Caldari gives you reduced LP payout, and vice versa, up to -75%
You don't get ISK in a FW match, just LP(?)
So fighting for one side is more lucrative, but you have to actually win for it to be more lucrative.
Now, what will we do with that LP? Well, I was thinking, what would make players REALLY want to play FW?
And then I was thinking: "Hmm, EVE has factional gear, why not Dust?" Factional Gear = Better than prototype, worse than officer
By playing around, let's say, 10 matches? You get enough LP to buy a set of Factional Gear. (Set being 10 items)
To buy that set, you also need ISK. I was thinking around 2 million, that puts the price of that gear at 200,000 ISK a pop. (That's not a weapon or suit, that's just the gear like shield extenders or damage modifiers) So assuming you get 200,000 ISK a match, that will require you to play 30 matches (20 for ISK, 10 for LP) to get 10 of a specific factional item.
Now, what about weapons and suits? That will cost you double everything, to get 5 of those. 800k a pop, and 20 FW matches. |

Noc Tempre
Internal Error. League of Infamy
2074
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:14:00 -
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More grind. What's not to like? |

Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1843
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:15:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:More grind. What's not to like? This is very powerful gear. It's between prototype and officer gear. Have you ever tried the balac?
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Gaelon Thrace
DUST University Ivy League
21
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:24:00 -
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"Well, you're loyal, you've fought for our side in every match you've joined, and you usually top the scoreboard, but this time the rest of your team was a bunch of lazy slobs and you lost the match so we're only giving you a quarter of the usual loyalty points. Better luck next time." Or you could gain loyalty points for being loyal and earn them based on how consistently you fight for one side to the exclusion of the other. Completely replacing the ISK reward with LP is just insane. You might as well edit your post and just remove that completely. |

darkiller240
INGLORIOUS-INQUISITION
37
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:27:00 -
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I think isk should be rewarded enyway |

Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1844
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:30:00 -
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Gaelon Thrace wrote:"Well, you're loyal, you've fought for our side in every match you've joined, and you usually top the scoreboard, but this time the rest of your team was a bunch of lazy slobs and you lost the match so we're only giving you a quarter of the usual loyalty points. Better luck next time." Or you could gain loyalty points for being loyal and earn them based on how consistently you fight for one side to the exclusion of the other. Completely replacing the ISK reward with LP is just insane. You might as well edit your post and just remove that completely. I added a (?) since I wasn't sure if to do that. |

Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
43
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:41:00 -
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Some items don't require ISK from the LPS,like the hulls. Make the hulls not require ISK. I would love that. Get several Federation Maddy's and go complete apeshit in PC lol
Peace, Aizen  |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
318
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:26:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Factional Warfare should reward LP. Some things:
Losing battles for one side reduces the payout of LP you get from that side, up to a maximum of -75%
Winning battles for one side increases the payout of LP you get from that side, up to a maximum of +75%
If you win a battle for lets say, the Gallente, then fighting for the Caldari gives you reduced LP payout, and vice versa, up to -75%
You don't get ISK in a FW match, just LP(?)
So fighting for one side is more lucrative, but you have to actually win for it to be more lucrative.
Now, what will we do with that LP? Well, I was thinking, what would make players REALLY want to play FW?
And then I was thinking: "Hmm, EVE has factional gear, why not Dust?" Factional Gear = Better than prototype, worse than officer
By playing around, let's say, 10 matches? You get enough LP to buy a set of Factional Gear. (Set being 10 items)
To buy that set, you also need ISK. I was thinking around 2 million, that puts the price of that gear at 200,000 ISK a pop. (That's not a weapon or suit, that's just the gear like shield extenders or damage modifiers) So assuming you get 200,000 ISK a match, that will require you to play 30 matches (20 for ISK, 10 for LP) to get 10 of a specific factional item.
Now, what about weapons and suits? That will cost you double everything, to get 5 of those. 800k a pop, and 20 FW matches.
I would also limit each corporation to fighting for one faction. While we are merc no empire would hire on staff that are likely to go out and fight for the competition the next time a contract shows up.
Locking corporations into faction groups and LP stores actively encourages RP, as well as generating loyalty for that corps chosen factions....however im not say your shouldn't be able to defect to another faction just that LP should only be accrued, and LP stores should only be accessible one factions at a time. |

Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
45
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Factional Warfare should reward LP. Some things:
Losing battles for one side reduces the payout of LP you get from that side, up to a maximum of -75%
Winning battles for one side increases the payout of LP you get from that side, up to a maximum of +75%
If you win a battle for lets say, the Gallente, then fighting for the Caldari gives you reduced LP payout, and vice versa, up to -75%
You don't get ISK in a FW match, just LP(?)
So fighting for one side is more lucrative, but you have to actually win for it to be more lucrative.
Now, what will we do with that LP? Well, I was thinking, what would make players REALLY want to play FW?
And then I was thinking: "Hmm, EVE has factional gear, why not Dust?" Factional Gear = Better than prototype, worse than officer
By playing around, let's say, 10 matches? You get enough LP to buy a set of Factional Gear. (Set being 10 items)
To buy that set, you also need ISK. I was thinking around 2 million, that puts the price of that gear at 200,000 ISK a pop. (That's not a weapon or suit, that's just the gear like shield extenders or damage modifiers) So assuming you get 200,000 ISK a match, that will require you to play 30 matches (20 for ISK, 10 for LP) to get 10 of a specific factional item.
Now, what about weapons and suits? That will cost you double everything, to get 5 of those. 800k a pop, and 20 FW matches. I would also limit each corporation to fighting for one faction. While we are merc no empire would hire on staff that are likely to go out and fight for the competition the next time a contract shows up. Locking corporations into faction groups and LP stores actively encourages RP, as well as generating loyalty for that corps chosen factions....however im not say your shouldn't be able to defect to another faction just that LP should only be accrued, and LP stores should only be accessible one factions at a time. I work for whoever the **** I feel like (which is Most of the time Gallente and Winmatar, but sometimes Amarr. **** Caldari). Don't try and limit me dammit!
Peace, Aizen  |
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