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Berserker007
Internal Error. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:23:00 -
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i believe in one of the last dev blogs, or dev posts somewhere, it was mentioned that they would be adding an exit option back to the character selection screen (like had in MAG). With that occurring now, id like to see us as a community "petition" CCP, to allow for passive SP on all characters per account once again.
This function would allow for an overall more fun factor. ATM if you want that you need a totally different psn account. I'm not sure their reasoning as to why they removed this option; but i'd like to see it reinstated as would allow more gameplay variety w/o making the game feel like even more of a grind to make your main have that ability. This is also a good way for people to test weapons w/o having to fully waste SP on their main account.
If CCP would reinstate this option, first thing would be to add passive SP to all B & C slot character for the time they have been around (ex: if one is around for 4 months, give him 4 months worth of passive SP).
So yeah, like to see if others would like this to happen, as it'd allow us all to get out of our monotonous standardized gameplay for a bit |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
27
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:26:00 -
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+1 I totally agree |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
239
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:28:00 -
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The logout option is already here. I think it's under system in your neocom.
Anyway, I doubt this would happen. I don't think I'd mind seeing it happen, but I doubt it. But plus 1 for the MAG reference. |
GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate
16
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:30:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:i believe in one of the last dev blogs, or dev posts somewhere, it was mentioned that they would be adding an exit option back to the character selection screen (like had in MAG). With that occurring now, id like to see us as a community "petition" CCP, to allow for passive SP on all characters per account once again.
This function would allow for an overall more fun factor. ATM if you want that you need a totally different psn account. I'm not sure their reasoning as to why they removed this option; but i'd like to see it reinstated as would allow more gameplay variety w/o making the game feel like even more of a grind to make your main have that ability. This is also a good way for people to test weapons w/o having to fully waste SP on their main account.
If CCP would reinstate this option, first thing would be to add passive SP to all B & C slot character for the time they have been around (ex: if one is around for 4 months, give him 4 months worth of passive SP).
So yeah, like to see if others would like this to happen, as it'd allow us all to get out of our monotonous standardized gameplay for a bit
Good idea but this part "If CCP would reinstate this option, first thing would be to add passive SP to all B & C slot character for the time they have been around (ex: if one is around for 4 months, give him 4 months worth of passive SP). "
Is stupid. yea it sucks you cant get the sp because the passive wasn't on them but that means ill have 2 players with 7mill SP total and my main player with his total sp. This is just another way to suck out sp for no work. |
Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:34:00 -
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Mmm. It does seem like there's little reason not to seeing as you can just do alts with passive via other PSN accounts. You can already get passive SP on all alts if you just jump that tiny hoop. |
Berserker007
Internal Error. League of Infamy
335
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:36:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:Berserker007 wrote:i believe in one of the last dev blogs, or dev posts somewhere, it was mentioned that they would be adding an exit option back to the character selection screen (like had in MAG). With that occurring now, id like to see us as a community "petition" CCP, to allow for passive SP on all characters per account once again.
This function would allow for an overall more fun factor. ATM if you want that you need a totally different psn account. I'm not sure their reasoning as to why they removed this option; but i'd like to see it reinstated as would allow more gameplay variety w/o making the game feel like even more of a grind to make your main have that ability. This is also a good way for people to test weapons w/o having to fully waste SP on their main account.
If CCP would reinstate this option, first thing would be to add passive SP to all B & C slot character for the time they have been around (ex: if one is around for 4 months, give him 4 months worth of passive SP).
So yeah, like to see if others would like this to happen, as it'd allow us all to get out of our monotonous standardized gameplay for a bit Good idea but this part "If CCP would reinstate this option, first thing would be to add passive SP to all B & C slot character for the time they have been around (ex: if one is around for 4 months, give him 4 months worth of passive SP). " Is stupid. yea it sucks you cant get the sp because the passive wasn't on them but that means ill have 2 players with 7mill SP total and my main player. This is just another way to suck out sp for no work.
not gana lie, having that extra SP would be nice; but figure IF we ever get new content that keeps people around; that SP will allow for INSTANT feedback & enjoyment, which this game sorely needs. Dust has become a 100% grind (w/o a fun factor), so something needs to help in that.
So it isn't all just for us, but to allow us to check if weapons are broken or whatnot. As figure if we didn't start Uprising w/ all that SP, CCP may not of found out that the TAR would so broken till now, then figure another 2-3 weeks to fix it.
Plus this gives people immediate new ways to play the game. I've never really been a tanker in the 14months i've been playing; i only have 1.1M SP on m tank alt; so getting say 7M SP will let me enjoy and try that play style out more; and being AV, allow me to see both sides of the coin (or visa versa if only been a tanker). That or let me try and snipe as lst time i tried was back in replication. There is just so many thnigs that extra SP given would all us to do to keep people playing more if they can change how they are playing after a few hours. This may also help in ease the respec talks of if massive new content is added people will want respecs; as adding lots of things can be massively game changing |
Berserker007
Internal Error. League of Infamy
335
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:37:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:Mmm. It does seem like there's little reason not to seeing as you can just do alts with passive via other PSN accounts. You can already get passive SP on all alts if you just jump that tiny hoop.
that is true; but say for people who dont have alt accounts, or want the hassle to go on them where they dont have a friends list; or contact on dust; or AUR, this works. As i've had my B & C slot since E3 ; i've never used them, but i had them just in case |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
609
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:47:00 -
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No reason every character shouldn't have passive sp |
Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:54:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:Poplo Furuya wrote:Mmm. It does seem like there's little reason not to seeing as you can just do alts with passive via other PSN accounts. You can already get passive SP on all alts if you just jump that tiny hoop. that is true; but say for people who dont have alt accounts, or want the hassle to go on them where they dont have a friends list; or contact on dust; or AUR, this works. As i've had my B & C slot since E3 ; i've never used them, but i had them just in case Aye, was agreeing with you. Since effectively it can already be done might as well make it less finnicky, more accessible. Make it convenient and natural for people rather than a hassle. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
789
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:55:00 -
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Inb4 "But how will they sell boosters" |
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Michael Arck
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
90
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:55:00 -
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And we want to fuss about balancing in game? Haha. No. Bad idea. Just as a whole I think having three characters with passive SP will somehow spell trouble. Of course you would say, Mike wth, it would benefit you. Still, it just seems bad business. |
GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate
17
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:55:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:Berserker007 wrote:i believe in one of the last dev blogs, or dev posts somewhere, it was mentioned that they would be adding an exit option back to the character selection screen (like had in MAG). With that occurring now, id like to see us as a community "petition" CCP, to allow for passive SP on all characters per account once again.
This function would allow for an overall more fun factor. ATM if you want that you need a totally different psn account. I'm not sure their reasoning as to why they removed this option; but i'd like to see it reinstated as would allow more gameplay variety w/o making the game feel like even more of a grind to make your main have that ability. This is also a good way for people to test weapons w/o having to fully waste SP on their main account.
If CCP would reinstate this option, first thing would be to add passive SP to all B & C slot character for the time they have been around (ex: if one is around for 4 months, give him 4 months worth of passive SP).
So yeah, like to see if others would like this to happen, as it'd allow us all to get out of our monotonous standardized gameplay for a bit Good idea but this part "If CCP would reinstate this option, first thing would be to add passive SP to all B & C slot character for the time they have been around (ex: if one is around for 4 months, give him 4 months worth of passive SP). " Is stupid. yea it sucks you cant get the sp because the passive wasn't on them but that means ill have 2 players with 7mill SP total and my main player. This is just another way to suck out sp for no work. not gana lie, having that extra SP would be nice; but figure IF we ever get new content that keeps people around; that SP will allow for INSTANT feedback & enjoyment, which this game sorely needs. Dust has become a 100% grind (w/o a fun factor), so something needs to help in that. So it isn't all just for us, but to allow us to check if weapons are broken or whatnot. As figure if we didn't start Uprising w/ all that SP, CCP may not of found out that the TAR would so broken till now, then figure another 2-3 weeks to fix it. Plus this gives people immediate new ways to play the game. I've never really been a tanker in the 14months i've been playing; i only have 1.1M SP on m tank alt; so getting say 7M SP will let me enjoy and try that play style out more; and being AV, allow me to see both sides of the coin (or visa versa if only been a tanker). That or let me try and snipe as lst time i tried was back in replication. There is just so many thnigs that extra SP given would all us to do to keep people playing more if they can change how they are playing after a few hours. This may also help in ease the respec talks of if massive new content is added people will want respecs; as adding lots of things can be massively game changing
True i would use them as a test dummy :) approve but at the same time CCP will lose money so this wont push. You didnt buy the boosters to get that sp. Have to have views from everyone. |
Tupni
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:25:00 -
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It's a disadvantage to newer players not to have passive SP on all characters and an inconvenience for everyone else. For newbs, it means when they spend their hard earned SP on an active scanner or a laser rifle because both of those things sound cool, but it turns out it doesn't suit them at all and no chance at a re-spec, they fight in higher SP rank matches with less practically applied SP, thwarting their K/D W/L ratios and potentially causing an aversion to the game. So by the time they realize their mistakes and what they should have been doing the whole time, their only recourse is to either abandon their primary for a new character putting them back at square one, trying to keep on against increasingly difficult enemies, invest then spend in the virtual AUR micro currency to compensate on an already tarnished character, or quit the game. Passive SP on secondary characters at least doesn't set them so far back that there is little hope for recovery for such a blunder.
For veterans, why would they even bother with skilling up an account so far bellow their current one? Ultimately the starting SP doesn't make up for the overlap of skills their main already has, so any specialty or AUR enhancement is better wrapped into their main that is more capable of gaining SP anyway.
So really, either the extra, and I specify extra as in unnecessary, accounts need some (even slight, 50% of main passive skilling) boost or to be simply removed from the game as worthless appendages.
Given that the ability to internally log out has been finally manifest, I feel like the developers are somewhat interested in maintaining multiple characters as an option. So we come back to, please reinstate all character Passive SP; that'd be great. |
Ynned Ivanova
Decrepid Old Sods
14
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:38:00 -
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Doubtful, simply because you can have passive on all, as long as you buy the boosters, why would they want to lose the revenue. |
Crow Splat
DUST University Ivy League
30
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:52:00 -
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The only potential problem I see with passive sp for all characters would be if they allow us to sell characters like we can on eve.
If I had two characters just sitting around collecting sp then it would be like having a printing press just sitting around printing money. It may only be 10 bucks a day but I don't have to work to earn it and it adds up after a while. This is bad for an economy.. And assuming we WILL be able to sell characters at some point, ccp appears to be changing eve to make passive isk making more difficult. I would think the same principle would apply to dust.
But if we won't ever have a character market than by all means.. |
Nyusto Clegli
S.e.V.e.N.
16
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Posted - 2013.07.07 03:22:00 -
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from what I understand eve players can also only have one character with passive SP in less they pay the price for a second account so I doubt seeing this happen |
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