DUST Search - [Suggestion] No WP gain behind your red line

Captain Wontubulous wrote:

Kinky Burrito wrote:

Captain Wontubulous wrote:

So that teams that get red lined are even more screwed than they already are?

If half of them weren't trying to snipe from there, they probably wouldn't get red lined.

I think what you mean to say is "remove snipers". Why would it ever make sense to have snipers in the frontlines, or even the midline of battle? Has any sniper in history ever not stayed where he won't be killed? That's ridiculous. I do agree that the terrible snipers who get 2-3 kills in an entire game and sit behind the redline are a detriment to their team but when I get 20 kills on an objective from the redline I'm more useful than half my team. Also snipers have to work hard to get a helpful amount of WP anyway. 20 kills is only 1000 wp. Any decent (not even great) logi bro can get 1000 wp. Only high tier snipers seem to be able to pull that off. If you're getting angry at your own team sitting in the redline and not the other, then start squadding so you have a functioning team. That's what squad based FPS is all about.

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Kinky Burrito A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 58	Posted - 2013.07.06 19:59:00 - [1] - Quote Make it happen, please?
Captain Wontubulous Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 16	Posted - 2013.07.06 20:00:00 - [2] - Quote So that teams that get red lined are even more screwed than they already are?
Kinky Burrito A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 59	Posted - 2013.07.06 20:50:00 - [3] - Quote Captain Wontubulous wrote: So that teams that get red lined are even more screwed than they already are? If half of them weren't trying to snipe from there, they probably wouldn't get red lined.
Cosgar ParagonX 2232	Posted - 2013.07.06 21:01:00 - [4] - Quote Kinky Burrito wrote: If half of them weren't trying to snipe from there, they probably wouldn't get red lined. QFT Also, there should be a 5 min time limit after all points are held by a team. If the enemy team can't claim at least one point, they automatically lose the battle to speed things along.
Emerald Bellerophon Nenikekamen 24	Posted - 2013.07.06 21:11:00 - [5] - Quote It might help first to have some way of seeing where your own team's redline is...
loumanchew Ametat Security Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2013.07.06 21:57:00 - [6] - Quote That could actually help the player base. I would also add the MCC as considered in the redline regardless of position on the battlefield. No isk, no SP, awwww. That and removing damage from taxi bumps and people might actually use the turrets.
Captain Wontubulous Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 19	Posted - 2013.07.06 22:05:00 - [7] - Quote Kinky Burrito wrote: Captain Wontubulous wrote: So that teams that get red lined are even more screwed than they already are? If half of them weren't trying to snipe from there, they probably wouldn't get red lined. I think what you mean to say is "remove snipers". Why would it ever make sense to have snipers in the frontlines, or even the midline of battle? Has any sniper in history ever not stayed where he won't be killed? That's ridiculous. I do agree that the terrible snipers who get 2-3 kills in an entire game and sit behind the redline are a detriment to their team but when I get 20 kills on an objective from the redline I'm more useful than half my team. Also snipers have to work hard to get a helpful amount of WP anyway. 20 kills is only 1000 wp. Any decent (not even great) logi bro can get 1000 wp. Only high tier snipers seem to be able to pull that off. If you're getting angry at your own team sitting in the redline and not the other, then start squadding so you have a functioning team. That's what squad based FPS is all about.
Green Living 0uter.Heaven 498	Posted - 2013.07.06 22:09:00 - [8] - Quote Captain Wontubulous wrote: Kinky Burrito wrote: Captain Wontubulous wrote: So that teams that get red lined are even more screwed than they already are? If half of them weren't trying to snipe from there, they probably wouldn't get red lined. I think what you mean to say is "remove snipers". Why would it ever make sense to have snipers in the frontlines, or even the midline of battle? Has any sniper in history ever not stayed where he won't be killed? That's ridiculous. I do agree that the terrible snipers who get 2-3 kills in an entire game and sit behind the redline are a detriment to their team but when I get 20 kills on an objective from the redline I'm more useful than half my team. Also snipers have to work hard to get a helpful amount of WP anyway. 20 kills is only 1000 wp. Any decent (not even great) logi bro can get 1000 wp. Only high tier snipers seem to be able to pull that off. If you're getting angry at your own team sitting in the redline and not the other, then start squadding so you have a functioning team. That's what squad based FPS is all about. The more snipers on a team, the higher the chance you're going to lose. There is a reason why you rarely ever see a sniper in a PC battle, because they are worthless. Well, unless it's Gem Cutter. That dude is an absolute terror with the sniper rifle.
Cosgar ParagonX 2240	Posted - 2013.07.06 22:11:00 - [9] - Quote Captain Wontubulous wrote: Kinky Burrito wrote: Captain Wontubulous wrote: So that teams that get red lined are even more screwed than they already are? If half of them weren't trying to snipe from there, they probably wouldn't get red lined. I think what you mean to say is "remove snipers". Why would it ever make sense to have snipers in the frontlines, or even the midline of battle? Has any sniper in history ever not stayed where he won't be killed? That's ridiculous. I do agree that the terrible snipers who get 2-3 kills in an entire game and sit behind the redline are a detriment to their team but when I get 20 kills on an objective from the redline I'm more useful than half my team. Also snipers have to work hard to get a helpful amount of WP anyway. 20 kills is only 1000 wp. Any decent (not even great) logi bro can get 1000 wp. Only high tier snipers seem to be able to pull that off. If you're getting angry at your own team sitting in the redline and not the other, then start squadding so you have a functioning team. That's what squad based FPS is all about. The difference between redline sniping in earlier builds, was that it was viable because of sharpshooter. There are plenty of high places on a map to snipe from that aren't in proximity of an MCC where they can call out enemy routes and defend objectives.


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