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oso tiburon
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:33:00 -
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Bruce Break wrote:oso tiburon wrote:Bruce Break wrote:Enforcer Tank is a joke . First move malus . from what ? i have no Bonus but Malus . 2 . Rocket Support . is nice but Rocket with 0 splash damage is fail . i must my enemy snipen . 3. extra Slot is nice . but i have no pg / cpu for modul. 4. the Price , is to high . Gunnlogi is cheaper and have more HP and CPU wait I think its trying to communicate with us with some form of unknown English .... hold on let me try hi my name is oso Tiburon of the genrals we mean you no harm being are you in need of assistance Sorry , I speak only a bit english . English is not my main language . no offence meant , If I sir may ask your native tounge would be ? |
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BatKing Deltor
Tank Bros. DARKSTAR ARMY
40
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:38:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Bruce Break wrote:Why has Soma more Slots as Sica Tank ?? It has the same amount, I'm pretty sure. Soma has 4 lows 2 highs 6 total , sica has 3 highs 2 lows 5 total. |
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Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:40:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Bruce Break wrote:Why has Soma more Slots as Sica Tank ?? It has the same amount, I'm pretty sure. 2 highs 4 lows = soma 4 highs 2 lows = sica |
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negative49er
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
46
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:30:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:So a noob finds out that Enforcers are ****? Nothing new there...... I have heard many folks say that they are crap but my fully maxed out falchion has decimated many many otger tanks . If used rught they are devastating and have the highest alpha dammage of tank. You just have to be a good sgot and keep it at range 100-200m from the front line.
question how much sp do you need to max out an enforcer tank |
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Bruce Break
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.07 10:07:00 -
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oso tiburon wrote:Bruce Break wrote:oso tiburon wrote:Bruce Break wrote:Enforcer Tank is a joke . First move malus . from what ? i have no Bonus but Malus . 2 . Rocket Support . is nice but Rocket with 0 splash damage is fail . i must my enemy snipen . 3. extra Slot is nice . but i have no pg / cpu for modul. 4. the Price , is to high . Gunnlogi is cheaper and have more HP and CPU wait I think its trying to communicate with us with some form of unknown English .... hold on let me try hi my name is oso Tiburon of the genrals we mean you no harm being are you in need of assistance Sorry , I speak only a bit english . English is not my main language . no offence meant , If I sir may ask your native tounge would be ?
I speak normal German , but i think the most know what i mean |
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Atom Heart Mother
We Who Walk Alone
7
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Posted - 2013.07.07 11:39:00 -
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Bruce Break wrote:Enforcer Tank is a joke . First move malus . from what ? i have no Bonus but Malus . 2 . Rocket Support . is nice but Rocket with 0 splash damage is fail . i must my enemy snipen . 3. extra Slot is nice . but i have no pg / cpu for modul. 4. the Price , is to high . Gunnlogi is cheaper and have more HP and CPU
Skill your abilities level 5, all of them, then u may fit your enforcer as its meant to be by developers. Also the initial idea of tanking armor or shield as much as possible is not the correct approach to the matter, reconsider that for a more wise fitting. Enforcer HAVs do have a bonus each level you skill, so its pointless complaining if you're stuck at level 1. At last, bear in mind that Vayu and Falchion are level 1 tanks, I'm sure there will be better higher levl models reserved for the future. |
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Bruce Break
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.07 11:48:00 -
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Atom Heart Mother wrote:Bruce Break wrote:Enforcer Tank is a joke . First move malus . from what ? i have no Bonus but Malus . 2 . Rocket Support . is nice but Rocket with 0 splash damage is fail . i must my enemy snipen . 3. extra Slot is nice . but i have no pg / cpu for modul. 4. the Price , is to high . Gunnlogi is cheaper and have more HP and CPU Skill your abilities level 5, all of them, then u may fit your enforcer as its meant to be by developers. Also the initial idea of tanking armor or shield as much as possible is not the correct approach to the matter, reconsider that for a more wise fitting. Enforcer HAVs do have a bonus each level you skill, so its pointless complaining if you're stuck at level 1. At last, bear in mind that Vayu and Falchion are level 1 tanks, I'm sure there will be better higher levl models reserved for the future.
Bonus from enforcer is only rocket Support and zoom . Rocket has a max range from ca 200 meter and that is to Little
+ 3 % ( 6 meter ) bonus |
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Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.07.07 11:52:00 -
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If you're supposed to snipe with these, then wtf is the point of a Vayu? I thought so ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Atom Heart Mother
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2013.07.07 12:01:00 -
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Bonus from enforcer is only rocket Support and zoom . Rocket has a max range from ca 200 meter and that is to Little
+ 3 % ( 6 meter ) bonus[/quote]
I dont know this as I dont use missile turrets, but are u sure of what ur saying? I mean, with large missiles installation I can take down other turrets (even not rendered) at the opposite side of the map, much more than 200 mt, actually u can hit the enemy MCC as well ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) |
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Bruce Break
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.07 12:03:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:If you're supposed to snipe with these, then wtf is the point of a Vayu? I thought so ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
I think enforcer is a Long range tank ?
For Close combat is to expensive and slow |
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pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
383
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Posted - 2013.07.07 12:05:00 -
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negative49er wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:So a noob finds out that Enforcers are ****? Nothing new there...... I have heard many folks say that they are crap but my fully maxed out falchion has decimated many many otger tanks . If used rught they are devastating and have the highest alpha dammage of tank. You just have to be a good sgot and keep it at range 100-200m from the front line. question how much sp do you need to max out an enforcer tank
Iv got about 12mill in shield tanks andabout 1.5 in armour and 1 in scout suits. |
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Bruce Break
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.07 12:06:00 -
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Atom Heart Mother wrote:
Bonus from enforcer is only rocket Support and zoom . Rocket has a max range from ca 200 meter and that is to Little
+ 3 % ( 6 meter ) bonus
I dont know this as I dont use missile turrets, but are u sure of what ur saying? I mean, with large missiles installation I can take down other turrets (even not rendered) at the opposite side of the map, much more than 200 mt, actually u can hit the enemy MCC as well [/quote]
Missile Installation is with no nerv |
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pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
383
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Posted - 2013.07.07 12:07:00 -
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Bruce Break wrote:Atom Heart Mother wrote:Bruce Break wrote:Enforcer Tank is a joke . First move malus . from what ? i have no Bonus but Malus . 2 . Rocket Support . is nice but Rocket with 0 splash damage is fail . i must my enemy snipen . 3. extra Slot is nice . but i have no pg / cpu for modul. 4. the Price , is to high . Gunnlogi is cheaper and have more HP and CPU Skill your abilities level 5, all of them, then u may fit your enforcer as its meant to be by developers. Also the initial idea of tanking armor or shield as much as possible is not the correct approach to the matter, reconsider that for a more wise fitting. Enforcer HAVs do have a bonus each level you skill, so its pointless complaining if you're stuck at level 1. At last, bear in mind that Vayu and Falchion are level 1 tanks, I'm sure there will be better higher levl models reserved for the future. Bonus from enforcer is only rocket Support and zoom . Rocket has a max range from ca 200 meter and that is to Little + 3 % ( 6 meter ) bonus
Missiles acctually 250m range without enforcer skills appiled. So with fully maxed enforcer its +15% so 250 becomes 287.5m range |
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Bruce Break
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.07 12:13:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Bruce Break wrote:Atom Heart Mother wrote:Bruce Break wrote:Enforcer Tank is a joke . First move malus . from what ? i have no Bonus but Malus . 2 . Rocket Support . is nice but Rocket with 0 splash damage is fail . i must my enemy snipen . 3. extra Slot is nice . but i have no pg / cpu for modul. 4. the Price , is to high . Gunnlogi is cheaper and have more HP and CPU Skill your abilities level 5, all of them, then u may fit your enforcer as its meant to be by developers. Also the initial idea of tanking armor or shield as much as possible is not the correct approach to the matter, reconsider that for a more wise fitting. Enforcer HAVs do have a bonus each level you skill, so its pointless complaining if you're stuck at level 1. At last, bear in mind that Vayu and Falchion are level 1 tanks, I'm sure there will be better higher levl models reserved for the future. Bonus from enforcer is only rocket Support and zoom . Rocket has a max range from ca 200 meter and that is to Little + 3 % ( 6 meter ) bonus Missiles acctually 250m range without enforcer skills appiled. So with fully maxed enforcer its +15% so 250 becomes 287.5m range
I have feeling is less . sorry |
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Beld Errmon
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:00:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:So a noob finds out that Enforcers are ****? Nothing new there...... I have heard many folks say that they are crap but my fully maxed out falchion has decimated many many otger tanks . If used rught they are devastating and have the highest alpha dammage of tank. You just have to be a good sgot and keep it at range 100-200m from the front line. yeah just stick 8000 shields on them and rail tank, then when a madruger keeps making you recall it you can atleast say you did it in style *wink* shame my heatsink malfunctioned the other day I almost had your pretty little falc. I normally dont rail in the falchion but I was testing a fit . I think i remember you head gliching your turret over the hill at the otherside of manus peak (not sure if this is the game you speak of ) yea reall tough firing that rail using the armour rail glich/exploit *wink* .
Well when I almost got you I was on the road opposite the MCC hill, but yes I suppose the spot I was shooting from later in that match would benefit from armor tanks turrets being messed up, from my point of view though I'm just trying to have as low a profile as possible for you to shoot at while being able to shoot myself.
For the record I'm a supporter of shield tanks being buffed and that turret glitch being fixed, and redline sniping in general ending, dunno how that last one is possible but I don't enjoy spending an entire match neutralizing a redline rail tank, killing one only happens if the pilot is absolutely terrible. |
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demonkiller 12
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:12:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Yep the minute you deploy your tank you are a potentially large pay check for av players . If your needing help fitting your falchionsee void echos guid later as I will be posting some advanced fits later todat . If you fit your falchion right you can potentiall have over 10,000 ehp. ( the fact it has a movement penalty tells you to bulk up as much hp as possible as its ment to lock down a position from range.)
i have no movement penalty, in fact my shield tanks move as fast as my armor tanks, which both move 1.5x ish faster than armor tanking controller users, i hope CCP never fix keyboard inputs <3 |
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Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:12:00 -
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iv destroyed every enforcer tank iv seen on the battle field, both falchion and vayu. |
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demonkiller 12
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:15:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Bruce Break wrote:Enforcer Tank is a joke . First move malus . from what ? i have no Bonus but Malus . 2 . Rocket Support . is nice but Rocket with 0 splash damage is fail . i must my enemy snipen . 3. extra Slot is nice . but i have no pg / cpu for modul. 4. the Price , is to high . Gunnlogi is cheaper and have more HP and CPU enforcers are long range tanks. stop using them for cqc!
go convince duna of that, im sure he'll have a thing or two to say |
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demonkiller 12
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:21:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:iv destroyed every enforcer tank iv seen on the battle field, both falchion and vayu.
ive killed every falchion ive seen, but ive seen vayus like 1% of the time a tank is out |
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pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
570
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:21:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Yep the minute you deploy your tank you are a potentially large pay check for av players . If your needing help fitting your falchionsee void echos guid later as I will be posting some advanced fits later todat . If you fit your falchion right you can potentiall have over 10,000 ehp. ( the fact it has a movement penalty tells you to bulk up as much hp as possible as its ment to lock down a position from range.) i have no movement penalty, in fact my shield tanks move as fast as my armor tanks, which both move 1.5x ish faster than armor tanking controller users, i hope CCP never fix keyboard inputs <3
All enforcers have a movement penalty 34% for the falchions . Not sure what it is on the vayue. The only way you wont notice the movment penalty is if you use kbm |
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demonkiller 12
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:24:00 -
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Atom Heart Mother wrote:
Bonus from enforcer is only rocket Support and zoom . Rocket has a max range from ca 200 meter and that is to Little
+ 3 % ( 6 meter ) bonus
I dont know this as I dont use missile turrets, but are u sure of what ur saying? I mean, with large missiles installation I can take down other turrets (even not rendered) at the opposite side of the map, much more than 200 mt, actually u can hit the enemy MCC as well [/quote]
how do you know if youre hitting the MCC? i dont get hit markers on it and you cant damage it |
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demonkiller 12
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:24:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Yep the minute you deploy your tank you are a potentially large pay check for av players . If your needing help fitting your falchionsee void echos guid later as I will be posting some advanced fits later todat . If you fit your falchion right you can potentiall have over 10,000 ehp. ( the fact it has a movement penalty tells you to bulk up as much hp as possible as its ment to lock down a position from range.) i have no movement penalty, in fact my shield tanks move as fast as my armor tanks, which both move 1.5x ish faster than armor tanking controller users, i hope CCP never fix keyboard inputs <3 All enforcers have a movement penalty 34% for the falchions . Not sure what it is on the vayue. The only way you wont notice the movment penalty is if you use kbm
<3 |
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Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:26:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:enforcers are long range tanks. stop using them for cqc!
funny because they give bonuses for blaster and blaster range LOL they are just giant contradictions. |
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Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:31:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:In concept, Enforcer tanks are great, high damage variants of standard tanks with a slower speed and less HP but people need to remeber these tanks are best for tank v tank or tank v installation due to having up to 10% or 15% boost to damage they just can't CQC especially against infantry.
hmmm, interesting statement, but then why do enforcers die to quickly to standard tanks?
in every match iv seen them in, they always die |
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pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
570
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:42:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Killar-12 wrote:In concept, Enforcer tanks are great, high damage variants of standard tanks with a slower speed and less HP but people need to remeber these tanks are best for tank v tank or tank v installation due to having up to 10% or 15% boost to damage they just can't CQC especially against infantry. hmmm, interesting statement, but then why do enforcers die to quickly to standard tanks? in every match iv seen them in, they always die
Most falchions I have mekted have been terribly fitted I.e. less than 6000 ehp I stack shields and resistance ampifyers on mine ind I roll out with roughly 10k ehp The fact that they have a movment penalyt tells you that you want to be avke to take a few hits before withdrawing to rep up. They do however need a buff to tgeir ehp to make them a bit more viable. |
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Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:54:00 -
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I revived my guide in training grounds. |
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