Stealth nerf logi thread?

Complex armor plates don't really bog down a heavy. 10% to our movement speed isn't that much, it's much less than 10% to an assault's movement speed or 10% to a scouts movement speed. IMHO any heavy that refuses to stack complex armor plates should probably move to a different suit.

I feel sorry for anyone starting to make a heavy

What benefits do Heavys have over a logy with 650+ shields.

Don't.

Heavies can do pretty good in Pubs.

It sounds like they only do bad in PC where everyone is in proto and is willing to use proto death after death.

more hp, and a lot more dps...

A logy with 650+ shields. I have been thinking about this.

Heavys should have the MOST hp of any class. No class should come close.

Thats why we are heavys. More HP and a HMG. Yes they can have 1,500 total HP but thats with PROTO Sentinel suit and complex armor plates bogging you down. This requires a logy to heal any damage done to you. We could fit all complex reps and have 25 HP a second and they do work when being shot at but 25Hp isn't anything with 506 max armor plus 1 bullet kills that passive rep. Logys shields rep 20 shields and assault do 25 a second base . They still can put a energizer on and do way more. So the cost of 1 high slot + losing 6% shields does the work of 4 lows for armor. On top of that logys have a 3 second delay on shields to kick in and 6 for depleted. There is a module to fix that. Over time shields heal way more then armor.

Now the best part. YES THE HMG THE POWER FROM THE HEAVY WOOOHOO. Not. You play anyone with a brain and guess what they do when there shields are half gone? Cut a corner, jump into there pool of blues, or pop you with a locus.

Heavys have been taking a beating for a while now. All the work on AR and shields. Yea there were armor plates added but take a look at them. they cost alot of CPU+PG. Why have a heavy class if your just going to work on AR and shields. Yet to see any progress with a new heavy suit.(commando doesnt count. Thats junk) Guns are TBA.

I feel sorry for anyone starting to make a heavy or all ready is a heavy(including me) Heavy's need to wait for a new suit to come out that is shield based because this game is based all around shields. I do enjoy the life of a heavy but I see that i could be way better. I'm not saying super super buff the heavy suit or add in some crazy a** heavy suit. I just dont think any suit should come close in HP to a heavy/ A flux could fix this problem with shields. To bad I don't seeing anyone using them I could make a logy shield tanker with more Speed,Rep,and Hp and be better off.

For the Hp thing. If we have plates on. You run. Get range. Headshot's
DPS at CQC. If not CQC say bye bye to hitting people and bye bye to your suit

heavies are a defensive suit when solo and a frontline demolisher when in a squad. at all times a jeep should be available for you and your logi to ride in. heavies arent made to run around in maps like assaults.

orrrrr build a better suit and learn the tango. ive gone up against you many times and went face to face with you in an advance assault and won many many times. this is not an insult my friend just me telling you to imporvise.
i got about 7 heavies in my corp whom are beast and i cannot kill them because there suits at advance lvl are built very strong and well. also a good team to back you up and have your back helps the strongest side to a heavy is a logi and if you dont have one i suggest you find a new home.
heavies are powerful very powerful when ur team helps you and when u build a bad ass suit that you took time with and know the tango the tango saves lives and takes them as well.

Try to move from one place to another? The movement speed is crazy low. I'm not going to stay there and take bullets.

You ran in a group and rapped my ass. I remember that. Add me as a contact and look at the K/d and W/ L. Im not to bad of a heavy. I **** hate going against you guys btw. To much of a challenge

It is not much slower than the default is already. A percentage of a low number is small. Whatever bullets you're taking it's not much more than if you had no armor plates on, plus you get the extra armor for protection. You move within squads and always have someone designated on repairing your armor. If you accept the sacrifices you can easily become a moving wall that spits out bullets 2000 rounds a minute. A point defense man, as the sentry is intended.

Again, if you are concerned that moving from one place from another is too slow than you should explore other suits. I'd prefer it if we let Sentinels be sentinels and not a large assault player. The same thought goes with scouts, where people seem to be pushing to make them simply a fast assault player. I'm not saying that the Sentinel is good as is, it can definitely use some improvements, but if we're not even willing to use complex armor plates on sentinels then why are they even in the game? We should just make it Shield Assault 514.

lmao we stick together bro thats the key to winning. but i never use proto really i have it but rarely use it. im either advance logi or advance assault. i didnt run to a group tho my team was in stand by hacking the letter u chased me and didnt see the flock. ive got the video. but it was a funny ass game we let the other team keep a letter only to clone them.

Yea i do agree with the plates for PC but come come on. You see a heavy just chilling there waiting for you to come out. Ill get a person around me and take him down. he cant get me after all. You might as well call this game Shield Assault 514

That's when i gave up in that game i think. I might have tried 2 more times due to rage tho.

i disagree although shields are powerful they arent the game. heavies are very powerful you just have to be a tactical player when using such a vulnerable suit. meaning defending a letter or running with a pack of logis whom will repair you or will give you support fire to clear out the letters im a heavy in my alt oprah whinfrey account and i go in with mine 30 plus kill games with my team.

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For the Hp thing. If we have plates on. You run. Get range. Headshot's
DPS at CQC. If not CQC say bye bye to hitting people and bye bye to my suit

It is not much slower than the default is already. A percentage of a low number is small. Whatever bullets you're taking it's not much more than if you had no armor plates on, plus you get the extra armor for protection. You move within squads and always have someone designated on repairing your armor. If you accept the sacrifices you can easily become a moving wall that spits out bullets 2000 rounds a minute. A point defense man, as the sentry is intended.

Again, if you are concerned that moving from one place from another is too slow than you should explore other suits. I'd prefer it if we let Sentinels be sentinels and not a large assault player. The same thought goes with scouts, where people seem to be pushing to make them simply a fast assault player. I'm not saying that the Sentinel is good as is, it can definitely use some improvements, but if we're not even willing to use complex armor plates on sentinels then why are they even in the game? We should just make it Shield Assault 514.

never said i was. but maybe then you would realize that heavies dont need a buff. proper teamwork brings out the best in your suit. hands down. going commando will only make you try harder only to fail because of the frustration and not focussing on your surroundings. and i got all my ninja **** upgraded. so i will still see you and take you out muhwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Sorry dude but you're wrong. Movement penalties are a death sentence in this game, for any suit. Even more so when you have a much larger hitbox than everyone else. Not to mention the importance of LAV dodging.

One complex plate will drop your sprint by .511 m/s, that's nearly 2' Per Second! In the extra second it takes you to cover that last two feet and make it to cover you will lose more HP than what you're gaining from that complex plate.

I have built fits with as much as 800 Armor and sprint below 4m/s......I do MUCH better with my fit that has two complex kinetic catalyzers and sprints at 6.7.