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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.04 18:57:00 -
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Why not little strikes?
For example:
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE DON'T START RAGE ON NUMBERS
P1 & P2 are in a squad
P1 >>>250 wp
P2>>>250 wp
Total 500 wp
Off Map Support >>> tactical rocket (1)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orbital strike (0)
Map
Enjoy the explosion
Later
P1>>>1250 wp
P2>>> 1250 wp
total 2500 wp
Off Map Support >>> tactical rocket (4)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orbital strike (0) } because the have already used 500 wp for the 1st tactical rocket
Then
P1>>>1500 wp
P2>>> 1500 wp
total 3000 wp
Off Map Support >>> tactical rocket (5)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> precision strike (1)
In this way you can choose to have a tactical advantage before having the wp needed for a orbital strike, of course the power of the different strikes should be scaled, the tactical rocket in this example should do 1/5 damage of an orbital, it can be good to clear a rooftop, but not to blast a wide area. |
TODDSTER024
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:34:00 -
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A rocket would be nice for a tank |
Rian CuThalion
D3LTA FORC3
Inver Brass
34
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:59:00 -
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Sounds kinda like Halo 4 getting some sort of powerful limited usage weapon for WP. I like the concept. Maybe eventually tie this in with EVE where the WP on the gound benefit ships in space and as a reward (think vending machine?) the EVE ship drops it down for you. |
Lightning Bolt2
DUST University
Ivy League
33
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:40:00 -
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I would like EVE ship crossfire to land on the ground  |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:08:00 -
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3K damage dealing rockets from the MCC to hurt tanks would be quite nice...
Give it a tiny radius, like 10m, so I can't just wipe out entire objectives like an OB can.
+1 |
Provolonee
Undefined Risk
DARKSTAR ARMY
39
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:12:00 -
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I would like an Itty bitty one, just enough to pop a sniper. Oh and I get to push the button, squads can have the big ones. Or what if you could earn/call in what ever support you eve pilot was carting around. Let em craft depots/ installations, giant space rocks. They could sit up there all day long selling us goodies. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2157
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:35:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:I would like EVE ship crossfire to land on the ground
Enjoy getting randomly owned.
I'm sure we'll get lots of happy new players with that. |
Ecshon Autorez
Elite Mercs INC.
80
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Posted - 2013.07.05 05:07:00 -
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Thought of ideas for new OMS awhile ago, forgot, this jogged my memory. thanks 
For the smaller strike it would make sense for them to be fired from the MCC instead of from space.
Some ideas I had:
- Direct laser (dat name)
Fires similar to the current Precision Strike (minus the warning lights, some damage, and duration) but fired directly from the MCC to the target location.
This meas that it is possible for it be blocked by structures (not just roofs) because it travels along X axis (horizontal) as well as Y (vertical (a tiny bit, the MCC is in the air after all))
It also means it can hit areas that the Precision Strike can't.
Highlites areas of the map that the MCC is unable to strike while you are selecting location. (Perhaps instead of overhead view, it gives view from MCC?)
- Missile barrage/Single missile strike
Fires multiple or a single missile from the MCC that go up then come down on target area (like the NULL Cannons do to the MCC)
- Drop pod insertion
Similar to what happens from 1:30 to 1:50 in the Immortal clone soldiers trailer
Fired from MCC (goes up to gain altitude then comes back down, so it has a minimum range)
Spawn in MCC with your squad and jump in.
Helps to counter redlines by getting them (redlined team) to the other side of the map in a couple seconds.
- Drone support (If drones are implemeted)
MCC launches several drones (1-3 maybe 4?) to an area to provide close air support.
Not sure if drones in EVE have an operational time limit or anything that meas they HAVE to recall to ship, if so, should give the drones a time limit, say 0:30-1:30(?) of actually being at the TARGET LOCATION (does not include travel time)
While there any enemies that the drone can scan are broadcast to the ENTIRE TEAM (similar to how squads currently work, but entire team instead)
(For those saying that 30s isn't very long, it's long enough for a few drones to kill your entire team if they're in the area and are all infantry (unless you have an AV guy ready) because you would have to deal with the drones + the enemy infantry.)
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Lightning Bolt2
DUST University
Ivy League
33
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Posted - 2013.07.06 17:56:00 -
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Ecshon Autorez wrote:
- Drone support (If drones are implemeted)
MCC launches several drones (1-3 maybe 4?) to an area to provide close air support.
Not sure if drones in EVE have an operational time limit or anything that meas they HAVE to recall to ship, if so, should give the drones a time limit, say 0:30-1:30(?) of actually being at the TARGET LOCATION (does not include travel time)
While there any enemies that the drone can scan are broadcast to the ENTIRE TEAM (similar to how squads currently work, but entire team instead)
(For those saying that 30s isn't very long, it's long enough for a few drones to kill your entire team if they're in the area and are all infantry (unless you have an AV guy ready) because you would have to deal with the drones + the enemy infantry.)
THATS what we need!!! 30s is long enough for me to hack an objective solo then kill 2-4 guys (If i'm on the objective or close)depending on how much support I have. I can see me (or my enemies) attacking an objective with drones shooting lasers. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:13:00 -
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The drones would be nice.
Just don't let them be able to take on a proto squad.
+1
Cookie for you
My cookie jar is getting low... Might have to start handing out armor plates. |
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Lightning Bolt2
DUST University
Ivy League
33
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:15:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:The drones would be nice.
Just don't let them be able to take on a proto squad.
+1
Cookie for you
My cookie jar is getting low... Might have to start handing out armor plates.
I'm a scout, I HATE ARMOR PLATES!!! |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
154
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:35:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:The drones would be nice.
Just don't let them be able to take on a proto squad.
+1
Cookie for you
My cookie jar is getting low... Might have to start handing out armor plates. I'm a scout, I HATE ARMOR PLATES!!!
Ferroscale? |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
849
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:27:00 -
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lol ccp said that the precision strike would be the smallest srike so i dobut it
but great post!!! |
negative49er
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
46
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:45:00 -
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please don't make killstreak award like Call of Duty, this is NOT Call of Duty |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
150
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:58:00 -
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I'm all for more varieties of OMS at varying levels of WP. |
Haron Vathek
Urban Mining Corp
Gentlemen's.Club
13
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Posted - 2013.07.07 02:53:00 -
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A new kind of OMS like this would be interesting, but I feel the system to how one access these tools, atleast in instant battle needs to be altered in some way before doing so (Or they could improve the matchmaking, I guess). The game rewards people too much for being in squads already with the precision strike, making it many times a deciding factor in any game mode if one team possesses a strike and the other one doesnt.
I fear adding more types of orbital bombardment, in the current unlock system, would just add up to the problem and make it worse.
Might be a bit selfish of me say (as I am a soloqueue player), but this is what I feel about the matter.
- Haron Vathek
edit1: fixed a typo. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
251
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:19:00 -
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negative49er wrote:please don't make killstreak award like Call of Duty, this is NOT Call of Duty
I agree, but i will make you an example:
line harvester, the big towers, people are camping over there, 2 sniper and 2 AV they are unreachable.
If you have OMS, you use it for them and using the OMS cost wp, this mean you will need 500 more wp to use something else.
Idk how it works on COD but, in a killstreak if you kill with your power does those kills count for a better killstreak power? |
General Erick
Tritan's Onslaught
RISE of LEGION
43
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:44:00 -
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We just need an artillery turret for HAV's and a laser designator type equipment so the HAV can activate a module to immobilize itself, lock on, and fire. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
251
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:50:00 -
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General Erick wrote:We just need an artillery turret for HAV's and a laser designator type equipment so the HAV can activate a module to immobilize itself, lock on, and fire.
This reminds me the first Starcraft  |
Ecshon Autorez
Solaris Space Marines
81
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:34:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:lol ccp said that the precision strike would be the smallest srike so i dobut it but great post!!!
Huh, so think bigger, is that it? Ok then.
- Laser Strafe
Fires the same as the current precision strike, but instead of focusing all fire on a single spot the lasers are directed in a line from point A to point B. Means incresed AoE but less lasers hit the same area, good for mobile targets.
"Oh if I fire a precision strike at your tank you'll just move it? Well what if I have the strike follow your tank?"
Now I'm going to stop ther because I don't know what the upper limit is, I mean, are they saying a Titan will be able to use its super weapons on the planet? Aside from nukes n things that'll wipe out the entire area I can't think of anything other than variations of the Precision Strike. |
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CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
20
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:39:00 -
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y dont we make that tacticle rocket a remote controlled missle...
that will solve the sniper problem and camper problems...
and alot of proto user problems.... |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
263
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:32:00 -
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Ecshon Autorez wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:lol ccp said that the precision strike would be the smallest srike so i dobut it but great post!!! Huh, so think bigger, is that it? Ok then.
- Laser Strafe
Fires the same as the current precision strike, but instead of focusing all fire on a single spot the lasers are directed in a line from point A to point B. Means incresed AoE but less lasers hit the same area, good for mobile targets.
"Oh if I fire a precision strike at your tank you'll just move it? Well what if I have the strike follow your tank?"
Now I'm going to stop ther because I don't know what the upper limit is, I mean, are they saying a Titan will be able to use its super weapons on the planet? Aside from nukes n things that'll wipe out the entire area I can't think of anything other than variations of the Precision Strike.
EvE strikes are better than the normal orbitals, they kill tanks too. |
SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
62
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:16:00 -
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negative49er wrote:please don't make killstreak award like Call of Duty, this is NOT Call of Duty
Orbital Strike is already a killstreak by another name.
I'm all for taking the best ideas from other games and integrating it into Dust, as long as it fits the theme and doesn't remove the ability for a real player to provide it.
e.g. having a drone that follows you around reviving you is not good, because it makes the medic in your squad redundant.
Personally, I think orbital strikes should not be available in PC matches: all off-map support should be provided by Eve players only. |
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