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Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
178
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Posted - 2013.07.04 18:29:00 -
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allow team-mates to slowly push eachother around as they clip through eachother
the problem will solve itself |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
438
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Posted - 2013.07.04 18:40:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its on the roadmap.
They have a road map? Is it the one where they are throwing out huge ideas, but never deliver? At the rate of the current road map we will have all the racial heavy and scout suites by August... 2014.
CCP really needs to start introducing patch notes of planned changes for the upcoming patch they are working on and updating them regularly as values are changed or if content is added or removed. This way the community has the ability to offer feedback, because CCP has been completely inept when it has com to game design for Dust/ |
StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
254
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Posted - 2013.07.04 18:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its on the roadmap.
LoL you troll!
I can make 11,000 SP while I spend the 20 mins taking a deuce and trolling these threads or spend the 20 mins in the game and only make 14-15,000 SP.
taking a deuce and trolling these threads > playing broke game
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
233
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Posted - 2013.07.04 18:48:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Factional warfare, have a friend join opponent team kill each others LAVs until you hit the sweet point in participation and your good. Or join a friend in opposite teams, find a lone merc and spam revive him.
it is very easy to work around any limitation CCP sets. The best way to fix this is to incapacitated SP and link it to WP you gain, and ISK you risk; so you can still afk farm but if you play you can get 3x more SP and ISK. My risk/reward needs to be balanced, at the moment the risk of playing is higher than the reward. But the reward of not playing is greater than playing with a risk. For example if I die 2 times I already lost money because no matter how good i play chances are i wont get over 200K isk.
Use cheaper dropsuits adv gear is very good for pubs and pull out proto when the other team has it my adv dropsuit with a devolve is only 70k and I usually get 300k+ ISK a match |
We are 138
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
76
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Posted - 2013.07.04 18:55:00 -
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AFK is shameful and I think we should publicly ridicule them, they don't care ether way. Just today when I had to mow my lawn I put my head phones on my GF, called in a LLAV with 3000 shields and 65% damage reduction, and just turned her lose, came back an hour later minus a few LLAV's but got my SP and did it with out AFKing. lol I think she only got a few kills the whole time but she had fun. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
148
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Posted - 2013.07.04 18:59:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Just got out of a match where 10 mercs were in the mcc the only ones fighting were my squad this afk bs needs to stop it's getting out of hand When my armor suit stops being gimped ill stop afking. Actually I am farming SP to switch to a Minmatar suit. Armor got a huge "buff" thanks to the new plates. Play around with some fittings and don't talk about it on here. It's not a "buff" it's a "bug." I'm sure because it is armor, it will be fixed soon. The new plates are a joke |
NoxiousMentos
Bojo's School of the Trades
45
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:07:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Just got out of a match where 10 mercs were in the mcc the only ones fighting were my squad this afk bs needs to stop it's getting out of hand
So do pubstomps, which STB seems to be the worst culprit of it I have seen.A lot of things need to stop and I am sure they will eventually. Until then I will be chilling in the MCC everytime the other team is pubstomping or running 6 murdertaxis,or when I just plain don't feel like playing but want some free SP. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
390
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:13:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote: Sure there is.
If you don't leave the MCC.-NO SP.
If you stay behind the redline, and don't get any kills,revives,or repairs,-NO SP.
Sadly, there's always a way around it. You could run out and get a kill/get killed then go spawn on the ground behind the redline.
The only thing I could think of that would stop it is if a player had to either shoot and hit a red, earn WP, or die every 2 minutes or get kicked from the game. To cheat the system you'd have to babysit the PS3 to the point that you might as well play.
Earning no SP doesn't help the people actually playing win, so the offender should just get kicked.
There's probably a way around even that idea, though...
ED: Just thought, my idea would make life hard for Dropship pilots (it's hard enough already). I suppose being in a vehicle should keep you from being kicked too. At least there are creative ways to punish AFKers that way. |
Rian CuThalion
D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass
32
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:15:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Rian CuThalion wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:lol... blame CCP's built in mechanic. Don't hate the player, hate the game If CCP gave people more SP to actually PLAY then maybe you'll see more people playing. As it is I get the same SP from sitting in the MCC watching TV than I do for actually playing. I MIGHT get 1-2k more SP playing, but so what. Watching tv > 1-2k SP I am all for cheating and glitching IN SINGLE PLAYER GAMES ONLY!!! It should not be encouraged, excused, or allowed. Not only is this a multiplayer game it is a team based game. I really don't see the point in playing this MMORPGFPS like it's a single player campaign. Not only are you too lazy to play the game you are screwing your team mates. Congradulations your lazy. Go find a single player game where you can do the same thing. Just please don't do it here and expect to be appreciated. You should leave dust and find something you actually enjoy doing. CCP never stated this was against any rules, neither has the CPM members. Nobody is saying this is a right thing to do, but what can you expect??? The mechanic is in the game! People are using said mechanic to their advantage. You can choose to use it, or don't. Don't come here and judge people for using a mechanic that is working as intended. Direct your misguided butthurtery elsewhere, cuz CCP was warned about this and they did not listen. So HTFU.
I never said it was against the rules. Killing people is a mechanic of life doesn't mean I'll do it. It's not butthurtery it's more a moral sense for the greater good, not being little kids looking out for only themselves. |
Nebra Tene
Roaming Blades
105
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:22:00 -
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Rian CuThalion wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:We should start a shame board on here listing all the AFK losers.... Yes!!! Let us offer up their names to be ridiculed before the masses. May they be marked as the cowards they are. And let their corporation and alliance members be witness to their misdeeds and shun them. (And maybe CCP do something (penalty etc.) about them?)
What happens if: - They don't care. - Their corp doesn't care. (many don't at this point.) - They're not in a corp and don't care to join one. (Just playing now and then for no reason.)
There's also the fact that many individual players don't care either, and its quite likely only a handful will read said list to begin with, plus there are tons of players that AFK outside the MCC and in various corners of the map, this would only cover a handful of them,
Besides, do you think they'll just go "Oh no I am ashamed, I must stop AFK-ing/ stop playing now"? Heh, please if it was that simple to solve the problem, it would not exist anymore.
There's no quick or easy way to eliminate it, as long as you get rewarded as much for doing nothing than by actively playing, this will keep happening. |
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
920
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:27:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Don't hate the player, hate the game
Dammit, that kind of lazy cop out has always annoyed me. It's as bad as "it's your own fault your wallet was stolen since you left it lying around." |
Beld Errmon
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ Orion Empire
677
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:27:00 -
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Its easy to fix, WP = SP and uncap it, increase passive SP so that ppl who don't wanna play atm or have busy work lives don't fall behind as much. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
142
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:27:00 -
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I'll be happy when some sort of anti-AFK system is implemented.... although I'm not super confident folks won't find a way to AFK around it.....
Having a mechanic like this in-game is too tempting for those that are selfish to pass up. If you want to hog a spot on your team by filling it with a merc that isn't gong to help his peers with the battle you are just being selfish and self-centered. The honorable thing to do would be either play, if the SP matters to you (even though you think the game is 'broken' or 'still a beta'), or just leave.
Sure, I don't hate you. I don't fault you for being weak and using an exploit. I just think you are a tool. Happy AFK'ing, tool.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
396
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:28:00 -
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Nebra Tene wrote:Rian CuThalion wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:We should start a shame board on here listing all the AFK losers.... Yes!!! Let us offer up their names to be ridiculed before the masses. May they be marked as the cowards they are. And let their corporation and alliance members be witness to their misdeeds and shun them. (And maybe CCP do something (penalty etc.) about them?) What happens if: - They don't care. - Their corp doesn't care. (many don't at this point.) - They're not in a corp and don't care to join one. (Just playing now and then for no reason.) There's also the fact that many individual players don't care either, and its quite likely only a handful will read said list to begin with, plus there are tons of players that AFK outside the MCC and in various corners of the map, this would only cover a handful of them, Besides, do you think they'll just go "Oh no I am ashamed, I must stop AFK-ing/ stop playing now"? Heh, please if it was that simple to solve the problem, it would not exist anymore. There's no quick or easy way to eliminate it, as long as you get rewarded as much for doing nothing than by actively playing, this will keep happening.
Or the fact it is against forum rules to make such a list.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
396
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:31:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Factional warfare, have a friend join opponent team kill each others LAVs until you hit the sweet point in participation and your good. Or join a friend in opposite teams, find a lone merc and spam revive him.
it is very easy to work around any limitation CCP sets. The best way to fix this is to incapacitated SP and link it to WP you gain, and ISK you risk; so you can still afk farm but if you play you can get 3x more SP and ISK. My risk/reward needs to be balanced, at the moment the risk of playing is higher than the reward. But the reward of not playing is greater than playing with a risk. For example if I die 2 times I already lost money because no matter how good i play chances are i wont get over 200K isk. Use cheaper dropsuits adv gear is very good for pubs and pull out proto when the other team has it my adv dropsuit with a devolve is only 70k and I usually get 300k+ ISK a match
Advanced logistics has a bad slot layout so I have to use proto. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
371
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:33:00 -
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NoxiousMentos wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Just got out of a match where 10 mercs were in the mcc the only ones fighting were my squad this afk bs needs to stop it's getting out of hand So do pubstomps, which STB seems to be the worst culprit of it I have seen.A lot of things need to stop and I am sure they will eventually. Until then I will be chilling in the MCC everytime the other team is pubstomping or running 6 murdertaxis,or when I just plain don't feel like playing but want some free SP. Pubstomping? Stb? Not anymore then any other corp.
Unless by 'pubstomping' you mean not sucking
Making excuses as to why you stay in the mcc are just that : excuses. |
NoxiousMentos
Bojo's School of the Trades
45
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:41:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:NoxiousMentos wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Just got out of a match where 10 mercs were in the mcc the only ones fighting were my squad this afk bs needs to stop it's getting out of hand So do pubstomps, which STB seems to be the worst culprit of it I have seen.A lot of things need to stop and I am sure they will eventually. Until then I will be chilling in the MCC everytime the other team is pubstomping or running 6 murdertaxis,or when I just plain don't feel like playing but want some free SP. Pubstomping? Stb? Not anymore then any other corp. Unless by 'pubstomping' you mean not sucking Making excuses as to why you stay in the mcc are just that : excuses.
Yes yes and QQing is just that : QQing B itching is just that : B itching
Well that an easy and lazy comeback wasn't it?
I am not saying AFKing is the most legit thing ever nor do I ONLY do it for pubstomps,I often do it for the **** of it or while I am doing something else.No excuses from me dood.If pubstomps and everything else stopped my ass would still be in the MCC for about 25-50% of my matches.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
535
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:42:00 -
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StubbyDucky wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its on the roadmap. LoL you troll! I can make 11,000 SP while I spend the 20 mins taking a deuce and trolling these threads or spend the 20 mins in the game and only make 14-15,000 SP. taking a deuce and trolling these threads > playing broke game Its only broken because people like you aren't participating in the battles.
I had a match against some of your A-team. It was a great game. I think we were behind by a tic or two and ended up cloning them. Out of the 20 or so Domination matches I played in that sitting there were only one or two actual battles. In the others the opposing team quit or the blueberries I drew were sitting in the MCC making my efforts fruitless.
People need to quit bitching about the game and either play it or leave.
AFkers and quitters are ruining the game. Time in battle should have ZERO to do with isk or SP payouts. ZERO |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
371
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:00:00 -
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NoxiousMentos wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:NoxiousMentos wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Just got out of a match where 10 mercs were in the mcc the only ones fighting were my squad this afk bs needs to stop it's getting out of hand So do pubstomps, which STB seems to be the worst culprit of it I have seen.A lot of things need to stop and I am sure they will eventually. Until then I will be chilling in the MCC everytime the other team is pubstomping or running 6 murdertaxis,or when I just plain don't feel like playing but want some free SP. Pubstomping? Stb? Not anymore then any other corp. Unless by 'pubstomping' you mean not sucking Making excuses as to why you stay in the mcc are just that : excuses. Yes yes and QQing is just that : QQing B itching is just that : B itching Well that an easy and lazy comeback wasn't it? I am not saying AFKing is the most legit thing ever nor do I ONLY do it for pubstomps,I often do it for the **** of it or while I am doing something else.No excuses from me dood.If pubstomps and everything else stopped my ass would still be in the MCC for about 25-50% of my matches. It's sad really I'm trying to get a ligament problem of the game fixed and all you can do is make excuses as to why your exploiting a mechanic and troll.
Your corporation should be ashamed of you, and you should be ashamed of yourself as a man.
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NoxiousMentos
Bojo's School of the Trades
45
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:18:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:NoxiousMentos wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:NoxiousMentos wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Just got out of a match where 10 mercs were in the mcc the only ones fighting were my squad this afk bs needs to stop it's getting out of hand So do pubstomps, which STB seems to be the worst culprit of it I have seen.A lot of things need to stop and I am sure they will eventually. Until then I will be chilling in the MCC everytime the other team is pubstomping or running 6 murdertaxis,or when I just plain don't feel like playing but want some free SP. Pubstomping? Stb? Not anymore then any other corp. Unless by 'pubstomping' you mean not sucking Making excuses as to why you stay in the mcc are just that : excuses. Yes yes and QQing is just that : QQing B itching is just that : B itching Well that an easy and lazy comeback wasn't it? I am not saying AFKing is the most legit thing ever nor do I ONLY do it for pubstomps,I often do it for the **** of it or while I am doing something else.No excuses from me dood.If pubstomps and everything else stopped my ass would still be in the MCC for about 25-50% of my matches. It's sad really I'm trying to get a ligament problem of the game fixed and all you can do is make excuses as to why your exploiting a mechanic and troll. Your corporation should be ashamed of you, and you should be ashamed of yourself as a man.
I could never feel anything remotely close to shame for anything in a GAME because it is just a GAME.I know it is a legit problem,there are SO many of them in Dust.All of the problems will be fixed eventually,just getitng tired of seeing this same thread popping up 15 times a day.My corp can feel whatever they want about me,I can leave if it is a really big deal.
I am sick of many things about this turd of a game but me making a thread that has been made 100 times before will do nothing. I am "exploiting a mechanic" and you are "violating the forum rules" ....so the f uck what? |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2520
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:21:00 -
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Rian CuThalion wrote:I never said it was against the rules. Killing people is a mechanic of life doesn't mean I'll do it. It's not butthurtery it's more a moral sense for the greater good, not being little kids looking out for only themselves.
morals in a game... not sure if serious |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
24
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:24:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Just got out of a match where 10 mercs were in the mcc the only ones fighting were my squad this afk bs needs to stop it's getting out of hand Only time I ever sit in the MCC is when I need to make classes... :3 |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
699
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its on the roadmap. you know i think you might be a bigger troll then cat merc is. any word if they plan on testing vehicle balance because they haven't really fixed anything just made things worse, meaning they threw numbers out and prayed it would silence they vehicle players for long enough without testing anything. |
Rian CuThalion
D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass
34
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:35:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Rian CuThalion wrote:I never said it was against the rules. Killing people is a mechanic of life doesn't mean I'll do it. It's not butthurtery it's more a moral sense for the greater good, not being little kids looking out for only themselves. morals in a game... not sure if serious
I'm just thinking about the community. I want to facilitate the growth of this game and help, not hinder, my squad/team/corp. Not that convoluted of a concept.
All of that said everyone is entitled to their opinion. This just happens to be mine. |
echo47
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:46:00 -
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Loosing team of the match gets a % reduction in SP and isk regardless of boosters. Enough of a % to make it not worht it to AFK , problem solved.
The winning team of the match gets an isk bonus, especially for faction warfare. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
504
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:50:00 -
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Malik loves Love wrote:Ccp can't afford it. Player numbers are critically low already.
The real player numbers are already being obscured by ccp so removing afk would be a killer
No, actually, it wouldn't.
Since we don't know exactly how many people are on TQ from Dust or Eve, removing AFK becomes easier.
I'm betting things would seem more active too.
The only tell would be that you'd see the same names more often. |
Henchmen21
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:50:00 -
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I'd like to see spawning at the MCC start you in free-fall. That way they want to afk they have to do it on the ground and at least have a chance to getting killed. That and I hate mcc snipers. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
396
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:51:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Malik loves Love wrote:Ccp can't afford it. Player numbers are critically low already.
The real player numbers are already being obscured by ccp so removing afk would be a killer No, actually, it wouldn't. Since we don't know exactly how many people are on TQ from Dust or Eve, removing AFK becomes easier. I'm betting things would seem more active too. The only tell would be that you'd see the same names more often.
Yes we do.
http://eve-offline.net/ |
Shrapnels
The Order 1886
146
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:15:00 -
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when CCP stops breaking Dust514 with every patch they put out then maybe people will stop AFKing |
NoxiousMentos
Bojo's School of the Trades
45
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:19:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:I'd like to see spawning at the MCC start you in free-fall. That way they want to afk they have to do it on the ground and at least have a chance to getting killed. That and I hate mcc snipers.
MCC sniping has already been fixed.And Awesome name!! Soooo...Smurfs? lay eggs or no? |
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