DUST Search - Matchmaking System

Rinzler XVIII wrote:

Pris Straton wrote:

Buster Friently wrote:

I'm thinking the op should stay off the forums if he doesn't want comments.

An email would have been better.

Then again, logic is a bit much to expect for someone who throws a tantrum on the forums. It's like he's two with his "my first computer ".

An improved matchmaker is something we all desire, but your equivalent of holding your breath until you get your way is laughable, and troll worthy.

Now, someone please quote me Big smile

I agree

1. I asked for a reply from CCP with some idea of timescale and what they may possibly implement
2.This is Feedback/Requests , if giving negative feedback is a 'tantrum' in your eyes then there's something seriously wrong with you.
3.This isn;t the 1st time i've made this request and all the other requests were made in a nice and friendly manner merely asking for an idea of timescale which have been ignored for 6 months so asking them in a more direct way like in this post is understandable.
4.They didn;t respond to the various emails i've sent regarding the issue so again a nice request was ignored.
5.If you read something you perceive as a complaint and resort to trying to troll the person who has a complaint to try and annoy them more than they clearly must already be because they are making a complaint then there is still something clearly wrong with you.
6.You and every person who proceeds to quote your trolling after I had hidden you to stop you trolling are equally to blame for the death of this game, if a game can;t attract and keep hold of players then it will fail, If you troll people who have legitimate problems with a game that thousands of ppl share (look at the new player figures and compare it to the amount of ppl who actually play (( 4100 players at peak yesterday)) there is clearly an issue which needs resolving.

So now that I've cleared that up are you going to use that brain cell of yours and come up with some suggestions or are you going to continue trying to troll ??

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Rinzler XVIII Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:33:00 - [1] - Quote I'm going to constantly repeat this until it's fixed .. SORT MATCHMAKING OUT NOW SORT MATCHMAKING OUT NOW SORT MATCHMAKING OUT NOW SORT MATCHMAKING OUT NOW SORT MATCHMAKING OUT NOW SORT MATCHMAKING OUT NOW SORT MATCHMAKING OUT NOW SORT MATCHMAKING OUT NOW SORT MATCHMAKING OUT NOW I don;t care about anything else, pointless balancing classes when you can;t even balance game modes, did you ever think that if you balanced the game modes then there wouldn;t be as much of a problem with balance of classes because the biggest issue right now is proto ppl v new players, how can you have left it as it is for over a year when it is clearly broken (the vets wont agree but maybe they should try being on the other side of it for once) Looking at statistics of new characters created did you know that a few months ago there were 20k + characters created on a weekly basis compared to the 200-300 the stats are showing now ? Seeing as you have a player base of 4k its obvious the issue you have is not keeping new players interested, you have absolutely nothing to offer them other than improving the K/D ratio of vets .. and ppl will not play a game to be stats on someone elses character feed. You may not have an abundance of game modes but if you balanced the game modes you currently have then everyone would enjoy them more because they would be more challenging for vets to actually face other ppl at their lvl and let new players play ppl at their lvl. It's impossible for new players to go down the tank/dropship build route because as soon as its spawned they get proto swarmed/forged and at the cost those are at its far too expensive for ppl to try them out as builds as they'll need 5m sp + to even be a viable option. I've been told that supposedly it is being addressed ... that's not good enough you shouldn;t have even released the game with such a poor system .. being fobbed off with were looking into it isn;t good enough either , information, timescale ... give me some feedback I don;t want vets answering this post i want CCP to give me and all the players who've ever tried this game some answers for once as it is i'm going to make it my mission to make sure no one DL this game and plays it to save them from the disappointment and annoyance that thousands of ppl like me have gone through
Daedric Lothar Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 839	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:34:00 - [2] - Quote The problem with matchmaking is Squad play. You should join a corp.. I'm not sure, Tritan's Onslaught might maybe be recruiting.
Rinzler XVIII Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:48:00 - [3] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: The problem with matchmaking is Squad play. You should join a corp.. I'm not sure, Tritan's Onslaught might maybe be recruiting. It isnt they need to resrict certain game modes to no more than 2m sp etc you cannot have every game being new player 1msp and below v squads of proto ppl 9m sp + those games become all about the gear not skill .. when i cant kill someone i've got from behind after flanking them and emptying a clip into them and they turn round and kill me in a couple of hits you just think .. why do i even bother .. im starting to see why ppl afk in the MCC, im going to start doing it from now on .. absolutely no incentive to play the game, why waste ISK and my time when i coudl go afk and watch TV .. if the matches aren;t fun what reason do i have to play ? Solely to gain sp ... so if i can get SP without doing anything then why would i bother playing instead of going AFK ?? I already know how to play its simply a gear issue why I die .. I'll have to make it a guide for new players Go AFK in the MCC you cant do anything til at least 5m sp anyway so don;t waste your ISK to the vet blueberry stompers punish them for playing like ***** and make half of their team be AFK or failing that .. go play a better game there are plenty out there ... this might be the only way they'll fix the game for new players
Buster Friently Rosen Association 846	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:51:00 - [4] - Quote I didn't realize Tron was such a whiny little child . I thought he /it was a bad ass. I guess you really do learn something new everyday.
Daedric Lothar Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 839	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:55:00 - [5] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: I didn't realize Tron was such a whiny little child . I thought he /it was a bad ass. I guess you really do learn something new everyday. He no longer fights for the users.
Rinzler XVIII Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:04:00 - [6] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: I didn't realize Tron was such a whiny little child . I thought he /it was a bad ass. I guess you really do learn something new everyday. FYI Trying to troll me is pointless, I explicitly said in the OP I wasn't looking for any response from vets so you've already shown me that you can't read and you lack the intelligence to post something constructive so i'll ignore any further posts you make. (I selected the hide posts option below your name .. 1 less troll for me to deal with)
Buster Friently Rosen Association 846	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:13:00 - [7] - Quote I'm thinking the op should stay off the forums if he doesn't want comments. An email would have been better. Then again, logic is a bit much to expect for someone who throws a tantrum on the forums. It's like he's two with his "my first computer ". An improved matchmaker is something we all desire, but your equivalent of holding your breath until you get your way is laughable, and troll worthy. Now, someone please quote me
Pris Straton Rosen Association 1	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:14:00 - [8] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: I'm thinking the op should stay off the forums if he doesn't want comments. An email would have been better. Then again, logic is a bit much to expect for someone who throws a tantrum on the forums. It's like he's two with his "my first computer ". An improved matchmaker is something we all desire, but your equivalent of holding your breath until you get your way is laughable, and troll worthy. Now, someone please quote me I agree
Daedric Lothar Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 840	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:19:00 - [9] - Quote Pris Straton wrote: Buster Friently wrote: I'm thinking the op should stay off the forums if he doesn't want comments. An email would have been better. Then again, logic is a bit much to expect for someone who throws a tantrum on the forums. It's like he's two with his "my first computer ". An improved matchmaker is something we all desire, but your equivalent of holding your breath until you get your way is laughable, and troll worthy. Now, someone please quote me I agree Quote and +1 More Trolls to block!
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 100	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:26:00 - [10] - Quote any matchmaking system should be based on SP only and not gear, but I think its far more important to balance the gear itself than to split up the playerbase. Lastly people not in a squad need to be automatically placed in a squad after the match starts.

Buster Friently Rosen Association 847	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:28:00 - [11] - Quote Oso Peresoso wrote: any matchmaking system should be based on SP only and not gear, but I think its far more important to balance the gear itself than to split up the playerbase. Lastly people not in a squad need to be automatically placed in a squad after the match starts. Players used to be automatically added to squads, but they removed that. Someone enlighten me as to why please.
Rinzler XVIII Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:30:00 - [12] - Quote Pris Straton wrote: Buster Friently wrote: I'm thinking the op should stay off the forums if he doesn't want comments. An email would have been better. Then again, logic is a bit much to expect for someone who throws a tantrum on the forums. It's like he's two with his "my first computer ". An improved matchmaker is something we all desire, but your equivalent of holding your breath until you get your way is laughable, and troll worthy. Now, someone please quote me I agree 1. I asked for a reply from CCP with some idea of timescale and what they may possibly implement 2.This is Feedback/Requests , if giving negative feedback is a 'tantrum' in your eyes then there's something seriously wrong with you. 3.This isn;t the 1st time i've made this request and all the other requests were made in a nice and friendly manner merely asking for an idea of timescale which have been ignored for 6 months so asking them in a more direct way like in this post is understandable. 4.They didn;t respond to the various emails i've sent regarding the issue so again a nice request was ignored. 5.If you read something you perceive as a complaint and resort to trying to troll the person who has a complaint to try and annoy them more than they clearly must already be because they are making a complaint then there is still something clearly wrong with you. 6.You and every person who proceeds to quote your trolling after I had hidden you to stop you trolling are equally to blame for the death of this game, if a game can;t attract and keep hold of players then it will fail, If you troll people who have legitimate problems with a game that thousands of ppl share (look at the new player figures and compare it to the amount of ppl who actually play (( 4100 players at peak yesterday)) there is clearly an issue which needs resolving. So now that I've cleared that up are you going to use that brain cell of yours and come up with some suggestions or are you going to continue trying to troll ??
Daedric Lothar Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 840	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:31:00 - [13] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Oso Peresoso wrote: any matchmaking system should be based on SP only and not gear, but I think its far more important to balance the gear itself than to split up the playerbase. Lastly people not in a squad need to be automatically placed in a squad after the match starts. Players used to be automatically added to squads, but they removed that. Someone enlighten me as to why please. Probably from pugs filling up with trash rather then good people. I wouldn't want trash in my squad.
Daedric Lothar Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 840	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:32:00 - [14] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: So now that I've cleared that up are you going to use that brain cell of yours and come up with some suggestions or are you going to continue trying to troll ?? If you have hidden all our post, how would you tell?
Rinzler XVIII Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:38:00 - [15] - Quote Oso Peresoso wrote: any matchmaking system should be based on SP only and not gear, but I think its far more important to balance the gear itself than to split up the playerbase. Lastly people not in a squad need to be automatically placed in a squad after the match starts. I did put forward an idea of having a system like the academy only based on SP rather than WP eg Academy lv 1 - 500k - 1m sp lv 2 1m-2m lv 3 2m - 3m lv 4 3m-5m lv 5 5m-8m and then anything over that is fair game and let ppl below lvl 2 eg ppl with below 2m sp have a free respec to enable new players to tryout various weapons/builds before they commit fully to a particular role .....
Buster Friently Rosen Association 847	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:42:00 - [16] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: Pris Straton wrote: Buster Friently wrote: I'm thinking the op should stay off the forums if he doesn't want comments. An email would have been better. Then again, logic is a bit much to expect for someone who throws a tantrum on the forums. It's like he's two with his "my first computer ". An improved matchmaker is something we all desire, but your equivalent of holding your breath until you get your way is laughable, and troll worthy. Now, someone please quote me I agree 1. I asked for a reply from CCP with some idea of timescale and what they may possibly implement 2.This is Feedback/Requests , if giving negative feedback is a 'tantrum' in your eyes then there's something seriously wrong with you. 3.This isn;t the 1st time i've made this request and all the other requests were made in a nice and friendly manner merely asking for an idea of timescale which have been ignored for 6 months so asking them in a more direct way like in this post is understandable. 4.They didn;t respond to the various emails i've sent regarding the issue so again a nice request was ignored. 5.If you read something you perceive as a complaint and resort to trying to troll the person who has a complaint to try and annoy them more than they clearly must already be because they are making a complaint then there is still something clearly wrong with you. 6.You and every person who proceeds to quote your trolling after I had hidden you to stop you trolling are equally to blame for the death of this game, if a game can;t attract and keep hold of players then it will fail, If you troll people who have legitimate problems with a game that thousands of ppl share (look at the new player figures and compare it to the amount of ppl who actually play (( 4100 players at peak yesterday)) there is clearly an issue which needs resolving. So now that I've cleared that up are you going to use that brain cell of yours and come up with some suggestions or are you going to continue trying to troll ?? I thought you blocked me. They aren't required to respond. You aren't as important as you think you are. A request/suggestion Is different from a rant. This is a rant. The game isn't going to die, we're just losing the trash. I've already said a better matchmaking system would be a good thing for Dust. Elsewhere, I've even called it essential. Notice I didn't threaten CCP or attempt to pretend I'm super important around here. Does telling the truth count as trolling now? I guess it does in your childish world.
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 76	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:42:00 - [17] - Quote post on your main so i know who to t-bag p.s i dont roll proto anything but might make an exception
Rinzler XVIII Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:44:00 - [18] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: So now that I've cleared that up are you going to use that brain cell of yours and come up with some suggestions or are you going to continue trying to troll ?? If you have hidden all our post, how would you tell? Posts are hidden but if a post is made and i can still choose whether to read it or not PS I'll post this thread all over the forums and try and get it out to new players that if you have any problems with the game and bring them up all that will happen is CCP will ignore you and the Vets will troll you
Buster Friently Rosen Association 847	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:47:00 - [19] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: Daedric Lothar wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: So now that I've cleared that up are you going to use that brain cell of yours and come up with some suggestions or are you going to continue trying to troll ?? If you have hidden all our post, how would you tell? Posts are hidden but if a post is made and i can still choose whether to read it or not PS I'll post this thread all over the forums and try and get it out to new players that if you have any problems with the game and bring them up all that will happen is CCP will ignore you and the Vets will troll you See, there you go threatening again. Is this how you get your way with mommy? If you actually did read these posts, you'd see that there is support for better matchmaking among the community. There isn't support for mindless ranting.
nukel head Knights of No Republic 36	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:47:00 - [20] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: I didn't realize Tron was such a whiny little child . I thought he /it was a bad ass. I guess you really do learn something new everyday. He is angry, and it's understandable. The current matchmaking (or lack of) is killing the game for new players. Even as an experienced player it is not fun to be on the team that redlines the enemy and there is nothing to do until the MCC is whittled down. It's also no fun to be one of the only experienced players on a team of blueberries that are getting destroyed by a q-synched proto stack. I can imagine it's far worse BEING a new player and having no hope of daylight until you grind out a few million SP.

Buster Friently Rosen Association 847	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:56:00 - [21] - Quote nukel head wrote: Buster Friently wrote: I didn't realize Tron was such a whiny little child . I thought he /it was a bad ass. I guess you really do learn something new everyday. He is angry, and it's understandable. The current matchmaking (or lack of) is killing the game for new players. Even as an experienced player it is not fun to be on the team that redlines the enemy and there is nothing to do until the MCC is whittled down. It's also no fun to be one of the only experienced players on a team of blueberries that are getting destroyed by a q-synched proto stack. I can imagine it's far worse BEING a new player and having no hope of daylight until you grind out a few million SP. I agree that we need better matchmaking. CCP agrees. Things take time. Throwing a tantrum on the forums doesn't speed anything up, it just makes the poster look immature.
Rinzler XVIII Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:59:00 - [22] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: post on your main so i know who to t-bag p.s i dont roll proto anything but might make an exception Are you a sniper or a dropship driver? ..If the answer is neither at proto lvl then I seriously doubt you'll be tea bagging my main any time soon You realise the reason i'm so passionate about this problem is because i got 12 freinds to DL and start playing the game and they all left within a week of being roflstomped constantly right ?? We all rolled on Aion doing fort wars pvp etc etc together for years and because i liked this game i wanted them to play this as well but that completely failed because the matchmaking is so against new players its embarrassing .. unlike you I know 1st hand the issues this game has and above all else matchmaking is the problem, i stopped using my main because i genuinely feel me stomping new players all the time will turn them away and kill this game off, there HAS to be a seperation, this is a game it's supposed to be fun for all not just the vets but alot of ppl seem to forget that including CCP
Rinzler XVIII Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:03:00 - [23] - Quote nukel head wrote: Buster Friently wrote: I didn't realize Tron was such a whiny little child . I thought he /it was a bad ass. I guess you really do learn something new everyday. He is angry, and it's understandable. The current matchmaking (or lack of) is killing the game for new players. Even as an experienced player it is not fun to be on the team that redlines the enemy and there is nothing to do until the MCC is whittled down. It's also no fun to be one of the only experienced players on a team of blueberries that are getting destroyed by a q-synched proto stack. I can imagine it's far worse BEING a new player and having no hope of daylight until you grind out a few million SP. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Finally someone who understands !!! I take my hat off to you


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