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Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.07.02 21:53:00 -
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Why do we only receive points for being near a defend target and helping him take down an enemy. I propose points for following capture orders and attack orders and a new option in the command wheel to put the selected order on your self which will save time from opening the map.
Attack orders - War points will be gained by killing the target with the attack order on it. The bigger the target killed the more war points you will earn. Mercenary kill +10 war points, LAV kill +15 war points, Dropship kill +25 war points, Tank kill +50 war points. I like placing attack orders on targets like tanks then seeing that target get hammered but dislike not receiving any extra war points for issuing this order.
Capture Order - Capture orders are hard to be spammed unless you have two people on opposite teams constantly recapturing two structures like a CRU or installation. Installation/structure captures +10 war points, Null cannon capture +25 war points.
Putting order on self - At the moment we have to go to the map to place an order on our self we should be able to select the wanted order from the squad wheel then have a second option in the squad wheel by the cancel option to place the order on our self. This is less dangerous because it does not take your eyes away from the battlefield.
Thanks you
Eris Ernaga
War point gain is changeable based on what CCP thinks is fair. At the moment all people do is farm war points for defend orders I like placing attack orders on high priority targets or putting a capture order on the Null cannon I want to be hacked but see no point because we do not gain war points. Giving war points will put these order in line with the defend order and give them a point battles. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:19:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Why do we only receive points for being near a defend target and helping him take down an enemy. I propose points for following capture orders and attack orders and a new option in the command wheel to put the selected order on your self which will save time from opening the map.
Attack orders - War points will be gained by killing the target with the attack order on it. The bigger the target killed the more war points you will earn. Mercenary kill +10 war points, LAV kill +15 war points, Dropship kill +25 war points, Tank kill +50 war points. I like placing attack orders on targets like tanks then seeing that target get hammered but dislike not receiving any extra war points for issuing this order.
Capture Order - Capture orders are hard to be spammed unless you have two people on opposite teams constantly recapturing two structures like a CRU or installation. Installation/structure captures +10 war points, Null cannon capture +25 war points.
Putting order on self - At the moment we have to go to the map to place an order on our self we should be able to select the wanted order from the squad wheel then have a second option in the squad wheel by the cancel option to place the order on our self. This is less dangerous because it does not take your eyes away from the battlefield.
Thanks you
Eris Ernaga
War point gain is changeable based on what CCP thinks is fair. At the moment all people do is farm war points for defend orders I like placing attack orders on high priority targets or putting a capture order on the Null cannon I want to be hacked but see no point because we do not gain war points. Giving war points will put these order in line with the defend order and give them a point battles.
1. There are bonuses for kill (in my experience)
2. There are bonuses for capture (in my experience)
3. I like this suggestion
4. Defend orders are placed most often because they are mobile
5. Squad leaders get no bonus SP for captureing/killing/etc because you are the one awarded the kills with the OB's and the points from those kills (not sure if this is what is happening, just saying this because your post reads from the squad leader perspective, not the squad member perspective) |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:33:00 -
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If the Overview Map loaded faster and Squad Orders could be issued more intuitively from it, I'd never use the wheel selection again unless I need to throw up a defend order on a point right in front of me.
The general hassle currently for both KBM and DS3 users to place orders at long range is annoying at best.
Also, sometimes I have placed defend orders on a squaddie and later in the match when I die, I come back and the order is no where to be seen, so I reallocate it when it was still fine on that previous squad member. Not sure if it's meant to happen like that; perhaps long-range TACNET communication is limited. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
255
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:35:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Why do we only receive points for being near a defend target and helping him take down an enemy. I propose points for following capture orders and attack orders and a new option in the command wheel to put the selected order on your self which will save time from opening the map.
Attack orders - War points will be gained by killing the target with the attack order on it. The bigger the target killed the more war points you will earn. Mercenary kill +10 war points, LAV kill +15 war points, Dropship kill +25 war points, Tank kill +50 war points. I like placing attack orders on targets like tanks then seeing that target get hammered but dislike not receiving any extra war points for issuing this order.
Capture Order - Capture orders are hard to be spammed unless you have two people on opposite teams constantly recapturing two structures like a CRU or installation. Installation/structure captures +10 war points, Null cannon capture +25 war points.
Putting order on self - At the moment we have to go to the map to place an order on our self we should be able to select the wanted order from the squad wheel then have a second option in the squad wheel by the cancel option to place the order on our self. This is less dangerous because it does not take your eyes away from the battlefield.
Thanks you
Eris Ernaga
War point gain is changeable based on what CCP thinks is fair. At the moment all people do is farm war points for defend orders I like placing attack orders on high priority targets or putting a capture order on the Null cannon I want to be hacked but see no point because we do not gain war points. Giving war points will put these order in line with the defend order and give them a point battles. 1. There are bonuses for kill (in my experience) 2. There are bonuses for capture (in my experience) 3. I like this suggestion 4. Defend orders are placed most often because they are mobile 5. Squad leaders get no bonus SP for captureing/killing/etc because you are the one awarded the kills with the OB's and the points from those kills (not sure if this is what is happening, just saying this because your post reads from the squad leader perspective, not the squad member perspective)
When following a order squad commission is given to all players (I think) now that I think about it i'm not 100% clear on the system either so sorry but I think the main additional war points are given to the one with the order on him all other get squad commission. But no captures and kill orders don't give war points. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1049
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:50:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Why do we only receive points for being near a defend target and helping him take down an enemy. I propose points for following capture orders and attack orders and a new option in the command wheel to put the selected order on your self which will save time from opening the map.
Attack orders - War points will be gained by killing the target with the attack order on it. The bigger the target killed the more war points you will earn. Mercenary kill +10 war points, LAV kill +15 war points, Dropship kill +25 war points, Tank kill +50 war points. I like placing attack orders on targets like tanks then seeing that target get hammered but dislike not receiving any extra war points for issuing this order.
Capture Order - Capture orders are hard to be spammed unless you have two people on opposite teams constantly recapturing two structures like a CRU or installation. Installation/structure captures +10 war points, Null cannon capture +25 war points.
Putting order on self - At the moment we have to go to the map to place an order on our self we should be able to select the wanted order from the squad wheel then have a second option in the squad wheel by the cancel option to place the order on our self. This is less dangerous because it does not take your eyes away from the battlefield.
Thanks you
Eris Ernaga
War point gain is changeable based on what CCP thinks is fair. At the moment all people do is farm war points for defend orders I like placing attack orders on high priority targets or putting a capture order on the Null cannon I want to be hacked but see no point because we do not gain war points. Giving war points will put these order in line with the defend order and give them a point battles. 1. There are bonuses for kill (in my experience) 2. There are bonuses for capture (in my experience) 3. I like this suggestion 4. Defend orders are placed most often because they are mobile 5. Squad leaders get no bonus SP for captureing/killing/etc because you are the one awarded the kills with the OB's and the points from those kills (not sure if this is what is happening, just saying this because your post reads from the squad leader perspective, not the squad member perspective) When following a order squad commission is given to all players (I think) now that I think about it i'm not 100% clear on the system either so sorry but I think the main additional war points are given to the one with the order on him all other get squad commission. But no captures and kill orders don't give war points.
The orders are given to all, but the squad leader does not benefit when they do something to achieve the order. Think of this is a team buff - in most games team buffs apply to all but those that give them. Same here. To compensate for that, the squad leader is the one who calls in the orbital strikes. When you call these in, in placed right, can give large number of kills (and the 50 WP per kill) at one time. The commissions go to the squad leader, but they are minimal (they used to be must more butch, but it was nerfed and rightly so).
But the kill/capture orders do get you war point as well (in my experience).
If I am in a squad as a member, and the leader gives a command to kill/capture/destroy, if I kill a red dot near where the order is placed, I get a bonus on my kill as it is counted toward achieving the objective. If I killed a red dot, I get 60 WP instead of 50; If I capture the objective with the capture order, and it is a null cannon, I get 120 instead of 100, etc. |
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