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Delta 749 wrote:

TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:

Delta 749 wrote:

Yeah, spending time messing around with the female toons walking animations was a pressing matter the entire playerbase could get behind and support

I see what you did there. I also see that you forgot to include in your reply:

* Chat channels with more than 50 users (mercenaries or capsuleers) will now operate in delayed chat mode
* Improved speed of RDV vehicle delivery as well as applied tweaks to the RDV AI
* Improved server to client performance of projectile based weaponry
* Characters can now transfer ISK directly between each other and to any corporation
* Directors can now transfer ISK from the corporation mercenary wallet to any player or corporation
* Added SSAO
* Improved lighting & shadows
* Improved UI rendering performance
* Improved content streaming stability
* Improvements to the vehicle icons and driver name tags display
* Upward thrust not working when in first person view for dropships
* Ground speed limit being ignored has been fixed
* Fixed mail list, now player can roll down to bottom of the list to load up to 1500 latest emails
* Now the weapon switcher will display the remaining number of deployable equipment
* Now the MCC hit point indicator on spawn page will display in correct color, red for enemy and blue for friendly
* Unified the font case in several NEOCOM pages
* General UI polishing on NECOM pages and HUD
* Fixed multiple UI related issues
* New material types for ladders and snow
* New UI sounds
* Moment-to-moment audio improvements
* More information on taking hits
* 3rd person reload sounds
* Memory and CPU optimizations
* Fix ducking problem on killing enemies
* Fix echo problem in Biomass
* An issue where voice was not available for certain very old chat channels has been fixed
* Smooth sound of LAVs in the distance
* Manus Peak - fixed the issue where MCC shield would let bullets through
* Fixed navigation issue regarding movement along vertical covers/walls
* Fixed client/server mismatch on equipment deployment locations
* Fixed aiming friction on turrets when pitching so it is correctly applied
* Improvements to location of fallen character for revive
* Fixed slight misalignment with forge gun projectile
* Implemented logging out character from NeoCom

And this isn't even the full list of patch notes, these are just fixes. I could've included all of the new content and features, but this thread is talking mostly about core mechanics.

But of course, you had to zero in on one thing and pick it apart. Classic.

Ok you want to talk pressing issues and not just one
Lets talk ****** up level geometry
Broken hit detection
Hell my original post wasnt even zeroing in on a single problem, its pointing out a flaw in your argument about them fixing lots of things the playerbase really cared about when the most pressing issues fell by the wayside and bringing up just one example of a team not working on some actual pressing **** thats within their ability to fix and instead working on some fluff

I said earlier in this thread that this patch was throwing bread to the rioting roman masses, most of the things in this current patch are just that
Little tweaks that some people will drop to their knees and fellate CCP for while some serious core game breaking issues just sit there like an infected wound


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Poplo Furuya Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 147	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:06:00 - [1] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Yeah, spending time messing around with the female toons walking animations was a pressing matter the entire playerbase could get behind and support I see what you did there. I also see that you forgot to include in your reply: * Chat channels with more than 50 users (mercenaries or capsuleers) will now operate in delayed chat mode * Improved speed of RDV vehicle delivery as well as applied tweaks to the RDV AI * Improved server to client performance of projectile based weaponry * Characters can now transfer ISK directly between each other and to any corporation * Directors can now transfer ISK from the corporation mercenary wallet to any player or corporation * Added SSAO * Improved lighting & shadows * Improved UI rendering performance * Improved content streaming stability * Improvements to the vehicle icons and driver name tags display * Upward thrust not working when in first person view for dropships * Ground speed limit being ignored has been fixed * Fixed mail list, now player can roll down to bottom of the list to load up to 1500 latest emails * Now the weapon switcher will display the remaining number of deployable equipment * Now the MCC hit point indicator on spawn page will display in correct color, red for enemy and blue for friendly * Unified the font case in several NEOCOM pages * General UI polishing on NECOM pages and HUD * Fixed multiple UI related issues * New material types for ladders and snow * New UI sounds * Moment-to-moment audio improvements * More information on taking hits * 3rd person reload sounds * Memory and CPU optimizations * Fix ducking problem on killing enemies * Fix echo problem in Biomass * An issue where voice was not available for certain very old chat channels has been fixed * Smooth sound of LAVs in the distance * Manus Peak - fixed the issue where MCC shield would let bullets through * Fixed navigation issue regarding movement along vertical covers/walls * Fixed client/server mismatch on equipment deployment locations * Fixed aiming friction on turrets when pitching so it is correctly applied * Improvements to location of fallen character for revive * Fixed slight misalignment with forge gun projectile * Implemented logging out character from NeoCom And this isn't even the full list of patch notes, these are just fixes. I could've included all of the new content and features, but this thread is talking mostly about core mechanics. But of course, you had to zero in on one thing and pick it apart. Classic. Performance updates are wonderful things, here's hoping they pan out good when it goes live. Fixed aiming friction on turrets... wouldn't get hopes up too high but this may mean gunning on moving vehicles will become far more viable. Heh, this one: * Upward thrust not working when in first person view for dropships ...is phrased as if it's the deliberate introduction of a bug to dropships instead of a fix. Just mentions the problem. Improved server to client projectile performance may throw a bone to MD users, will have to see how significant it is. There is a lot here which could really see things on the up and up. I think we can wait just 1 day to see how it all plays out first before we start ripping it apart.
Poplo Furuya Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 147	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:28:00 - [2] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Yeah, spending time messing around with the female toons walking animations was a pressing matter the entire playerbase could get behind and support I see what you did there. I also see that you forgot to include in your reply: * Chat channels with more than 50 users (mercenaries or capsuleers) will now operate in delayed chat mode * Improved speed of RDV vehicle delivery as well as applied tweaks to the RDV AI * Improved server to client performance of projectile based weaponry * Characters can now transfer ISK directly between each other and to any corporation * Directors can now transfer ISK from the corporation mercenary wallet to any player or corporation * Added SSAO * Improved lighting & shadows * Improved UI rendering performance * Improved content streaming stability * Improvements to the vehicle icons and driver name tags display * Upward thrust not working when in first person view for dropships * Ground speed limit being ignored has been fixed * Fixed mail list, now player can roll down to bottom of the list to load up to 1500 latest emails * Now the weapon switcher will display the remaining number of deployable equipment * Now the MCC hit point indicator on spawn page will display in correct color, red for enemy and blue for friendly * Unified the font case in several NEOCOM pages * General UI polishing on NECOM pages and HUD * Fixed multiple UI related issues * New material types for ladders and snow * New UI sounds * Moment-to-moment audio improvements * More information on taking hits * 3rd person reload sounds * Memory and CPU optimizations * Fix ducking problem on killing enemies * Fix echo problem in Biomass * An issue where voice was not available for certain very old chat channels has been fixed * Smooth sound of LAVs in the distance * Manus Peak - fixed the issue where MCC shield would let bullets through * Fixed navigation issue regarding movement along vertical covers/walls * Fixed client/server mismatch on equipment deployment locations * Fixed aiming friction on turrets when pitching so it is correctly applied * Improvements to location of fallen character for revive * Fixed slight misalignment with forge gun projectile * Implemented logging out character from NeoCom And this isn't even the full list of patch notes, these are just fixes. I could've included all of the new content and features, but this thread is talking mostly about core mechanics. But of course, you had to zero in on one thing and pick it apart. Classic. Ok you want to talk pressing issues and not just one Lets talk **** up level geometry Broken hit detection Hell my original post wasnt even zeroing in on a single problem, its pointing out a flaw in your argument about them fixing lots of things the playerbase really cared about when the most pressing issues fell by the wayside and bringing up just one example of a team not working on some actual pressing ** thats within their ability to fix and instead working on some fluff I said earlier in this thread that this patch was throwing bread to the rioting roman masses, most of the things in this current patch are just that Little tweaks that some people will drop to their knees and fellate CCP for while some serious core game breaking issues just sit there like an infected wound Part of it is fixes to core mechanics. Performance boosts are a big deal, as is bringing the client and server projectile calculations in line. As the 1st 'rapid-fire' update I reckon this might be doing far more than I was expecting. We'll have to wait till tomorrow before we can begin a proper appraisal. Honestly I'd rate hit detection and the like as secondary to a proper game mode with good map design. I'm happy to hear about Skirmish 3.0 in the works. Could Dust have done with having it half a year ago? Yes. At least we have word of it now, can only hope it's not an underdesigned exercise in mediocrity like 2.0 is. Might very well finally integrate vehicles into the game properly, introduce a greater symbiotic relation between them and infantry. Edit: Basically I'd rather have a good game that runs poorly than a mediocre one which runs flawlessly.