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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:22:00 -
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I kept track of the reasons of death for 130 matches. I died a total of 205 times. It is as follows: 6% Spawn deaths 27% LLAV's 23% Free LAV's 15% Flaylock's 11% Assault rifles 11% Snipers 2% mysterious deaths (Deaths that I have no explanation towards, just died out of nowhere) + RDV's 5% other (Every other possible cause of death)
This is rounded up to make nice numbers.
Pie chart using accurate numbers coming Soon(TM) |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:30:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Scrambler rifle aint up there? Fo' realsies? yup It's among the "other" |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1278
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:30:00 -
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Azura Sakura wrote:Do yo run proto? Yes, too much money to care lol |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1278
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:33:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Things missing:
HMG FG ScR LR SP SMG MD SG RE Installation Turret Grenades HAV DS
I'd like to see the percentages on these. These are all among the other. The numbers are too small to give them their own spot. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1278
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:35:00 -
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Added pie chart |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:36:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Do you even lift? Sorry, that's how this quote read to me, though he's probably asking an honest question. Azura Sakura wrote:Do yo run proto? Anyways, 50% of deaths caused by getting run over. I'm glad that they're maybe only abotu 15% of my deaths. However, I guess it's still a comment on the state of the game because there are enough LAVs driving around for you to die 100 times to them in 130 matches, though that's only 1.3 deaths per match to LAVs. Some matches have maps where LAV's don't pose a problem. Others I see 6 LLAV's running around. So it's more than 1.3 per match. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1278
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:37:00 -
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You would be surprised how much I try to dodge LAV's. However this just puts into prespective the state of them game, where a vehicle running over you is around 50% of your deaths. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1279
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:42:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Assault Rifles top my list of things that most commonly kill me. AR's don't pose a challenge to me for some reason. My only deaths with an AR is when I get swarmed by people. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1279
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:42:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You would be surprised how much I try to dodge LAV's. However this just puts into prespective the state of them game, where a vehicle running over you is around 50% of your deaths. this proves my point that you go out of your way to find LAVs to kill you. They find me : < |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1286
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:50:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ladwar wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You would be surprised how much I try to dodge LAV's. However this just puts into prespective the state of them game, where a vehicle running over you is around 50% of your deaths. this proves my point that you go out of your way to find LAVs to kill you. They find me : < just like the bunnies.. Ninja bunnies... |
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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1286
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Posted - 2013.06.30 00:55:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:list of things that kill me 99%=falling 1%=overheating scrambler rifle
-Scout |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1287
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:24:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Spademan wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Spademan wrote:Scrambler rifle aint up there? Fo' realsies? yup It's among the "other" Aye but I meant as a seperate entity. Suprises me, I typically see a fair amount of deaths by them in games. He's armor tanking which might contribute. Nah, SCR is still deadly even against armor. I just have a tactic I developed to make them overheat their weapon. It may or may not involve bunny hopping. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1287
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:35:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Wow you must suck at dodging LAVs. Because you can dodge 3 LAV's chasing you while having a fire fight with two people? I tought so. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1289
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:43:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Wow you must suck at dodging LAVs. Because you can dodge 3 LAV's chasing you while having a fire fight with two people? I tought so. No I use what you call a SWARM LAUNCHER. Oh and AV grenades. Also that accounts for one incident what about the others? Bro, all of my suits use proto AV. LLAV's eat up all 3 and still stay alive. So you want me to take on 3?
You are defending bad design. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1289
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:43:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Should have used two reppers.
Enhanced plates suit when you stack them. I am using two complex reppers.... |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1289
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:44:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:I'm sorry, but this data is obviously fake.
Everyone knows cats only have nine lives, geez, simple animal biology, guys! Your corp name.... I hate you. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1297
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Posted - 2013.06.30 11:25:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I kept track of the reasons of death for 130 matches. I died a total of 205 times. It is as follows: 6% Spawn deaths 27% LLAV's 23% Free LAV's 15% Flaylock's 11% Assault rifles 11% Snipers 2% mysterious deaths (Deaths that I have no explanation towards, just died out of nowhere) + RDV's 5% other (Every other possible cause of death) This is rounded up to make nice numbers. My fit for all of these matches (I wanted to keep it consistant so I used one suit): Assault gk.0 Duvolle AR 2x Complex damage mod 1x Enhanced damage mod 1x Basic Plate 1x Enhanced plate 2x Complex armor repairer 1x Nanohive 1x Proto AV Grenade Pie chart using accurate numbers coming Soon(TM) Edit: Ze glorious and awesomesauce pie chart I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on this. First, no grenade deaths at all? No deaths from the scrambler rifle, pistol, MD (I can believe), Shotgun, remote explosives? These were all, combined, less that 5%? You had more spawn deaths than all these combined? What's a spawn death anyway? No deaths from orbitals, no kills from turrets or HAVs, or HMG? Hmmmm.. All of that, all of that constituted just 10 kills? When I watch the kill feed I see mostly ARs, then maybe scramblers, usually some runovers, some HAV kills, some orbitals, etc. Maybe, but it seems odd. This doesn't match up to what I experience, though I haven't done the data collection that the OP suggests he did. Luckily, CCP records all this information for all fights, and so, they will know what's up. I don't know what to tell you, I just don't die to these weapons. Also I tend to separate from the mass of blue berries so orbitals don't hit me usually.
The fact that you die from these or the majority die from it doesn't mean I die from it. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1298
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Posted - 2013.06.30 11:39:00 -
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DumpsterJuice wrote:What a derp, sounds like you need to look before crossing the street noob Pfft, IRL I have regenerating 9 lives, so I am immortal. This game puts me in the boots of a human. Damn humans. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1300
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Posted - 2013.06.30 12:28:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:I think some people seem to have missed the fact that your KD for these matches was less than 2 and that's pretty decent. Even in proto gear you probably turned a healthy profit.
Now, what would be more helpful statistics is if you charted the kills for every death on both sides of every battle over those 130 matches. Too much work :P |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1301
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Posted - 2013.06.30 12:44:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:op is false, and he knows it. Do you have proof other than "I am killed by something, everyone else must be killed by that thing the same amount!" |
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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1302
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Posted - 2013.06.30 13:01:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Jin Robot wrote:op is false, and he knows it. Do you have proof other than "I am killed by something, everyone else must be killed by that thing the same amount!" not proof, its just obvious these "stats" are false. Whelp, believe what you want. This is my record of my deaths in 130 matches, like it or not this shows the game is heavily flawed. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1306
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Posted - 2013.06.30 13:25:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Cat Merc wrote: Whelp, believe what you want. This is my record of my deaths in 130 matches, like it or not this shows the game is heavily flawed.
Nope, it shows you don't know how to cross the street, or how to take out LAVs. 3x Complex Proto AV, I always carry those with me. Please tell me how am I supposed to take out an LLAV that if I am lucky enough to get all of my Proto AV hit him, he still has plenty of shields and armor.
And I know how to cross a road, because I wouldn't be talking here if I didn't, I would be either in a coffin or in the hospital >_> |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1306
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Posted - 2013.06.30 13:44:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:How sad it is to be a lonely wolf and not work as a team, where one would be an AV with swarm launchers guarding the advancing infrantry.....
If only one person would be a dedicated AV instead of a bunch of people carrying granades, i wonder what would happen to dust karters.
Perhaps we-Šll never know. Already tried that. LLAV's eat swarms for breakfast. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1308
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Posted - 2013.06.30 14:05:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Natu Nobilis wrote:How sad it is to be a lonely wolf and not work as a team, where one would be an AV with swarm launchers guarding the advancing infrantry.....
If only one person would be a dedicated AV instead of a bunch of people carrying granades, i wonder what would happen to dust karters.
Perhaps we-Šll never know. Already tried that. LLAV's eat swarms for breakfast. They eat dedicated 3x complex mods, proximity explosive, AV granaded players that investes in av skills, to the point where don-Št even flinch or have to retreat? Or resist 2 free anti armor fits at once? I must say i find this very very hard to believe. (I have a full AV fit that brings down tanks) I use 3x Complex Damage mods on my AV fit. I know not to cheap out on AV fits, I was half dedicated AV last build so I know how much effort it takes to take down a tank. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1319
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:00:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:"15% Flaylock's 11% Assault rifles"
I don't believe that even in the slightest. You're a Caldari. Of course you won't. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1324
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:49:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:"15% Flaylock's 11% Assault rifles"
I don't believe that even in the slightest. This is one of the data points that I think points to falsified data. Either that or a very odd death profile. Either way, these data have nothing to say about the game at large because of this. Don't believe it. AR isn't a problem for me as I tend to stay far away and only engage when I see a clear oppurtunity. However, people tend to sneak up on me with the flaylock and kill me faster than I can turn to their way. Are you EU or US? |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1324
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:50:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote: This... 130 matches would give around 1000 data points if the entire kill feed was taken. That's enough to get a decent average.
You know what? I will work on it as soon as I get a capture device. I was planning on getting one anyway. Once I have all the data I will compile it. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1324
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:54:00 -
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Just to put it into prespective. The flaylock can fire off two shots very quickly. My proto Gallente suit dies from two splash shots if the user has any damage skills put into the weapon. Otherwise its three shots. I usually only have enough time to turn around to face the person before I die. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1325
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:01:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:"15% Flaylock's 11% Assault rifles"
I don't believe that even in the slightest. This is one of the data points that I think points to falsified data. Either that or a very odd death profile. Either way, these data have nothing to say about the game at large because of this. Don't believe it. AR isn't a problem for me as I tend to stay far away and only engage when I see a clear oppurtunity. However, people tend to sneak up on me with the flaylock and kill me faster than I can turn to their way. Are you EU or US? I am US. Then this might be the problem. I am EU, it is very possible that the people in the EU servers use Flaylocks more than the US. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1329
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Posted - 2013.06.30 18:05:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Provolonee wrote:I recorded deaths from the Kill feed Just before the TAR nerf. The data is a bit old, but it is interesting to see the fall of the TAR and the Rise of the FP. Kills across 7 matches: -AR --269 -TAR --143 -Scrambler Rifle --37 Assault ScR -- 20 MD --13 SG --19 SMG --56 sPistol--11 Snipe--110 Vehicle--80 Vehicle turrets -- 24 Lasers -- 1 Flalock pistol-- 4 grenade -- 33 remote explosives --2 AntiVehicle --57 nova Knife -- 8 HMG --59
The TAR isn't used as much now, did those numbers get moved to the FP? No, his numbers are skewed. TAR users aren't FP users. Most of the MD users have moved to FP though, and probably many of the SG users. I think most of the TAR users went to AR or SR. These numbers seem much more like what I still see minus the TAR kills. Also, we haven't discussed game mode have we? I play exclusively (or almost) skirmish. This was all from ambush for consistancy. And don't go around claiming my numbers are skewed if you don't have proof, because they aren't. |
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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1330
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Posted - 2013.06.30 18:35:00 -
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VicBoss wrote:Most of this makes sense, your armor tanking so explosives will do more, you don't have any kin cats and your losing speed from armor plates so being run over is a problem, but please explain to me how you get killed by free LAV's that much with proto AV nades..... Most of them kill me when I'm focused on an enemy. Even then, it takes 2 to destroy an LAV. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1347
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:32:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:What would be really cool to see is taking video of 100 matches, and counting everything in the kill feed.
However.. pub matches are a really bad metric to balance from. PC matches are where weapon balancing really should take place.
I hope CCP has a way of distinguishing weapon performance in PC vs IB... ill bet the metrics look completely different. Duvolle AR all the way! |
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