So I launch an attack and it shows up an hour later to start figthing for Relays. And the district could have 6 of them, and I have to kill all 6 relay sites to start a battle for the district. Since there is only a 1 hour delay, what if the opponent no shows, do I have to fight in 6 no show battles before opening up the district in 24 hours? it seems to me that someone would not use these at all unless it was a supermassive corp that constantly had a 16+ person presence 24/7.

So then the battle begins and I can take out Generators, Skyfire batteries and/or run Ambush/Skirmish. How does Skyfire batteries affect Skirmish/Ambush play if I decide to play Skirmish instead of going after 1 of the batteries? You talk about having 4 battles queued. How would that would, do I need 64 players ready to go? or do I just need 16 to do 4 battles in a row? If its 16 for 4 battles in a row then that doesn't sound bad and I would definately support this.

However. I may also suggest this.

About 3 months ago I posed another idea where PC happens in 3 stages, 3 seperate battles that can happen one right after another. If the attacker wins all 3 then they win no matter if the defender has 10,000 clones or not. If the attacker loses then they are pushed back a stage and have to do the stage over. If either side runs out of clones then the match is failed/won automatically, if the attackers MCC blows up then the attack is failed.

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Stage 1 the MCC hovers over the district in the upper atmosphere and mercs can jump out down to the ground or be given a ride in drop ships. All the assets you described were all already in place on the field, there would be skyfire batteries and shield generators. In the first stage the mercs would need to disable the Skyfire batteries to keep the MCC from being blown up in the upper atmosphere, but they would also need to disable the shields to allow EVE support and to give themselves more locations to land. (No WP required to fire, EVE can liquidate unshielded ground targets, but the MCC would require time to recharge shots) Also note that Skyfire batteriers would either have to be captured or destroyed. To be captured then you must capture 3 control points (CPU, Security Lockout & Generator) without all 3 the others can shut down your control. However if you own 1 of the points that particular battery cannot fire. The battery itself can only be destoyed via Vehicles or orbital strikes, but you have to remove the shields to allow them to be struck orbitally.

Stage 2: Once the shields and Skyfire batteries were disabled the MCC comes down to the ground. At this point there are different shield generators and also Null cannons ready to stop the attackers, this stage works kinda like Skirmish 1.0. The MCC slowly moves forward and the attackers must blow up shield generators. If the attackers blow up the generators then the defenders are open to being bombed by EVE and must retreat. Also the MCC would act like a mobile shield generator and would protect the attackers from defensive strikes, but defensive EVE strikes would also damage the MCC shield, so Air superiority is important. Once the shield generators are down, the attackers can take out the Null Cannons.

Stage 3: Once the Null cannons are down the MCC would fire a burst which would open the way to the defender's underground bunker where the attackers would have to capture the enemies last CRU deep underground. This battle would be a slaughter fest with narrow side tunnels for flanks and a large main tunnel for vehicle support. No EVE support can be used here. This battle is where someone is very likely to run out of clones. This battle is also very important Lore wire. With so much firepower available to space ships, people would be foolish not to bury their main bases below ground where ground forces are required to root them out. If there are no underground bases, there are no reason for ground forces because you could just ALWAYS orb strike your way to victory (In a RP sense)

Honestly both of these your ideas could be combined espicially your stage 3 with his step 5 my only thing is I want there to be a way for this to be done within 2 hours once the actual battle starts instead of 2 days

While I absolutely love this idea, I do think that there is still room for the current PC system - maybe for smaller, less valuable districts. PC lite if you will.

Actually, both ideas don't have to be used seperately. His idea is very complex and can be used for LARGE corporation warfare. CCP said they would have PC for both smaller and bigger corps. My idea is very streamlined and could be used for SMALLER - MEDIUM corporation warfare. Skirmish 1.0 (My stage 2) could be used for TINY corporation warfare.

one idea can go for PC the other FW

So I launch an attack and it shows up an hour later to start figthing for Relays. And the district could have 6 of them, and I have to kill all 6 relay sites to start a battle for the district. Since there is only a 1 hour delay, what if the opponent no shows, do I have to fight in 6 no show battles before opening up the district in 24 hours? it seems to me that someone would not use these at all unless it was a supermassive corp that constantly had a 16+ person presence 24/7.

So then the battle begins and I can take out Generators, Skyfire batteries and/or run Ambush/Skirmish. How does Skyfire batteries affect Skirmish/Ambush play if I decide to play Skirmish instead of going after 1 of the batteries? You talk about having 4 battles queued. How would that would, do I need 64 players ready to go? or do I just need 16 to do 4 battles in a row? If its 16 for 4 battles in a row then that doesn't sound bad and I would definately support this.

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I revised the proposal above to make things simpler. Mainly, I dropped the GÇ£customizationGÇ¥ part and set it so that every District has 3x Shield Relays. This means 3 battles to knock the District into reinforced. Much less. .

As for the no show, thatGÇÖs a problem still. Personally, I think that loading into a PC battle should be different. The battle should have a GÇ£deploy timeGÇ¥ at which if a side is missing people they are filled in from the Mercenary Tab (Just like FW). To get in a player can wager 500,000 ISK to join the PC match as a GÇ£ringer mercenaryGÇ¥. Once both teams are full the match starts. At the end of the match the ringers on the winning team get their money back + biomass payout. ItGÇÖs essentially gambling on the outcome, but it ensures that there are no more GÇ£no showGÇ¥ one sided battles. Fights will always happen.

Per the revision mentioned above IGÇÖm dropping the GÇ£attack the Skyfire Batteries / GridsGÇ¥ part. This will hopefully make implementing this easier and less complicated. DonGÇÖt want your Warbarge to blow up? Take the District in 12 hours or less.

And the queued District battles are serial. So when one finishes the next one is starting very soon after. The only time you would have multiple battles happening simultaneously is if you are attacking / defending more than one District at that time.

I'm moving this from General Discussion to Feedback/Requests.

Ohh cry.. We opened that one to specifically to discus the topic in a more general setting

While I absolutely love this idea, I do think that there is still room for the current PC system - maybe for smaller, less valuable districts. PC lite if you will.