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negative49er The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 28	Posted - 2013.06.26 23:38:00 - [1] - Quote This title is self explanatory The Charge time +5 or 3 IDK is a completely useless ( remember that the prototype scrambler rifle are automatic no charging there ) The laser rifle had it the worst by it sight and feedback dmg, but at least give up a decent skill for it, really cooldown I think heat build up is the important thing people think about.
castba Penguin's March 11	Posted - 2013.06.26 23:40:00 - [2] - Quote Amarr medium racial suits have this skill don't they?
negative49er The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 28	Posted - 2013.06.26 23:42:00 - [3] - Quote castba wrote: Amarr medium racial suits have this skill don't they? judging by my avartar i didn't want to be an amarr so there
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1010	Posted - 2013.06.27 21:10:00 - [4] - Quote castba wrote: Amarr medium racial suits have this skill don't they? The issue is more that the Scrambler Rifle has a passive that doesn't do anything for a variant. It's not really useful for the main version of the rifle either, but that's a separate issue.
darkiller240 INGLORIOUS-INQUISITION 19	Posted - 2013.06.27 21:24:00 - [5] - Quote Bump +1
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 30	Posted - 2013.06.27 21:31:00 - [6] - Quote just let me change weapons when my SR overheats
Arcturis Vanguard Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 36	Posted - 2013.06.27 22:15:00 - [7] - Quote The amarr assault suit takes care of the heat build up for the scrambler rifle. It's beast mode for both variants. I don't agree with the OP wanting extra heat reduction. It's a niche weapon that goes along with the suit to bring out its full potential. I would imagine the suit would also increase the effectiveness of the laser to keep the burn last a bit longer, but that hasn't been tested within our Corp so I cannot confirm truthfully.
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 99	Posted - 2013.06.27 22:35:00 - [8] - Quote CCP said the skill is working as intended in another post
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1010	Posted - 2013.06.28 00:13:00 - [9] - Quote I think it's possible CCP just doesn't understand how stupid it is to have a single weapon have a passive that doesn't help all versions. It's like singling out the Scrambler for mistreatment. In any event, feel free to add your voice to this thread as well. Apparently they pay more attention when lots of responses are gathered in a single place.
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 101	Posted - 2013.06.28 00:20:00 - [10] - Quote [quote=Zeylon Rho]I think it's possible CCP just doesn't understand how stupid it is to have a single weapon have a passive that doesn't help all versions. It's like singling out the Scrambler for mistreatment. In any event, feel free to add your voice to this thread as well. Apparently they pay more attention when lots of responses are gathered in a single place.[/quote]he unless it has to do with heavies

Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1002	Posted - 2013.06.28 00:33:00 - [11] - Quote negative49er wrote: This title is self explanatory The Charge time +5 or 3 IDK is a completely useless ( remember that the prototype scrambler rifle are automatic no charging there ) The laser rifle had it the worst by it sight and feedback dmg, but at least give up a decent skill for it, really cooldown I think heat build up is the important thing people think about. The charge time buff isn't useless. Its changed the course of quite a few firefights. and it seems that CCP is cool with the AssSCR not getting a bonus from the passive. I don't mind that all that much as the Assault SCR isn't that good of a weapon anyway.
castba Penguin's March 12	Posted - 2013.06.28 02:06:00 - [12] - Quote negative49er wrote: castba wrote: Amarr medium racial suits have this skill don't they? judging by my avartar i didn't want to be an amarr so there Sure, I get that but the SR is supposed to be Armarr's take on the AR if I recall correctly so it makes sense that their suits would benefit their weapons don't you think?
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 35	Posted - 2013.06.28 02:17:00 - [13] - Quote castba wrote: Sure, I get that but the SR is supposed to be Armarr's take on the AR if I recall correctly so it makes sense that their suits would benefit their weapons don't you think? The ASCR is. The SCR is the brainchild of the Amarrs.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1002	Posted - 2013.06.28 02:37:00 - [14] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: castba wrote: Sure, I get that but the SR is supposed to be Armarr's take on the AR if I recall correctly so it makes sense that their suits would benefit their weapons don't you think? The ASCR is. The SCR is the brainchild of the Amarrs. IIRC the devs said that - Assault = the racial rifles attempt at making their weapon work like the AR Breach = the atttempt at making a weapon like the Caldari racial rifle (guass rifle) Burst = The attempt at making a weapon like the Minmatar racial rifle (combat rifle) Tactical = the attempt at making a weapon like the SCR. I'm also pretty sure the devs will be working on fleshing out the variants for all the rifles so every racial rifle will have the three other variants to give them a bit more adaptability.
Patoman Radiant ZionTCD 136	Posted - 2013.06.28 03:01:00 - [15] - Quote KOBLAKA1 wrote: CCP said the skill is working as intended in another post I question many of ccps decisions, many others as well. Point counterpoint ccp has a habit of making some weapon bonuses totaly usefull, and others useless. Same with suits, its like the ammar sentinal compared with caldari logi suit. One they decided to give logical bonuses to to enhance it, so it is op, the other, a bucket of ****. You could say that the logi should should be nerfed to hell, I frankly say that if the bonuses are not so inconistant in being usefull one thing will not be OP.
Nicholas Silverton Tank Bros. DARKSTAR ARMY 11	Posted - 2013.06.28 05:16:00 - [16] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: negative49er wrote: This title is self explanatory The Charge time +5 or 3 IDK is a completely useless ( remember that the prototype scrambler rifle are automatic no charging there ) The laser rifle had it the worst by it sight and feedback dmg, but at least give up a decent skill for it, really cooldown I think heat build up is the important thing people think about. The charge time buff isn't useless. Its changed the course of quite a few firefights. and it seems that CCP is cool with the AssSCR not getting a bonus from the passive. I don't mind that all that much as the Assault SCR isn't that good of a weapon anyway. I agree the charge time buff isn't useless, it has saved my life many a time. As for the AssSCR you are right about that too, the main problem I see with the AssSCR is that it has truly horrible accuracy and it kicks like a mule.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1003	Posted - 2013.06.28 05:16:00 - [17] - Quote Heres an idea. Change the ASCR to have to charge briefly before every shot (while keeping the ROF high) so that as you skill into SCRs your ROF and therefore DPS goes up. I use the crap out of the SCR and being able to get out 400+ s shot of damage out a half second sooner saves my hide all the time.
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 15	Posted - 2013.06.29 01:18:00 - [18] - Quote What about some love for the laser rifle? New sights would be a great start and reducing the feedback damage would also help a lot.
Melai For'Aiur Shining Flame Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.30 10:43:00 - [19] - Quote I would like this. The charge-up is soooo stupid.
Den-tredje Baron ParagonX 132	Posted - 2013.06.30 12:19:00 - [20] - Quote Wait a minute doesn't the AR have 3 well lets call them specialization skills ?? Ammo; sharpshooter, specialization. And if i remember the SCR only got 2 right ?? Ammo and specialization. So why don't we give it another one called heat reduction where it would only be a minor heat reduction as to not undermine the amarr suit ?? Something like what 2% only so that it never gets better than the amarr assault bonus and ofcourse this would also make the amarr assault bonus together with this even better.

Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1770	Posted - 2013.07.02 11:53:00 - [21] - Quote AR and SMGs are special in that respect. I couldn't tell you why they warrant a skill that other weapons do not. There's not exact parity there at the moment.
Kelrie Nae'bre not in a corporation 139	Posted - 2013.08.07 06:39:00 - [22] - Quote KAGEHOSHI had a thread suggesting weapon mods with heat reduction, that would be cool.


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