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Lightning Bolt2 DUST University Ivy League 4	Posted - 2013.06.26 01:27:00 - [1] - Quote Buff scout speed!!! I am a scout nova knife and I have been forced to speed tank to get ANYTHING done in the scout suit. Right now with the current scout speed its easy to kill a scout just by walking backwards and shooting because of speed. I compared Mimitar scout speed with mimitar assault speed and it was a 0.3 mp/s diffrence, thats BARLEY ANYTHING AT ALL!!! I had to sacrifice ALOT of armor/shield for speed and thats all we scouts get, might as well give up and take mimitar assault for its (EPIC) success over mimitar scout! the scouts need a sprint speed and walking speed buff. (not strafe speed!) and also don't give it a crazy speed buff like 3.0 mp/s just raise walking speed of both scouts by .7 or 1 mp/s AND sprint speed by the same amount.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.06.26 01:40:00 - [2] - Quote You use the stimulant packages to increase your speed, not the suits. O.o;
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 234	Posted - 2013.06.26 01:42:00 - [3] - Quote they need to level the fps out first, scouts can already outrun framerate. As for the 0.3 difference, I will agree that is pitiful. But a scouts speed isn't the al in all, low profile suprise attacks, or ability to sneak around past enemies is their greatest advantage. (don't read that as speed not mattering, it obviously does) Edit...are you using speed boosters?(cardio boosts)
Lightning Bolt2 DUST University Ivy League 4	Posted - 2013.06.26 01:48:00 - [4] - Quote whens 18 meters IN ONE MINUTE faster supposed to help much? THese scouts are forced to speed tank witch can be done with a logi or assault just fine Thw low profile is the only real advantage this suit has. [edit] I am using speed boosts
cy6 Raging Pack of Homos 61	Posted - 2013.06.26 03:07:00 - [5] - Quote scout speed is fine as is since you can use speed capsules. besides, i dont want shotgun users running around at the speed of light. Theres a serious problem there
D3LTA Blitzkrieg II 0uter.Heaven League of Infamy 3	Posted - 2013.06.26 03:16:00 - [6] - Quote i dont think scouts need a buff atm, at least not in speed. try taking time to flank ur targets n surprise ur enemy if u wanna use nova knifes. if u wanna engage head on use a AR n ur strafe speed n small hit box to dodge fire
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 90	Posted - 2013.06.26 13:46:00 - [7] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: the scouts need a sprint speed and walking speed buff. I agree with OP, as he has identified a flaw in the Dropsuit Paradigm. Heavies: Substantially more eHP than a Medium Substantially slower movement speed than a Medium Lights: Substantially less eHP than a Medium Only slightly faster movement speed than a Medium - Shotty GoBang
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 90	Posted - 2013.06.26 13:48:00 - [8] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: they need to level the fps out first, scouts can already outrun framerate. Sgt Buttscratch is also correct. Frame Rate performance (especially in PC) must be improved before the scout movement/sprint speeds are rebalanced. - Shotty GoBang
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 719	Posted - 2013.06.26 13:54:00 - [9] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: whens 18 meters IN ONE MINUTE faster supposed to help much? THese scouts are forced to speed tank witch can be done with a logi or assault just fine Thw low profile is the only real advantage this suit has. [edit] I am using speed boosts Honestly If I was CCP I would look at what I wanted the max speed to be and work from there, average humans can run like 10-15 MPH, with genetic enhancements I could see like 20-25 MPH as average. With power armor I could see us doing like 30-35. But yes the speed increases don't seem like much
Sibri Vannikh Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.06.26 14:05:00 - [10] - Quote It would be better to decrease the speed of Assaults and increase their strafe speed. Logis and Medium frames should also be slower but not as much as the Assault.

Son Down SamsClub 23	Posted - 2013.06.26 14:19:00 - [11] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: Buff scout speed!!! I am a scout nova knife and I have been forced to speed tank to get ANYTHING done in the scout suit. Right now with the current scout speed its easy to kill a scout just by walking backwards and shooting because of speed. I compared Mimitar scout speed with mimitar assault speed and it was a 0.3 mp/s diffrence, thats BARLEY ANYTHING AT ALL!!! I had to sacrifice ALOT of armor/shield for speed and thats all we scouts get, might as well give up and take mimitar assault for its (EPIC) success over mimitar scout! the scouts need a sprint speed and walking speed buff. (not strafe speed!) and also don't give it a crazy speed buff like 3.0 mp/s just raise walking speed of both scouts by .7 or 1 mp/s AND sprint speed by the same amount. Oh look, a kid named "Lightning Bolt". Because you can totally run so fast in call of duty its the most awesome evah!
Revelations 514 Red Star. EoN. 73	Posted - 2013.06.26 17:44:00 - [12] - Quote To everyone suggesting the kin cats, any suit can use those so that is irrelevant for this discussion. You can put those same kin cats on any suit, therefore negating the argument that kin cats are the answer to the discrepancy. Matter of fact kin cats add to the problem as I can equip more of them on any other suit than what I can for the Scout, negating even the inherent speed boost from the suit with a simple extra mod slot and the extra CPU/PG to use it. Therefore the OP very much has a point.
Lightning Bolt2 DUST University Ivy League 8	Posted - 2013.06.26 21:58:00 - [13] - Quote This thread WILL NOT FLOOD INTO THE SECOND PAGE!!!!
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 98	Posted - 2013.06.26 22:26:00 - [14] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: the scouts need a sprint speed and walking speed buff. (not strafe speed!) and also don't give it a crazy speed buff like 3.0 mp/s just raise walking speed of both scouts by .7 or 1 mp/s AND sprint speed by the same amount. I think that this is right on, and I agree that kin/cats are not the answer as any suit can equip those more effectively, as most of the suits have more low slots and higher available CPU/PG. I'd suggest that .7 increase to walking and sprinting is probably a bit much to start with . My preference would be to start at almost half that (.3) maybe and work it from there. I can get my gallente scout up to 8.0 sprint with just increases in the passive biotic skill (or whatever it's called). Of course, this does require the frame rate/rendering issues to be corrected first. And it's true, one can flank and try to remain unseen but with only limited steath (dampening but no cloaking) and recon ability (**** poor 10m passive scan range), one still gets vaporized by enemy fire quite a bit.....
From Costa Rica Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS. 120	Posted - 2013.06.26 23:08:00 - [15] - Quote I say take it to a stupidly high level and then we tone it down from there. Give us, criptonian speed. And after we can-¦t push the Dpad forward cause we run trough the map in 5s we dial it down.
Gaelon Thrace DUST University Ivy League 16	Posted - 2013.06.26 23:23:00 - [16] - Quote From Costa Rica wrote: I say take it to a stupidly high level and then we tone it down from there. Give us, criptonian speed. And after we can-¦t push the Dpad forward cause we run trough the map in 5s we dial it down. +1 if we can also get red suits with yellow lightning bolts in place of the faction logo on the sides of the helmet. I'd pay top Aurum for that.
castba Penguin's March 11	Posted - 2013.06.26 23:39:00 - [17] - Quote Actually, I agree that light suits need to be significantly quicker than medium suits and as a dedicated Heavy, I say... SLOW DOWN THE MEDIUM SUITS!!! :P
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 99	Posted - 2013.06.27 00:18:00 - [18] - Quote From Costa Rica wrote: I say take it to a stupidly high level and then we tone it down from there. Give us, criptonian speed. And after we can-¦t push the Dpad forward cause we run trough the map in 5s we dial it down. Bro, you are crazy! I am like a crack fiend when it comes to speed.... once I get a taste of the good stuff, I will NEVER be able to go back!!! 9m/s is just getting there... 10 m/s is too good.... 11 would be heavenly.... 12, 13.... more??? Stop now! I would have to spec into LAVs or wait for fighters to get my fix!
Lightning Bolt2 DUST University Ivy League 16	Posted - 2013.06.27 23:26:00 - [19] - Quote bump
Delenne Arran Ivory Hounds 8	Posted - 2013.06.28 00:15:00 - [20] - Quote While Scouts aren't much faster than Assault suits, I think the combination of slightly higher speed, higher stamina, and smaller scan profile & hitbox should make them way more effective at hit-and-run tactics, or flanking enemies to place Drop Uplinks behind them. Looking at the Prototype Minmatar suits, Scouts have: 0.4 higher move speed, 0.5 higher sprint speed, 2.5 longer sprint duration, 3/s faster stamina recovery, and a scan profile of 45 (36 after bonuses), compared to 50 on the medium suit. Despite having smaller shields, Scout shields also recover about twice as fast as Assault ones, even after the shield recharge rate bonus Assault gets. Scout could still maybe use more speed, but I think that'd have to be on a specialty suit that didn't get scan profile reductions as its suit ability. Perhaps a suit that starts out more or less comparable to Assault in speed, but gets 2/4/6/8/10 percent bonus to moving and sprint speed as its bonus. Or perhaps 5/10/15/20/25 percent to Kinetic Catalyzer module efficiency.

Lightning Bolt2 DUST University Ivy League 20	Posted - 2013.06.28 18:35:00 - [21] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: From Costa Rica wrote: I say take it to a stupidly high level and then we tone it down from there. Give us, criptonian speed. And after we can-¦t push the Dpad forward cause we run trough the map in 5s we dial it down. Bro, you are crazy! I am like a crack fiend when it comes to speed.... once I get a taste of the good stuff, I will NEVER be able to go back!!! 9m/s is just getting there... 10 m/s is too good.... 11 would be heavenly.... 12, 13.... more??? Stop now! I would have to spec into LAVs or wait for fighters to get my fix! please TRY to support this thread and not say "okay buff scout speed to 100 m/s.
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 37	Posted - 2013.06.28 18:38:00 - [22] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: I am a scout nova knife and I have been forced to speed tank to get ANYTHING done in the scout suit. Found your problem.
Lightning Bolt2 DUST University Ivy League 23	Posted - 2013.06.29 06:43:00 - [23] - Quote updated
The-Errorist BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 1	Posted - 2013.06.29 21:08:00 - [24] - Quote Nova knifing/shotgunning medium frames semi-effectively requires speeds buffs AT LEAST of what the complex kinetic catalyzer gives. Meduim frames can do the job much easier with what they have going for them: a slight decrease of speed for more CPU/PG, more slots, and a ton of more base health. As soon as a scout is visually or Tacnet spotted, it is dead basically. To compensate for all of that, the light frames do need a 0.7m/s buff to there movement speeds to be a viable frame size to even be a viable option for shotgunning/nova knifng when compared to medium frames.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 115	Posted - 2013.06.29 23:26:00 - [25] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: please TRY to support this thread and not say "okay buff scout speed to 100 m/s. You talkin' to me? I have no idea because I did support your thread with a serious reply on page 1. However, excuse for a free bump to keep this on page one!
loumanchew Ametat Security Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2013.06.30 02:02:00 - [26] - Quote Its nice to hear all the non scout playing people say that the ''scout speed is fine, just add modules'' but I would like you to put 2 speed modules on a scout and tell me what kind of fit you come up with that has good items in all remaining slots.
Chilled Pill Pro Hic Immortalis 102	Posted - 2013.06.30 10:53:00 - [27] - Quote I think the sprint speed is fine, minor buff if ever. Buff the movement speed.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 348	Posted - 2013.06.30 11:00:00 - [28] - Quote When running scout you rely on stealth and speed not hp if your seen your dead thats the price to pay for being a ninja. I run levle 1 minaj scout when im not ripping folks appart in my tank. For the minja focus on biotics and shield upgrades. I personallu prefer to run with a toxin smg nova knives 1 kincat and one cadrreg with the passive skills in place and the right mods youll have the speed to close in quick on your intended solo target . Also skill into profile dampi ing range amplification and precision enhancement as the passive skills really make a difference in letting you know what your running into.
Lightning Bolt2 DUST University Ivy League 32	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:12:00 - [29] - Quote bump
mollerz Minja Scouts 543	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:21:00 - [30] - Quote I've said all I am going to say about this in other threads. but I'd point out that people shouldn't be able to run backward as fast as a scout can forward.



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