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Sinboto Simmons
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Posted - 2013.06.23 02:11:00 -
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So was checking the melee of the minmatar scout and it turns out all scouts have a melee damage output of 80 (yes I checked the lente scout) this along with the racial bonus of the minny scout gives you a grand total of 100 melee damage when comparing that to the medium suits (who's melee is 110) and le fat boys (who's mele is 150)this is a bit lacking considering the minny scout is suposed to be THE melee class, so a bit of a increase would be welcome.
Minny scout discription:biotic augments make this suit ideal for a melee-focused role. Woven into the suit, a tremor membrane saturates muscles with nutrients amplfying the cross-sectional force of physical strikes, combined with regorous training, this temporarily enhanced strength and dexterity make the minmatar scout almost unmatched in hand to hand combat. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.23 02:15:00 -
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Hmm. This sounds like it needs fixing. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:00:00 -
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Agreed.
I think minjas should be a bit faster as well. fine 2 low slots. but then buff the movement/sprint up incrementally from STD to ADV to PRO...
I would say perhaps build a kin cat into each level of suit commiserate with the level of suit in addition to the two low slots.
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Sinboto Simmons
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:06:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Agreed.
I think minjas should be a bit faster as well. fine 2 low slots. but then buff the movement/sprint up incrementally from STD to ADV to PRO...
I would say perhaps build a kin cat into each level of suit commiserate with the level of suit in addition to the two low slots.
Now this I like would love to see good idea |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:10:00 -
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yea. not to hijack your thread. I'm with you. The minja just needs a bit more specialization to reflect it truely.
To imply it's a master melee/knigfer, but then gimp it.. I just don't get it. It'd be bad ass to mike tyson someone in between knife hits!
The 25% bonus falls flat when maxed out it's less than roles that could care less about it.
oh well. just another head scratcher. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:23:00 -
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I wouldn't say there's an issue with the Minja, I think it's more about the lack of bonuses. I've been suggesting that the basic suits should have some sort of race specific bonus for each suit tier for a quite a while. Similar to the suit and racial bonus, I'm thinking the basic suit should get a frame bonus that stacks with the specialization suits, specific to their race like in this case the Minja could get something along the lines of +2% movement speed and melee damage per level. This way, the basic suits don't look like the redundant SP sinks that they really are right now and there's incentive to actually skill them past level 3. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:29:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I wouldn't say there's an issue with the Minja, I think it's more about the lack of bonuses. I've been suggesting that the basic suits should have some sort of race specific bonus for each suit tier for a quite a while. Similar to the suit and racial bonus, I'm thinking the basic suit should get a frame bonus that stacks with the specialization suits, specific to their race like in this case the Minja could get something along the lines of +2% movement speed and melee damage per level. This way, the basic suits don't look like the redundant SP sinks that they really are right now and there's incentive to actually skill them past level 3.
I would say, take a second. Really put what you are thinking down on paper. then come back here and put down your thoughts. as far as I can tell, you discounted our ideas, and then submitted an inferior one.
No offense, but wtf.
So let's go with what you are saying. I agree the basic suits should have something more. But that's a different convo meant for a different thread.
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.23 05:08:00 -
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mollerz wrote:
I would say, take a second. Really put what you are thinking down on paper. then come back here and put down your thoughts. as far as I can tell, you discounted our ideas, and then submitted an inferior one.
No offense, but wtf.
So let's go with what you are saying. I agree the basic suits should have something more. But that's a different convo meant for a different thread.
Yeah, I should really finish writing up my full suggestion. But I'm just too lazy/not interested in Dust to finish it up. I don't really see it as an inferior idea though, just something to cover two bases that could be easily implemented. Sorry if you think I'm discounting your ideas, I try to do a lot of out of the box thinking. Just look at my ideas for the nova knife topic in GD. |
Sinboto Simmons
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Posted - 2013.06.23 16:15:00 -
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Bump |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.23 17:19:00 -
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I agree that the basic light frame suits need a bonus of their own to make them useful. But not to the point where they can outdo the specialized suits. I would say give a passive suit bonus towards shotgunning or something to make them useful. Or at least a built in bonus of extra CPU/PG per level when wearing the suit. |
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Sinboto Simmons
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:18:00 -
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Bump |
Sinboto Simmons
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Posted - 2013.06.27 17:30:00 -
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Minja bump |
Sinboto Simmons
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:40:00 -
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Info added |
Sinboto Simmons
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Posted - 2013.07.18 21:15:00 -
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