Mind you all this is a lot of work.

and Last Night I got reminded why my familiarity with Eve Online was important as the discussion with the CSM on a number of subjects concerning the Dust Eve link came into question.

Do you guys have to just look for any reason to ****post on the CPM? Wait, never mind, it must be in the rule book somewhere.

Anyway, there certainly was discussion on the forum about the EVE/Dust link the other day. Strangely, can you imagine, maybe some parts of CCP are looking at future items while other parts are working on current issues. No, can't be.

I really wish some of you numskulls could stop taking it so personally when your own particular hot button topic is not the only thing that other people think about.

It's pitiful to watch.

Funny thing is though I get to see all the problems not just one or two or few full, the entire damn picture and you are looking at this problem the entirely wrong way, to bring things closer to context lets use a favorite tool the developers love using.

Player story.

"I feel nothing significant or when I participate in Planetary Conquest"
-Dust 514 player.

Is a very terrible story I would not like to be true but it is currently.

Here is another story

"Dust 514? What's that? Why should I care?"
-Eve Player

is another terrible story that needs rectifying.

So how do we fix that? We write a better story than currently and pursue that though various means.

"I feel I am apart of something bigger than myself and this game when I participate in Planetary Conquest. That my efforts means something for myself, my friends, my allies, and my enemies and they have a lasting impact beyond the borders of this game."

While a fantasy it's a dream worth pursuing, after all Eve has done this countless of times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Is one example. As it stands now there is no reason to do factional warfare and no reason to do planetary conquest as a Dust 514 player and furthermore there is probably not any reason to continue playing beyond SP cap and the newer story I am getting now a days people are no longer hitting their caps. Fixing controls is not going to make this game fun or worth continue playing, there have been dozens of shooters that had controls just right and never got anywhere worth of mention.

I also cannot worry about the core at the moment because CCP is very committed to that and that the CPM, are not game designers. We cannot fix that for them or for you. CCP will have to do the fixing and the most we, the community, can do is remind them it is still broken or less than stellar. In other words why waste so much time beating CCP with a dead horse? There are afterall, there quite a few fish to fry though many are not particularly bigger.

Either way its one of the many things and issues facing Dust and CPM has to tackle all aspects of the game and the CPM cannot just simply twiddle its thumbs while CCP fixes one part of the game at a time so like a hydra we have to branch out an attack every issues on every front when possible.

As you put it, nobody in Dust cares about Eve. A counter story to tell you back is nobody cares about Dust carries a far heavier weight. The link needs to start being built in some form or fashion quicker, the earlier you guys start getting hired by Eve players the quicker eve players can start affording to do our logistics the better your lives are all going to get.

I disagree with the separation clause and I am trying to get CCP to see as well.

Now couple sad facts I know in my heart to be true.

1. If Dust dies and well who gives a damn right?

2. If Eve dies somehow, Dust in itself is effectively dead to that end.

This is why the link should be pursued and not be that feared and I think Team Gridlock is beginning to take bolder steps based on what I have seen. Quite a few options are on the table and the thing we must be careful about is not to kill eve. It doesn't take much to destroy the economy over there.

It's posts like these that remind me that you know more than I do. Mavado or Lance going off here is simply unacceptable because we are not here to judge you. We may be frustrated with this game, and may have our own ideas about how to run it, but that doesn't mean we should abandon respect and goodwill for others. I respect them both a lot, they both have made great contributions to the game, but slamming the CPM regardless of its truthfulness should be avoided here on the forums. I say this and hope I'm in the right to defend you, I know you and Kane trawl through posts especially now that I can see your names liking the 2 threads I put a lot of work into with these shiny new notifications and that helps. You must know it's frustrating to be so oblivious to your schedule and efficacy.