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XtoTheS
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2013.06.22 12:37:00 -
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It is suppose to be no on map support, unlike ambush OMS.
Let OMS have the tanks and lav's and derpasheeps.
The (most)ambush maps are usually wide open and gives tanks a great advantage in mobility. LAV's run wild like its a habitat set aside for them.
Let ambush be what its suppose to be, clone vs clone interaction.
Let us have grounds to fight on with no interference from vehicles. I love it when we have a match where there are no tanks dropped in or lav's over used. It gets us up close and personal. Tanks end up makin us hide and wait, taking away the gameplay for us on the ground..
just IMO.
but if anything, please take them out or make a game setting like this ASAP.
any of you trolls reading this, move along. |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
198
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Posted - 2013.06.22 12:57:00 -
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You get more points for killing tanks and LAV's.
plus...HTFU |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
94
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Posted - 2013.06.22 13:20:00 -
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I don't normally play ambush with my tanks, but just for you, I am going to today. |
XtoTheS
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2013.06.22 23:59:00 -
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its people like you and you.. that make this game not so enjoyable to play the game and the forums a waste of time to post on.
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1142
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:13:00 -
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XtoTheS wrote:its people like you and you.. that make this game not so enjoyable to play the game and the forums a waste of time to post on.
If you don't like tanks in Ambush, we have weapons for that. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
420
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:21:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:XtoTheS wrote:its people like you and you.. that make this game not so enjoyable to play the game and the forums a waste of time to post on.
If you don't like tanks in Ambush, we have weapons for that. But he doesn't want to be forced to change his play style because of other players. He'd much rather them change theirs because of him. |
XtoTheS
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:39:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:XtoTheS wrote:its people like you and you.. that make this game not so enjoyable to play the game and the forums a waste of time to post on.
If you don't like tanks in Ambush, we have weapons for that. But he doesn't want to be forced to change his play style because of other players. He'd much rather them change theirs because of him.
It is not about play style its about game play and making that game mode more enjoyable. It is fine when you have Ambush OMS but not with normal Ambush. In fact how bout they just add that game mode to where there are no vehicles. How about even making a game mode for vehicles only(of course not until they fix that fps issue with vehicles).
As I mentioned in my first post, its my opinion and trolls, go away.
So if you do not have anything good to add to it instead from flaming me for my opinion then move the eff along. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1727
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:48:00 -
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AVers need a more stable source of WP as it is; this discourages the play style even more. |
Jungian
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Omega Commission
61
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:49:00 -
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Battlefield 2 had an "Infantry only" option to servers which was widely used. I dont see why Dust 514 shouldnt get the same option to Ambush at least. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
421
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Posted - 2013.06.23 01:31:00 -
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Jungian wrote:Battlefield 2 had an "Infantry only" option to servers which was widely used. I dont see why Dust 514 shouldnt get the same option to Ambush at least. In the Battlefield series Vehicles are a throwaway commodity without any time or resource investment whatsoever. Anyone can hop into a tank and be as efficient as the next guy without dedicating anything beyond some practice. Furthermore, tank drivers in Battlefield can play in "no vehicle" matches just as efficiently as everyone else because they have access to the same gear and classes so that joining in such a match has no drawback for the tanker.
In dust, specializing in vehicles entails significant ISK and SP investements and is likely to lead to overall worse combat performance when tanks are not available. A Vehicle driver can not afford to skill into vehicles and infantry at the same time. In the end, we would have a gamemode from wich not only vehicles, but also the players specializied in them are effectively excluded from participating.
On top of that. Tanks are designed not just to fight each other but primarily to provide an area of denial against anyone without the AV capabilities to scare them off or kill them. Players like the OP and myself, who choose an infantry specific role are the bread and butter of Tank drivers and the largest part of their tactical purpose.
If players can choose to opt out of tank warfare via a seperate game mode, tankers would only face players that have sufficient AV capabilities or drive tanks themselves because only very few people would join OMS matches unless they know they can deal with tanks (or vehicles in general), thus defeating the area of denial part of their objective.This would make tank driving a wholly illogical and wastefull endeavour for the vast majority of situations due to the associated cost and, combined with the earlier points, ultimately disincentivice specing into vehicles in the first place.
tl;dr This is not Battlefield 2, that's why |
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Jungian
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Omega Commission
61
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Posted - 2013.06.23 01:49:00 -
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Oh well, I assume the arena based matches whenever that arrives, will be more infantry centered. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2052
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Posted - 2013.06.23 02:23:00 -
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Jungian wrote:Oh well, I assume the arena based matches whenever that arrives, will be more infantry centered.
Exactly, and they already confirmed that they'll have modes that don't fit with the verisimilitude they're going for with the "real" matches, like Capture the Flag and King of the Hill. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
2045
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:42:00 -
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To be honest, your opinion sucks. If you want to run around without having to worry about vehicles, there are plenty of other games to appeal to your narrow interests, Dust 514 isn't one of them. Man up and use AV or squad up with dedicated AV or don't play at all. Most of us went through a year of this QQ and this is why tanks and dropships are a joke now while more newberries pile on and cry all over again. Learn from our mistakes and learn2play without trying to make this game something it isn't because you disagree with a certain game mechanic that other players took the time to invest into. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
173
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Posted - 2013.06.23 04:09:00 -
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No. You know why, and i`m not telling you why. That`ll make me look like a troll, and you more of a idiot. Now, let this thread die.
Peace, Godin  |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2013.06.23 05:06:00 -
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We can make a infantry only mode(More CQC pulled redlinemore in) entirely sperate from regular ambush and let the player base decide which one is more worthy of their time. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
587
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Posted - 2013.06.23 06:45:00 -
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did you try investing into the proto AV that has tanks crying on the forums every day?
But seriously: if you make a tank only mode, then skirmish and everything that is not 'infantry only' mode will be the only place for AV and vehicles. and you're high if you think anyone is bringing tanks against a team with more than 1 proto AV guy. So tanks will only play in PC. then everyone who specced into AV becomes obsolete bc AV is still not as good as a maddy with a particle cannon at killing tanks.
Good job. you killed the AV class. happy? |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
36
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Posted - 2013.06.23 08:04:00 -
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just imagine a tank only game mode.... all railgun Vayus sniping 16v16 ju- yea no it wont work, as soon as someone looses a tank theyd leave and every match would end without any players in it, get real mate |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
179
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Posted - 2013.06.23 08:27:00 -
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I see where you're coming from, standard ambush favors vehicles way more than the other game modes. The lack of turrets, supply depots, and varied infantry spawn all serve to give vehicles a bit more of an edge.
But honestly, taking vehicles out of ambush isn't the right solution, since it goes against the spirit of the game. Personally, I'd rather have them remove the standard ambush, and have OMS be the default ambush.
As a fan of Infantry focus combat, I really like the idea of the Arena thing, but we probably won't be seeing that for at least another year. Best thing to do for now is grind some SP into AV, and try to always carry nanohives near you. |
Sigbjorn Foerik
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2013.06.23 08:28:00 -
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NO. The game is or at least should be a sandbox. This means no restrictions. So just NO. |
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