DUST Search - 2 shots im dead?????

Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote:

Another Heavy SOB wrote:

Yeva Kalsani wrote:

ARs are even against shields and armor. SMGs are better against armor than shields. Flux grenades immediately nullify your shields, which you can hear by the electronic-screeching sound of them going off. Someone with a prototype-level AR and all the damage stacked on can do almost 100 damage a shot. Is it GLU-5 Tactical ARs or Duvolle Tactical ARs that are killing you?

Actually Gallente blaster ARs are not entirely equal to shields and armor, 110%shield 90%Armor. SMG is 94% shields 109% armor.

Also to clarify only the tactical or semi auto ARs will near or reach 100 damage. Considering their low rate of fire and damage you should immediately know that's what you're being hit by. The Automatic AR will never reach anywhere near 100 per shot.

Also keep in mind that especially when being hit by a 1000rpm rate of fire SMG it's very difficult to determine just how many bullets perforated your Dropsuit.

good info i'll definetly keep that in mind thanx.. so my shields and armor dont completely suk its what kind of weapon thats giving me the blues..

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Cobra CLUTCH79 The Surrogates Of War 0	Posted - 2013.06.18 08:17:00 - [1] - Quote im having trouble understanding why my dropsuits shield upgrades are lvl 3 and shield extenders are lvl 3 and im using 2 enhanced shield extenders yet in 2 to 3 shots im dead can someone plz help??
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 843	Posted - 2013.06.18 08:19:00 - [2] - Quote Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote: im having trouble understanding why my dropsuits shield upgrades are lvl 3 and shield extenders are lvl 3 and im using 2 enhanced shield extenders yet in 2 to 3 shots im dead can someone plz help?? Ideally you want to be shot with a forge gun or plasma cannon - then you'll be dead in one shot. It's much quicker.
Anita Hardone Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 114	Posted - 2013.06.18 08:25:00 - [3] - Quote Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote: im having trouble understanding why my dropsuits shield upgrades are lvl 3 and shield extenders are lvl 3 and im using 2 enhanced shield extenders yet in 2 to 3 shots im dead can someone plz help?? You a scout or somethn?
Django Quik R.I.f.t 688	Posted - 2013.06.18 08:28:00 - [4] - Quote Headshots most likely
Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 27	Posted - 2013.06.18 08:41:00 - [5] - Quote What suit do you use and how much HP you have? Does your chosen suit compliment your play style? Do you run alone or in squad?
Shadow heat Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2013.06.18 08:56:00 - [6] - Quote Yeah i'm curious about that too, i thought that "Instant Kill" thing was out of fashion in FPS this days. Is like going back to the 90's to play DooM, or Quake.
McFurious TeamPlayers EoN. 111	Posted - 2013.06.18 08:57:00 - [7] - Quote Pro-tip: Try not to get shot.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 1127	Posted - 2013.06.18 08:58:00 - [8] - Quote It almost certainly isn't two or three shots. If you keep moving, then it becomes much harder to hit you. If you're ever shot at while you're standing still you're probably going to die.
Cobra CLUTCH79 The Surrogates Of War 0	Posted - 2013.06.18 08:58:00 - [9] - Quote Sleepy Shadow wrote: What suit do you use and how much HP you have? Does your chosen suit compliment your play style? Do you run alone or in squad? i run a caldari assault 311 shield hp 198 armor hp i run in squads and alone but nothing changes .. by no means do i suk at this game i easily get between 20 and 30 kills a match i'll die a max of 10 or 12 times..
GLiMPSE X IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 161	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:00:00 - [10] - Quote Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: What suit do you use and how much HP you have? Does your chosen suit compliment your play style? Do you run alone or in squad? i run a caldari assault 311 shield hp 198 armor hp i run in squads and alone but nothing changes .. by no means do i suk at this game i easily get between 20 and 30 kills a match i'll die a max of 10 or 12 times.. That ratio isn't that impressive... some would disagree with your assessment of your own skills, especially when put into context with what your thread is about.

Cobra CLUTCH79 The Surrogates Of War 0	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:03:00 - [11] - Quote GLiMPSE X wrote: Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: What suit do you use and how much HP you have? Does your chosen suit compliment your play style? Do you run alone or in squad? i run a caldari assault 311 shield hp 198 armor hp i run in squads and alone but nothing changes .. by no means do i suk at this game i easily get between 20 and 30 kills a match i'll die a max of 10 or 12 times.. That ratio isn't that impressive... some would disagree with your assessment of your own skills, especially when put into context with what your thread is about. dood.. what???
GLiMPSE X IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 161	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:11:00 - [12] - Quote Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote: GLiMPSE X wrote: Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: What suit do you use and how much HP you have? Does your chosen suit compliment your play style? Do you run alone or in squad? i run a caldari assault 311 shield hp 198 armor hp i run in squads and alone but nothing changes .. by no means do i suk at this game i easily get between 20 and 30 kills a match i'll die a max of 10 or 12 times.. That ratio isn't that impressive... some would disagree with your assessment of your own skills, especially when put into context with what your thread is about. dood.. what??? read you do?
Khal V'Rani Nephilim Initiative 112	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:18:00 - [13] - Quote So we have what suit you run with mod. Now... What weapon is offending your sense of order?
Yeva Kalsani Reckoners 140	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:19:00 - [14] - Quote People killing you might be using weapons plus (complex) damage modifier modules and have their respective weapon proficiency high or maxed out. This will ramp up the shot damage significantly. Also, considering your HP total, getting two-shotted sounds like you're getting shotgunned, sniped, or hit by forge splash.
Cobra CLUTCH79 The Surrogates Of War 0	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:27:00 - [15] - Quote Khal V'Rani wrote: So we have what suit you run with mod. Now... What weapon is offending your sense of order? i have no idea whats killin me i understand the sniper kills and forge guns and whatnot but im gettin killed by somekinda ar sometimes an smg and i thought shields defended against them things pretty well should i sacrifice speed and stack armor instead?
Yeva Kalsani Reckoners 140	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:30:00 - [16] - Quote ARs are even against shields and armor. SMGs are better against armor than shields. Flux grenades immediately nullify your shields, which you can hear by the electronic-screeching sound of them going off. Someone with a prototype-level AR and all the damage stacked on can do almost 100 damage a shot. Is it GLU-5 Tactical ARs or Duvolle Tactical ARs that are killing you?
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 151	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:34:00 - [17] - Quote Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: What suit do you use and how much HP you have? Does your chosen suit compliment your play style? Do you run alone or in squad? i run a caldari assault 311 shield hp 198 armor hp i run in squads and alone but nothing changes .. by no means do i suk at this game i easily get between 20 and 30 kills a match i'll die a max of 10 or 12 times.. With that amount of HP you could only be killed in 2-3 shots by a select few weapons. Have you considered that when you die very quickly that you were taking damage from multiple sources? Potentially due to placing yourself in a bad situation. I'm guessing you've recently graduated from academy battles? If so you must understand that you've essentially been thrown to the wolves, potentially facing off against player's with millions more SP invested than you. This doesn't mean you'll lose every engagement but you may not have learned to pick your fights in academy battles, now is the time to learn. Don't lose hope though, proper matchmaking is on the way, and remember headshots > SP invested.
Cobra CLUTCH79 The Surrogates Of War 0	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:38:00 - [18] - Quote Another Heavy SOB wrote: Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: What suit do you use and how much HP you have? Does your chosen suit compliment your play style? Do you run alone or in squad? i run a caldari assault 311 shield hp 198 armor hp i run in squads and alone but nothing changes .. by no means do i suk at this game i easily get between 20 and 30 kills a match i'll die a max of 10 or 12 times.. With that amount of HP you could only be killed in 2-3 shots by a select few weapons. Have you considered that when you die very quickly that you were taking damage from multiple sources? Potentially due to placing yourself in a bad situation. I'm guessing you've recently graduated from academy battles? If so you must understand that you've essentially been thrown to the wolves, potentially facing off against player's with millions more SP invested than you. This doesn't mean you'll lose every engagement but you may not have learned to pick your fights in academy battles, now is the time to learn. Don't lose hope though, proper matchmaking is on the way, and remember headshots > SP invested. thanx i'll keep that in mind
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 34	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:38:00 - [19] - Quote Heh. I'll bet you he is talking about the invisible grenades.
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 132	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:38:00 - [20] - Quote No AR or smg can 2 shot you with that much armor and shield. You probably got hit by something else along with those 2 shots. Flux grenade Sniper headshot Charged scrambler rifle to the head High level scrambler pistol to the head The fact you dont know what killed you makes it impossible to tell you what happened since you dont even know yourself.

Cobra CLUTCH79 The Surrogates Of War 0	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:40:00 - [21] - Quote Yeva Kalsani wrote: ARs are even against shields and armor. SMGs are better against armor than shields. Flux grenades immediately nullify your shields, which you can hear by the electronic-screeching sound of them going off. Someone with a prototype-level AR and all the damage stacked on can do almost 100 damage a shot. Is it GLU-5 Tactical ARs or Duvolle Tactical ARs that are killing you? im pretty sure its that damned duvolle and quite possibly the breach smg..
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 34	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:42:00 - [22] - Quote Scrambler rifles will also absolutely reduce you to a smoldering pile of ash is you are a shield heavy assault.
Khal V'Rani Nephilim Initiative 112	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:46:00 - [23] - Quote Eh. Depends on your playstyle. Honestly the armor or speed argument is as old as war itself. Speed makes you harder to hit as long as you're paying attention to your surrounding and play smart. Armor lets you soak a bit more damage depending on what you're using but you still most likely won't be able to take a full magazine center mass. My suggestion is to use cover and hit and run tactics. What you equip on your suits, how you play, what role you fill, is all up to you.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 34	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:46:00 - [24] - Quote Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote: Yeva Kalsani wrote: ARs are even against shields and armor. SMGs are better against armor than shields. Flux grenades immediately nullify your shields, which you can hear by the electronic-screeching sound of them going off. Someone with a prototype-level AR and all the damage stacked on can do almost 100 damage a shot. Is it GLU-5 Tactical ARs or Duvolle Tactical ARs that are killing you? im pretty sure its that damned duvolle and quite possibly the breach smg.. Why don't you just look up at the kill feed next time you die and don't know wtf killed you. Then come back here and let us all know what it was. The suspense is killing us (well it's killing me at least).
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 151	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:48:00 - [25] - Quote Yeva Kalsani wrote: ARs are even against shields and armor. SMGs are better against armor than shields. Flux grenades immediately nullify your shields, which you can hear by the electronic-screeching sound of them going off. Someone with a prototype-level AR and all the damage stacked on can do almost 100 damage a shot. Is it GLU-5 Tactical ARs or Duvolle Tactical ARs that are killing you? Actually Gallente blaster ARs are not entirely equal to shields and armor, 110%shield 90%Armor. SMG is 94% shields 109% armor. Also to clarify only the tactical or semi auto ARs will near or reach 100 damage. Considering their low rate of fire and damage you should immediately know that's what you're being hit by. The Automatic AR will never reach anywhere near 100 per shot. Also keep in mind that especially when being hit by a 1000rpm rate of fire SMG it's very difficult to determine just how many bullets perforated your Dropsuit.
GLiMPSE X IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 161	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:51:00 - [26] - Quote PRO TIP: The kill feed in the upper right...tells you what killed you... /thread
Cobra CLUTCH79 The Surrogates Of War 0	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:53:00 - [27] - Quote Another Heavy SOB wrote: Yeva Kalsani wrote: ARs are even against shields and armor. SMGs are better against armor than shields. Flux grenades immediately nullify your shields, which you can hear by the electronic-screeching sound of them going off. Someone with a prototype-level AR and all the damage stacked on can do almost 100 damage a shot. Is it GLU-5 Tactical ARs or Duvolle Tactical ARs that are killing you? Actually Gallente blaster ARs are not entirely equal to shields and armor, 110%shield 90%Armor. SMG is 94% shields 109% armor. Also to clarify only the tactical or semi auto ARs will near or reach 100 damage. Considering their low rate of fire and damage you should immediately know that's what you're being hit by. The Automatic AR will never reach anywhere near 100 per shot. Also keep in mind that especially when being hit by a 1000rpm rate of fire SMG it's very difficult to determine just how many bullets perforated your Dropsuit. good info i'll definetly keep that in mind thanx.. so my shields and armor dont completely suk its what kind of weapon thats giving me the blues..
Cobra CLUTCH79 The Surrogates Of War 0	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:54:00 - [28] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote: Yeva Kalsani wrote: ARs are even against shields and armor. SMGs are better against armor than shields. Flux grenades immediately nullify your shields, which you can hear by the electronic-screeching sound of them going off. Someone with a prototype-level AR and all the damage stacked on can do almost 100 damage a shot. Is it GLU-5 Tactical ARs or Duvolle Tactical ARs that are killing you? im pretty sure its that damned duvolle and quite possibly the breach smg.. Why don't you just look up at the kill feed next time you die and don't know wtf killed you. Then come back here and let us all know what it was. The suspense is killing us (well it's killing me at least). it's mostly the duvolle
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 151	Posted - 2013.06.18 09:56:00 - [29] - Quote GLiMPSE X wrote: PRO TIP: The kill feed in the upper right...tells you what killed you... /thread Well beyond that the kill screen shows you your killers dropsuit, weapon, damage dealt (to you), and their remaining HP. But hey, he's obviously new and atleast he asked for help rather than bitching and crying that ARs are OP and how it's so unfair.
GLiMPSE X IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 161	Posted - 2013.06.18 10:02:00 - [30] - Quote Another Heavy SOB wrote: GLiMPSE X wrote: PRO TIP: The kill feed in the upper right...tells you what killed you... /thread Well beyond that the kill screen shows you your killers dropsuit, weapon, damage dealt (to you), and their remaining HP. But hey, he's obviously new and atleast he asked for help rather than bitching and crying that ARs are OP and how it's so unfair. True, I'll go back to my cave.

Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 152	Posted - 2013.06.18 10:14:00 - [31] - Quote Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote: Another Heavy SOB wrote: Yeva Kalsani wrote: ARs are even against shields and armor. SMGs are better against armor than shields. Flux grenades immediately nullify your shields, which you can hear by the electronic-screeching sound of them going off. Someone with a prototype-level AR and all the damage stacked on can do almost 100 damage a shot. Is it GLU-5 Tactical ARs or Duvolle Tactical ARs that are killing you? Actually Gallente blaster ARs are not entirely equal to shields and armor, 110%shield 90%Armor. SMG is 94% shields 109% armor. Also to clarify only the tactical or semi auto ARs will near or reach 100 damage. Considering their low rate of fire and damage you should immediately know that's what you're being hit by. The Automatic AR will never reach anywhere near 100 per shot. Also keep in mind that especially when being hit by a 1000rpm rate of fire SMG it's very difficult to determine just how many bullets perforated your Dropsuit. good info i'll definetly keep that in mind thanx.. so my shields and armor dont completely suk its what kind of weapon thats giving me the blues.. Well you're better fitted than militia but it certainly gets better . My Caldari assault build favorite fit is 470 shield 150 Armor, 542 Shield if I use four complex extenders instead of 3 with a complex recharger. Besides your fitting part of the issue may be that your fit is not matching your playstyle. If you want to stay highly mobile moving quickly in and out of cover and therefore forcing enemies to engage you on your terms I recommend staying with the Caldari. If you would rather fight more as a brawler, taking damage and slugging it out holding a position I would recommend looking into Gallente or Ammar Medium. If you are going to stick with Caldari I strongly recommend dropping the plates in favour of shield regulators which reduce the delay between damage taken to to shield repair start. When you reach higher shield HP rechargers are damn near a necessity. You may not be able to even fit Complex extenders on your current suit but as soon as you can, or a have a suit with enough CPU and PG to fit them then skill to them ASAP.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 152	Posted - 2013.06.18 10:16:00 - [32] - Quote GLiMPSE X wrote: Another Heavy SOB wrote: GLiMPSE X wrote: PRO TIP: The kill feed in the upper right...tells you what killed you... /thread Well beyond that the kill screen shows you your killers dropsuit, weapon, damage dealt (to you), and their remaining HP. But hey, he's obviously new and atleast he asked for help rather than bitching and crying that ARs are OP and how it's so unfair. True, I'll go back to my cave. It's cool, my first instinct was to troll too.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 72	Posted - 2013.06.18 12:51:00 - [33] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Headshots most likely ^^ 4-5 TAC bullets pumped out quickly into a headshot can feel like being sniped.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 379	Posted - 2013.06.18 13:38:00 - [34] - Quote Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote: im having trouble understanding why my dropsuits shield upgrades are lvl 3 and shield extenders are lvl 3 and im using 2 enhanced shield extenders yet in 2 to 3 shots im dead can someone plz help?? Two words: Scrambler pistol It does 450% headshot damage.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 691	Posted - 2013.06.18 15:52:00 - [35] - Quote Trust me, you're getting headshot.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 25	Posted - 2013.06.18 15:58:00 - [36] - Quote Prolly me. I have the tendency to use stealth and go to the other side of the map and kill my opponents with le shotgun.
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 899	Posted - 2013.06.18 16:04:00 - [37] - Quote Its funny, MGO was all about insta-kill. If you tried for anything but a headshot, you were dead. In dust everyone complains that they cant sponge bullets to the head.


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