I have no major grievance with the mechanics. They can use changes and improvement, but everything always can.

The major problems I have are with the basic coding of this game. It runs like garbage. This isn't something any of us can advise them on unless we happen to be programmers ourselves.

No they need to be fired ASAP and let iceland do the job. I heard they weren't listening to player feedback.

I have no major grievance with the mechanics. They can use changes and improvement, but everything always can.

The major problems I have are with the basic coding of this game. It runs like garbage. This isn't something any of us can advise them on unless we happen to be programmers ourselves.

It takes time to fix bugs. It's not like you can tell exactly what's causing the bug even though you know that it's there.

I have no major grievance with the mechanics. They can use changes and improvement, but everything always can.

The major problems I have are with the basic coding of this game. It runs like garbage. This isn't something any of us can advise them on unless we happen to be programmers ourselves.

how about the game not even close to complete we don't have all the dropsuits, vehicles, eqipment, or weapons. we can't call for installations and we are basically fighting on the same planet
not to mention all the bugs

Did EVE have all the ships, equipment, modules, stations, and everything else from all the races on release? It is called additional content.
Same planet? Look at the planet itself where it is on the star map. Even public matches are not on the same map.

I can personally attest to that one.

Firing people or even switching teams never helps anything. I mean, look at what an incoherent mess Duke Nukem Forever was after thirteen years and four development studios.

That's not a solution.

For anyone that wasn't here during the first phases of the Closed Beta, you had to lead your targets not because of game mechanics, but because of lag with the server-side hit detection.

Then CCP Shanghai developed an algorithm that calculates connection latency into the game's hit detection that fixed all those issues pretty much overnight. If it weren't for that system, you would still need to lead targets by up to a foot or more to be able to land hits even with what would normally be considered low latency.

Before you outright condemn them, you need to take achievements like that into consideration.

I think the only way to save dust is to hand the project over to one of Sony's first party developers (Sony Bend?) and have them fix the aiming, lag, memory leak, and other issues CCP can't handle. CCP could still keep creative control, but they aren't experienced enough to build the type of game that gamers have come to expect over the years.
This is all a pipedream, though, because in six months, dust will account for 0.000000000000001% of the money Sony gets from free to play games, so why bother with dust?

I was talking about the scenery no forest planets no ice plantets lava planets swamp planets green grass planets and so forth and so on. And EVE came out ten years ago on PC where the standards for games were and still are lower than they are for consoles. case in point see what happened to medal of honor warfighter and aliens colonial marines we console owners don't accept crap like PC owners will

every single developer who made the game in this link should replace the incompetent buffons who made dust 514
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j_t_HfLSBs

honestly CCP should fire every single person who is on the development team for spending 3 years to develop this game and hire the people who made section 8 prejudice game in 18 months for 3 platforms

I know this is extreme but I feel like the idea of dust 514 can have a the same impact as games like Call Of Duty, Doom, Halo, WoW, and EVE.
The problem is the game is very buggy and has a lack of options it is basically worst than battlefield or call of duty in terms of gameplay variety. CCP you should reskin section 8 prejudice and make it dust there are a couple of things you would have to make in order for it to work but right now that is a better game and it came out 2 years ago.

For everyone who said section 8 was crap
Section 8 prejudice supposedly fixed alot of the issues that were wrong with the original (I never played the Original Section 8). in comparison to Dust it is a little easier to play. Dust 514 has better graphics, and dropsuit customization which leads to better survivabilty howver section 8 prejudice has better guns and more customization to the guns. The DCM or Dynamic combat missions make it feel like it you are doing something different every single battle not to mention without any dlc there are 3 different planets that affect your dropsuit differentIy (currently on dust we are fighting on the same planet over and over). I personally would love to see CCP flatout hire the developers for Section 8 Prejudice or reskin Section 8 Prejudice to fit in the dust lore. Since I downloaded and played this game for the last 4 days I been sitting here playing it like why couldn't dust be more li,ke this. Even with its outdated graphics.

Uh, wow, did you think about that before you posted it?

Console players representing the highest level of standards? Must say I've never heard that one before.

As did I, once I realized that it was due to lag and not game mechanics. I'd gotten too used to shooters with travel time on the bullets.

I will admit CCP could learn a thing or two from these guys. If dropping out of a high orbit MCC looked as good in DUST as it does in this trailer I'd die on purpose to keep doing it, I also think the drop method is a lot better, it seems to drop the object safely onto any ground type.

Guns too looked and sounded nice, scopes and all of that jazz and well as a teaser of what MTAC's might be like.

Section 8 looks good, and I think you summed up the general differences, Dust looks better, and has some more customisation but section 8 seems to have better gameplay features.

Also half of the Reykjavik office is also working on DUST (your precious socks four is in Iceland for example). You are just coming out like racist guy here calling CCP Shanghai unable to make game for western market while consoles are not popular at all in Asia in the first place (in China consoles are banned by law) :D So yeah, all the devs are from US/EU.