DUST Search - Withdraw the 'release' statement...

Allah's Snackbar wrote:

Richard Sebire wrote:

Half, if not more of the game is still missing/soon still. Ugh

I was hoping to be a skilled Dropship pilot, but that doesn't seem to be happening any time soon. What?

I have read the eu/playstation/forum/Dust 514 thread and a lot of people are questioning Sony's judgement on this issue now.

If the game is incomplete, how can they justify taking people's money is the main topic of the thread Idea

They have a point, and you never know, if Sony get to much flack, their partnership with CCP might be brought to their attention Idea

They don't mince their words, especially with a new platform coming, they don't need people/competition drawing attention to oblivious flaws in it before its out. Straight

Well to your money point the simple answer is not to give them any money as Dust is worth neither the time or money.

If you gave them money during the beta then you are a lazy developer's dream as you reinforce that's its fine to ask people to pay for sub-par.

If you gave them money after release and regret it then you should learn to read a wide range of reviews or try a bit before you invest.

If you gave them money after release and have no regrets well I guess everyone's standards are different. Some very low, some high.

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Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 236	Posted - 2013.06.16 19:28:00 - [1] - Quote If I were CCP, right now I would withdraw the release statement and plan a full release early 2014, due after PS4 release. This way CCP can fix their act up and benefit from the ideal statement of having it launched on the PS4, with better engine and everything...
Umyo Anonops Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 4	Posted - 2013.06.16 19:29:00 - [2] - Quote Or.. CCP could just add more game modes and add more newbie-friendly tutorials to the game.
Richard Sebire Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 39	Posted - 2013.06.16 20:38:00 - [3] - Quote Half, if not more of the game is still missing/soon still. I was hoping to be a skilled Dropship pilot, but that doesn't seem to be happening any time soon. I have read the eu/playstation/forum/Dust 514 thread and a lot of people are questioning Sony's judgement on this issue now. If the game is incomplete, how can they justify taking people's money is the main topic of the thread They have a point, and you never know, if Sony get to much flack, their partnership with CCP might be brought to their attention They don't mince their words, especially with a new platform coming, they don't need people/competition drawing attention to oblivious flaws in it before its out.
Allah's Snackbar Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 184	Posted - 2013.06.16 21:00:00 - [4] - Quote Richard Sebire wrote: Half, if not more of the game is still missing/soon still. I was hoping to be a skilled Dropship pilot, but that doesn't seem to be happening any time soon. I have read the eu/playstation/forum/Dust 514 thread and a lot of people are questioning Sony's judgement on this issue now. If the game is incomplete, how can they justify taking people's money is the main topic of the thread They have a point, and you never know, if Sony get to much flack, their partnership with CCP might be brought to their attention They don't mince their words, especially with a new platform coming, they don't need people/competition drawing attention to oblivious flaws in it before its out. Well to your money point the simple answer is not to give them any money as Dust is worth neither the time or money. If you gave them money during the beta then you are a lazy developer's dream as you reinforce that's its fine to ask people to pay for sub-par. If you gave them money after release and regret it then you should learn to read a wide range of reviews or try a bit before you invest. If you gave them money after release and have no regrets well I guess everyone's standards are different. Some very low, some high.
Greg FREESEr Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.06.23 00:56:00 - [5] - Quote I agree with op, the release was rushed for pc and mmofps marketing strategies. Remove full release and call it beta again.
Onesimus Tarsus Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 505	Posted - 2013.06.23 01:09:00 - [6] - Quote Greg FREESEr wrote: I agree with op, the release was rushed for pc and mmofps marketing strategies. Remove full release and call it beta again. And, of course, begin the respecs.
McFurious TeamPlayers EoN. 141	Posted - 2013.06.23 01:26:00 - [7] - Quote I agree with OP. The biggest mistake was calling this beta build the release. Hence all the bad reviews and general flak they have gotten over it. Though, much of the damage has already been done. So going back to beta status probably won't make much difference now.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 219	Posted - 2013.06.23 01:41:00 - [8] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Greg FREESEr wrote: I agree with op, the release was rushed for pc and mmofps marketing strategies. Remove full release and call it beta again. And, of course, begin the respecs. No respecs if they do have respecs then they need to be hard to get or impact negatively on the character to respecing is discouraged. CCP wants us to specialise that's the point, not go willy nilly all over the place.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1727	Posted - 2013.06.23 02:08:00 - [9] - Quote You don't just withdraw a release statement. When it's out, it's out.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2805	Posted - 2013.06.23 02:08:00 - [10] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: If I were CCP, right now I would withdraw the release statement and plan a full release early 2014, due after PS4 release. This way CCP can fix their act up and benefit from the ideal statement of having it launched on the PS4, with better engine and everything... Problems with the idea of yours: 1. Imagine the negative PR in which CCP has to suffer after posting a statement retracting the release. Not to mention the forum whining we'll see from the internet lawyers wanting one more free reset because the merc packs sold at Gamestop say that your merc pack contents will be refunded upon commercial release (again). 2. The PS4 will not be able to quickly overcome the PS3 until at least 2015-16 because current PS3 owners are likely to hold onto their current system until it dies and then have to replace them. 3. CCP will then have to waste more years trying to rebuild Dust for the PS4 and then all of this testing we did during the past 12 months alone will have been for nothing. On top of that, Dust took 4 years to develop since 2009. 4. A lot of us who are established veterans, me included, will more than likely abandon Dust if they were to retract their commercial release statement as that is a definite sign that Dust has failed. At that point, I will just go back to playing Eve Online playing with the market. 5. It has been decreed years ago that anyone buying a brand new console off the shelves on release day are technically considered to be Beta Testers because of all the system glitches they will experience. Remember the defective power cords and other fun hardware defects?

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2805	Posted - 2013.06.23 02:20:00 - [11] - Quote I want to make a note for everyone that the reason why Dust took 4 years to develop was because of us Eve players rioting during the 2011 Jita Riots. This forced Dust to end up in the back burner of development cycles and thus explains why it took so long.
PLANETSIDETwo OnPS4 Commando Perkone Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.06.23 18:18:00 - [12] - Quote So the jita riots are connected with the ddos attacks and the Planetside 2 bomber? I dont think so. CCP taught us to be backstabbing gankers, they get ganked and the game suffers. Hail to the debacle514
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3966	Posted - 2013.06.23 18:21:00 - [13] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: You don't just withdraw a release statement. When it's out, it's out. I will forever see the release of DUST 514 as a flasher in a busy mall :/
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.06.23 18:23:00 - [14] - Quote You lead the horse to water. But he's still concerned about the dasani vending machine another 50 miles out.
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 51	Posted - 2013.06.23 18:30:00 - [15] - Quote Allah's Snackbar wrote: Richard Sebire wrote: Half, if not more of the game is still missing/soon still. I was hoping to be a skilled Dropship pilot, but that doesn't seem to be happening any time soon. I have read the eu/playstation/forum/Dust 514 thread and a lot of people are questioning Sony's judgement on this issue now. If the game is incomplete, how can they justify taking people's money is the main topic of the thread They have a point, and you never know, if Sony get to much flack, their partnership with CCP might be brought to their attention They don't mince their words, especially with a new platform coming, they don't need people/competition drawing attention to oblivious flaws in it before its out. Well to your money point the simple answer is not to give them any money as Dust is worth neither the time or money. If you gave them money during the beta then you are a lazy developer's dream as you reinforce that's its fine to ask people to pay for sub-par. If you gave them money after release and regret it then you should learn to read a wide range of reviews or try a bit before you invest. If you gave them money after release and have no regrets well I guess everyone's standards are different. Some very low, some high. I actually like this game, but then I'm an ex eve player so I'm used to it / my standards are quite low :P I even purchased a merc pack the other day because I would like to help support this game. Having said that I still see this as a beta product. Both in terms of bugs/glitches/memory leaks still needing work, as well as not at least having fleshed out vehicles for all races, finally a heavy and scout for each race. At this point I feel the game would be pretty solid, anything after that I would see as 'expansion content' -for lack of a better term.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2817	Posted - 2013.06.23 18:56:00 - [16] - Quote PLANETSIDETwo OnPS4 wrote: So the jita riots are connected with the ddos attacks and the Planetside 2 bomber? I dont think so. CCP taught us to be backstabbing gankers, they get ganked and the game suffers. Hail to the debacle514 What? Are you high? The riots were no where near related to the recent DDoS attacks. You must be trolling.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 739	Posted - 2013.06.23 19:11:00 - [17] - Quote Where do all these churlish nitwits come from? And how come we still have the penicide bomber running rampant?
ALAINAgg Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.06.23 22:43:00 - [18] - Quote You having trouble spelling? +ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö Anyways yes this should be in beta stage still. Full release is for marketing legal reasons, similar to the mmofps tag.
KellyJann Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.06.24 03:36:00 - [19] - Quote Yeah this game feels alot more like alpha than beta actually. Really clunky and non responsive. Release means nothing realky besides the ability to charge without reset.


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