DUST Search - Idea help balance vehicles well tanks at least.

Aviatnaut wrote:

WhiteMage7322 wrote:

Aviatnaut wrote:

WhiteMage7322 wrote:

Nope. Forge guns will become useless if so. The only way they would get ammo is at the supply depot but then that is a problem too, in skirmish there is only like one map with the depot, what about against LAV? If the forge takes too long the LAV can get out of sight so easily.

Edit: I mean Ambush

idk about useless(they won't be useless), and that thing u said about LAVs, read the damn title.

Damn? XD I am pointing that out since everyone will whine about it, if they listen to what you want to do with the forge. Taking a few shots off the forge will not stop people from whining. If you know that your tank can't handle a few forge gun hits then don't go out on open spaces, expecting it to be a killing machine and I have seen so many tanks that can take out my AV dropsuit without them losing their shields.

the forge guns bullet speed is near instant, so if they wait for you to pop around a corner shoot one shot and then they can have enough time to fire off a second before you round the corner for cover, they need to have reduced bullet speed maybe.

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Aviatnaut Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.16 05:38:00 - [1] - Quote Give swarms and forge guns 3/4ths the ammo capacity they have now but make it so they cannot replenish ammo from nanohives, only supply depots. This will help balance tanks because i noticed people with forge guns would stand on a nanohive all game long and just shoot at unexpecting tanks. Also make it so swarms have more range but can't curve around buildings so easily, and give forge guns less damage over range. Edit: just an idea so don't effing bish me out over this either, but i think it will help retain the damage but not this constant pressure they AV has right now.
WhiteMage7322 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 54	Posted - 2013.06.16 05:43:00 - [2] - Quote If they do that, then I want the forge gun to charge up faster. Make it 75% faster.
Aviatnaut Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.16 05:44:00 - [3] - Quote WhiteMage7322 wrote: If they do that, then I want the forge gun to charge up faster. Make it 75% faster. how about maybe 10% 15% max but 75% hell no
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 117	Posted - 2013.06.16 05:46:00 - [4] - Quote How about you just become a better vehicle driver.
Aviatnaut Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.16 05:48:00 - [5] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: How about you just become a better vehicle driver. if by become a better vehicle driver you mean put on the railgun and basically snipe in a giant armored dropsuit with a few seats then eh i could do that but that really defeats the purpose of the tank.
WhiteMage7322 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 54	Posted - 2013.06.16 05:49:00 - [6] - Quote Nope. Forge guns will become useless if so. The only way they would get ammo is at the supply depot but then that is a problem too, in skirmish there is only like one map with the depot, what about against LAV? If the forge takes too long the LAV can get out of sight so easily. Edit: I mean Ambush
Aviatnaut Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.16 05:52:00 - [7] - Quote WhiteMage7322 wrote: Nope. Forge guns will become useless if so. The only way they would get ammo is at the supply depot but then that is a problem too, in skirmish there is only like one map with the depot, what about against LAV? If the forge takes too long the LAV can get out of sight so easily. Edit: I mean Ambush idk about useless(they won't be useless), and that thing u said about LAVs, read the damn title.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 117	Posted - 2013.06.16 05:52:00 - [8] - Quote Aviatnaut wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: How about you just become a better vehicle driver. if by become a better vehicle driver you mean put on the railgun and basically snipe in a giant armored dropsuit with a few seats then eh i could do that but that really defeats the purpose of the tank. Oh so you expect to just drive your blaster tank the entire match killing infantry without repercussions? You bring out your tank start killing then all of a sudden there are a bunch of swarms and forges, that should be your notice to probably recall because the other team is attempting to counter you.
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 12	Posted - 2013.06.16 05:53:00 - [9] - Quote All you crybabies if you don't like getting your tank destroyed don't pull it out.
Aviatnaut Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.16 05:58:00 - [10] - Quote WUT ANG wrote: All you crybabies if you don't like getting your tank destroyed don't pull it out. all you crybabies if you didn't like your dropsuit being destroyed by vehicles then don't pull it out. (nice one WUT ANG i see logic is your strong point)

Aviatnaut Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.16 06:07:00 - [11] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Aviatnaut wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: How about you just become a better vehicle driver. if by become a better vehicle driver you mean put on the railgun and basically snipe in a giant armored dropsuit with a few seats then eh i could do that but that really defeats the purpose of the tank. Oh so you expect to just drive your blaster tank the entire match killing infantry without repercussions? You bring out your tank start killing then all of a sudden there are a bunch of swarms and forges, that should be your notice to probably recall because the other team is attempting to counter you. Did you at all read what i said in the original post? i didn't say nerf the living balls out of AV and make blaster tanks 1 hit kill infantry did I....... Nope
WhiteMage7322 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 54	Posted - 2013.06.16 06:07:00 - [12] - Quote Aviatnaut wrote: WhiteMage7322 wrote: Nope. Forge guns will become useless if so. The only way they would get ammo is at the supply depot but then that is a problem too, in skirmish there is only like one map with the depot, what about against LAV? If the forge takes too long the LAV can get out of sight so easily. Edit: I mean Ambush idk about useless(they won't be useless), and that thing u said about LAVs, read the damn title. Damn? XD I am pointing that out since everyone will whine about it, if they listen to what you want to do with the forge. Taking a few shots off the forge will not stop people from whining. If you know that your tank can't handle a few forge gun hits then don't go out on open spaces, expecting it to be a killing machine and I have seen so many tanks that can take out my AV dropsuit without them losing their shields.
Aviatnaut Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.16 06:10:00 - [13] - Quote WhiteMage7322 wrote: Aviatnaut wrote: WhiteMage7322 wrote: Nope. Forge guns will become useless if so. The only way they would get ammo is at the supply depot but then that is a problem too, in skirmish there is only like one map with the depot, what about against LAV? If the forge takes too long the LAV can get out of sight so easily. Edit: I mean Ambush idk about useless(they won't be useless), and that thing u said about LAVs, read the damn title. Damn? XD I am pointing that out since everyone will whine about it, if they listen to what you want to do with the forge. Taking a few shots off the forge will not stop people from whining. If you know that your tank can't handle a few forge gun hits then don't go out on open spaces, expecting it to be a killing machine and I have seen so many tanks that can take out my AV dropsuit without them losing their shields. the forge guns bullet speed is near instant, so if they wait for you to pop around a corner shoot one shot and then they can have enough time to fire off a second before you round the corner for cover, they need to have reduced bullet speed maybe.
Thumb Green THE STAR BORN Dark Taboo 121	Posted - 2013.06.16 06:22:00 - [14] - Quote Sure let's do that but only if swarms lock on faster as well and do away with tanks having unlimited ammo and make the only place they can replenish their ammo be under their team's MCC.
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 13	Posted - 2013.06.16 06:22:00 - [15] - Quote Ccp needs to hire a nanny to stop all this crying on the forums.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 118	Posted - 2013.06.16 06:25:00 - [16] - Quote Aviatnaut wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Aviatnaut wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: How about you just become a better vehicle driver. if by become a better vehicle driver you mean put on the railgun and basically snipe in a giant armored dropsuit with a few seats then eh i could do that but that really defeats the purpose of the tank. Oh so you expect to just drive your blaster tank the entire match killing infantry without repercussions? You bring out your tank start killing then all of a sudden there are a bunch of swarms and forges, that should be your notice to probably recall because the other team is attempting to counter you. Did you at all read what i said in the original post? i didn't say nerf the living balls out of AV and make blaster tanks 1 hit kill infantry did I....... Nope I did read it, there is a reason heavies don't have equipment slots, they can't carry their own nanohives.
WhiteMage7322 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 54	Posted - 2013.06.16 06:27:00 - [17] - Quote Aviatnaut wrote: WhiteMage7322 wrote: Aviatnaut wrote: WhiteMage7322 wrote: Nope. Forge guns will become useless if so. The only way they would get ammo is at the supply depot but then that is a problem too, in skirmish there is only like one map with the depot, what about against LAV? If the forge takes too long the LAV can get out of sight so easily. Edit: I mean Ambush idk about useless(they won't be useless), and that thing u said about LAVs, read the damn title. Damn? XD I am pointing that out since everyone will whine about it, if they listen to what you want to do with the forge. Taking a few shots off the forge will not stop people from whining. If you know that your tank can't handle a few forge gun hits then don't go out on open spaces, expecting it to be a killing machine and I have seen so many tanks that can take out my AV dropsuit without them losing their shields. the forge guns bullet speed is near instant, so if they wait for you to pop around a corner shoot one shot and then they can have enough time to fire off a second before you round the corner for cover, they need to have reduced bullet speed maybe. Still, tanks can repair/recharge their amor/shield. If someone knows about tanks, then they will know to retreat when they are going to get destroyed. Even if a heavy gets the surprise on the tank, but if it was close then they would have been shot by the tank and even if they are alive, they are not dumb enough to try to get a second shot on the tank. The only thing the tank should get a 1-2% buff on CPU and PG. Tanks are not used for being a one man killing machine. A tank, with a great logi and support from the team can become something frightening.
Aviatnaut Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.16 06:28:00 - [18] - Quote WUT ANG wrote: Ccp needs to hire a nanny to stop all this crying on the forums. where do you see "crying" i see people putting effort into trying to make the game better, unlike you who is trying to make a bad overused and irrelevant joke seem funny.
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 13	Posted - 2013.06.16 06:38:00 - [19] - Quote Your all crying. av is fine actually av needs a buff. You tankers cry when your madruger or gunnlogi gets destroyed fast because someone is hitting with advanced or proto av you have to remember those are only standard havs you haven't even seen proto havs yet and when they do show up I bet you won't be on here trying to get a av buff will you?
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 109	Posted - 2013.06.16 06:41:00 - [20] - Quote idk i sat on a nano hive and i was unable to get rid of the tanks sitting ontop of hills sniping after about 30+ swarms



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