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PO0KY
Armored Wolves
Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:57:00 -
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Why is everyone saying shield tanks are underpowered? Simply put a large missile turret on and it's completely balanced! A missile turret does 120% damage to armor, so it's quite easy to tear through armo tanks. Also, missile turrets take less pg to equip, so you can actually run proto modules on it! It hurts my mind when I see a gunnlogi with a blaster. If you learn how to use things like they're intended to be used, you'll find the game is a Lot more balanced than you think. |
Cy Clone1
Ill Omens
EoN.
19
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Posted - 2013.06.13 04:06:00 -
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Blasters on gunlogis are silly.
The large missile turrets give poor results when facing infantry, (unless using fragmented) and are useless vs any rail gun tank.
They are only more powerful in a specific window vs blasters and seeing how shield tanks have low speeds, the window tends to close extremely quickly.
It is pointless to use them in corp battles as well due to friendly fire and the fact that everyone uses rails
. I still had lots of fun using them but to say they make tanks balanced is unjustified.
I am curious if you are a shield tanker that uses missiles? |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
2228
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Posted - 2013.06.13 04:08:00 -
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loltanks |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
850
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Posted - 2013.06.13 04:18:00 -
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Gunnlogi. Compressed rail.
I like using shield tanks as a support vehicle for infantry due to its natural explosive resistance and shield regeneration. Lets me take all the militia swarms I could ever want and still laugh it off. AV nades are a joke to a decent shield tank too, whereas both of these would absolutely tear though armor.
I may not get many kills, but if I can force a few people on the other team into AV roles and focus on me, it makes it much easier for blueberries to wipe the floor with them. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
337
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Posted - 2013.06.13 04:47:00 -
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PO0KY wrote:Why is everyone saying shield tanks are underpowered? Simply put a large missile turret on and it's completely balanced! A missile turret does 120% damage to armor, so it's quite easy to tear through armo tanks.
Missile turrets also have half the DPS or so, calculate it and you'll find that even with the damage bonus they can't compete against armor tanks or any tank for that matter using a blaster or railgun.
Coming as an HAV pilot for well over a year, the thing is most infantry AV has penalties versus shields so shield tanks do well in that department... HOWEVER... In-game you'll find that blasters and railguns should do equal damage to shields and armor due to being hybrids but DON'T and actually have a small bonus against shields and a small penalty against armor. This results in armor tanks having a significant advantage in HAV vs HAV fights...
Next, consider the modules, the Shield Boosters rep slower and have a lower rep total then the armor repper equivalents... Worse, consider the active damage reduction modules, the shield damage reduction active modules only last ten seconds compared to the armor's 30 second hardeners, which makes it very bad in a gunfight as those last 15-30 seconds.
Shields while wonderful against infantry, are woefully underpowered in anti-HAV operations and are overal module for module inferior to armor tanks. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3511
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Posted - 2013.06.13 04:54:00 -
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Shield hardeners need a buff |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
827
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Posted - 2013.06.13 05:00:00 -
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Take a Shield with Missiles up against an Armor with a railgun. Tell me know it goes for ya. |
Crimson Judgment
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
9
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:01:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Take a Shield with Missiles up against an Armor with a railgun. Tell me know it goes for ya.
lol missile vs blaster doesn't even work well due to the extreme gap between armor and shield modules not to mention
shield tanks should be faster,
and don't worry i don't always us large missile turrets but when i do i use the fragmented,
and if anyone has any further questions about shield tanks vs armor tanks and missile turrets vs blaster and railgun please refer to this lets hope they fix it "SOON" |
Exergonic
TeamPlayers
EoN.
47
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:22:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Take a Shield with Missiles up against an Armor with a railgun. Tell me know it goes for ya.
my Falcion will 3 shot armor tanks with proto accel missles... Rail has a slow tracking speed... Come up behind the tank get 2 bursts off before he can even spin his turret
Not saying Missles are better then rails... Just saying everything has its use |
PO0KY
Armored Wolves
Alpha Wolf Pack
11
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:58:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:Blasters on gunlogis are silly.
The large missile turrets give poor results when facing infantry, (unless using fragmented) and are useless vs any rail gun tank.
They are only more powerful in a specific window vs blasters and seeing how shield tanks have low speeds, the window tends to close extremely quickly.
It is pointless to use them in corp battles as well due to friendly fire and the fact that everyone uses rails
. I still had lots of fun using them but to say they make tanks balanced is unjustified.
I am curious if you are a shield tanker that uses missiles?
Yes I am |
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PO0KY
Armored Wolves
Alpha Wolf Pack
11
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:59:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Take a Shield with Missiles up against an Armor with a railgun. Tell me know it goes for ya.
I have... Many, many times. |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
587
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Posted - 2013.06.13 14:41:00 -
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Bring any shield against me. Let me know how it goes. :) I have never had gunnlogi or enforcer beat me 1v1 with missiles. I have had enforcers get the drop on me and I still turn on them and kill them.
Sorry but shields need a buff slightly. and that needs to be done to the modules I think.
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FatalFlaw V1
ISK Faucet Industries
92
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Posted - 2013.06.13 14:42:00 -
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Missiles were good until they put the range nerf on them. They already have less accuracy and velocity than rails and blasters. The range nerf wasn't necessary in my opinion. |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
361
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Posted - 2013.06.13 14:54:00 -
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if shield tanks are UP, then armor tanks must be the equiv of a militia lav. I do alot of av, and can say that I have way more trouble killing a shield tank than a armor tank ( a real tank, not a militia varient pos with yellow mods on it...) |
Crimson Czar
0uter.Heaven
League of Infamy
6
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:29:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:loltanks
We are heavies... Jokes on us too!! |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1269
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:30:00 -
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lolmissiles |
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