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lowratehitman
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Posted - 2013.06.10 15:57:00 -
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Here is what I am working with as far as my build and core skills. If you have any suggestions besides eat a flux grenade, than please share your ideas. I have really been enjoying this build and it has taken me a minute to adjust, but I believe I am ready for the long haul now.
Dust 514: Minmatar MK.0 Racial Prototype Build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD8UjNa-Tzc&feature=youtu.be |
Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.10 15:59:00 -
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Ewww, Minmatar filth.
Hopefully someday you will be reclaimed in the name of God. |
Doctor Nihk
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:02:00 -
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Core flaylock. Why smg? |
lowratehitman
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:04:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Ewww, Minmatar filth.
Hopefully someday you will be reclaimed in the name of God.
lol! |
lowratehitman
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:05:00 -
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Doctor Nihk wrote:Core flaylock. Why smg?
i am trying to stick with the basics |
Doctor Nihk
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:09:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:Doctor Nihk wrote:Core flaylock. Why smg? i am trying to stick with the basics
Specialist flayock draws 0 pg.. Core draws 2pg and 40ish cpu. Just a suggestion. Great build tho brother. As always, enjoy your vids. |
lowratehitman
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:18:00 -
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Doctor Nihk wrote:lowratehitman wrote:Doctor Nihk wrote:Core flaylock. Why smg? i am trying to stick with the basics Specialist flayock draws 0 pg.. Core draws 2pg and 40ish cpu. Just a suggestion. Great build tho brother. As always, enjoy your vids.
Thanks man..I appreciate it. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:19:00 -
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I think he likes the constant stream of bullets - hence the SMG and AR
I want to build my Assault after I finish my Scout. You have given me some alt builds to the one I want to build so thanks for that. |
lowratehitman
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:42:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:I think he likes the constant stream of bullets - hence the SMG and AR
I want to build my Assault after I finish my Scout. You have given me some alt builds to the one I want to build so thanks for that.
I do enjoy the bullets... |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:42:00 -
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plus the 25% increase to side arm clips.
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Knarf Black
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:44:00 -
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Pros: Speed, high slots, 1hp/s armor regen, sidearm mag size
Cons: Only two lows and good luck getting decent mods in both of them; not a lot of potential variety in fittings |
Sontie
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:52:00 -
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Have you tried putting 3 extenders, a COMPLEX recharger, a complex sidearm damage mod, an enhanced kin cat instead of a regulator, and two sidearms? Maybe a pistol for medium shortish range and a smg for cqc?
Hit hard and fast and then get out. Circle back around and hit them from the flank at full strength again. |
Sontie
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:14:00 -
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As it is, you're not taking advantage of what makes minmatar a minmatar (speed and adaptability). You might as well have gone caldari. |
Rupture Reaperson
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:43:00 -
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Hitting you up on psn, maybe we can brainstorm some crazy ****. |
lowratehitman
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:53:00 -
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Sontie wrote:Have you tried putting 3 extenders, a COMPLEX recharger, a complex sidearm damage mod, an enhanced kin cat instead of a regulator, and two sidearms? Maybe a pistol for medium shortish range and a smg for cqc?
Hit hard and fast and then get out. Circle back around and hit them from the flank at full strength again.
I have thought about it indeed, the sp is whats holding me back right now, and I feel like i did not waste any...soon I will try this. |
lowratehitman
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:56:00 -
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Sontie wrote:As it is, you're not taking advantage of what makes minmatar a minmatar (speed and adaptability). You might as well have gone caldari.
Not true...if I wanted true speed I would of went scout. Not wearing armour and letting the natural armour rep do its thing is natural. A kin cat will not boost speed by much and eats limited pg. |
True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:57:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Ewww, Minmatar filth.
Hopefully someday you will be reclaimed in the name of God.
He shall but for now let the Minmatar think they have their freedom. Gone are the days of Jovian intervention. |
lowratehitman
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:57:00 -
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Rupture Reaperson wrote:Hitting you up on psn, maybe we can brainstorm some crazy ****. We can do this! |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:06:00 -
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You should run dualie Ish Subs. I guess the AR gives you a range edge if you need it, but if you like to rush anyways, a second sub of 100 rnds would work fine. Less CPU/PG as well, no? |
lowratehitman
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:17:00 -
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mollerz wrote:You should run dualie Ish Subs. I guess the AR gives you a range edge if you need it, but if you like to rush anyways, a second sub of 100 rnds would work fine. Less CPU/PG as well, no?
The range advantage is a must. If you get that advantage, and they go for cover, you are able to swap back smg and rush their position very fast the majority if the time and catch them off guard.
The old gun game was duck and cover..repeat. now the speed is added and you can mix it up well. |
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Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:27:00 -
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For an extra amount of CPU, (I know you are CPU starved) if you can fit 7 more, I would recommend you use the X-3 Nanohives. Same price, same clusters and amount on the field, but better ammo resupply rate. |
Brolaire of Asstoria
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:33:00 -
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Similar to what I'm running on mine though I have an advanced armour rep on the low side to supplement the suits base reps. |
lowratehitman
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:48:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:For an extra amount of CPU, (I know you are CPU starved) if you can fit 7 more, I would recommend you use the X-3 Nanohives. Same price, same clusters and amount on the field, but better ammo resupply rate.
I will look into that..thanks! |
Lavirac JR
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:03:00 -
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Interesting build, I was thinking about a build similar to this for a while for when I get my respec. Instead I am going to go Gallente Logi, I like the equipment slots and remote explosives.... |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:18:00 -
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Looks like you fell into the secondary skill trap a lot of us did. With the exception of proficiency, a lot of those skills are useless SP sinks because they're percentage based and not weapon specific. In your case though, ammo capacity could be a bit beneficial for the SMG since you're using at a primary, but probably not something immediate. Rapid reload is kind of useless unless you're a heavy because at max level, you're only getting a -0.45 second reduction to your reload time for what ~1,000,000 SP in each weapon? If you're having PG problems after you max engineering, fitting optimization could be worth looking into. max level for the AR and SMG will take off -1.65 PG for both the GEK and Ishukone. Still, that's a lot of SP to invest into a negligible SP sink that needs to be weapon specific.
As far as shield regulators go, I don't think they're that beneficial to a Minmatar assault since you're relying on hit and run tactics anyway. I would probably work on cardiac regulators and kinetic centralizers in those low slots. Just with the core skill maxed, my logi can outrun your assault, for longer too, and that's with a pair of basic plates on my suit. (No, logis aren't OP either!) But you got the right idea on the shield recharger and that underrated assault suit bonus. I swear, you're the only person I've seen that pays attention to shield rechargers and regulators in this game, everyone seems to focus on buffer tanking to play CoD 514.
Minmatar assault is a very fun to use suit to use once people stop treating it like a frontline class. |
Son-Of A-Gun
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:38:00 -
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The single complex regulator isn't worth it. Puts your regen delay time down from 5 sec to 3.75 for a total of 1.25 gain. If you were stacking regulators it would be worth it. Two regulators would put you at 2.664 seconds regen time. However it looks like your are struggling for CPU as it is. I would recomend ditching the regulators and either double stacking basic armor plates and coupling that with repaire nanos, or a single basic or enhanced plate and the best armor repaerer you can equip.
Get rid of the gek and pack another proto sidarm (either flaylock or scrambler - if scrambler make sure it is an assault variant).
Get rid of the recharger and one of your extenders and double stack complex sidearm damage mods.
that's how I'd run it. |
MASS DR1V3R
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:43:00 -
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People in this thread are making the mistake of thinking that if you run dual sidearms with a Complex Sidearm Damage mod that it will affect both weapons. The Complex Sidearm Damage mod would only affect the weapon in the sidearm slot. You would need to run a Complex Sidearm Damage mod and a Complex Light Weapon Damage mod to affect both weapons even if they are both sidearms. |
Son-Of A-Gun
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:46:00 -
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MASS DR1V3R wrote:People in this thread are making the mistake of thinking that if you run dual sidearms with a Complex Sidearm Damage mod that it will affect both weapons. The Complex Sidearm Damage mod would only affect the weapon in the sidearm slot. You would need to run a Complex Sidearm Damage mod and a Complex Light Weapon Damage mod to affect both weapons even if they are both sidearms.
Wrong. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:46:00 -
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MASS DR1V3R wrote:People in this thread are making the mistake of thinking that if you run dual sidearms with a Complex Sidearm Damage mod that it will affect both weapons. The Complex Sidearm Damage mod would only affect the weapon in the sidearm slot. You would need to run a Complex Sidearm Damage mod and a Complex Light Weapon Damage mod to affect both weapons even if they are both sidearms. Not true, it affects all equipped sidearms just like the racial skill affects sidearm clip size when you use dual sidearms. |
mollerz
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Posted - 2013.06.11 02:14:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:mollerz wrote:You should run dualie Ish Subs. I guess the AR gives you a range edge if you need it, but if you like to rush anyways, a second sub of 100 rnds would work fine. Less CPU/PG as well, no? The range advantage is a must. If you get that advantage, and they go for cover, you are able to swap back smg and rush their position very fast the majority of the time and catch them off guard. The old gun game was duck and cover..repeat. now the speed is added and you can mix it up well.
interesting.. How are your biotic skills? A kin cat in place of the regen and run dualie subs (or not).. just try the speed buff over the regen at least. skills applicable of course. you might find you like it better for rushing. And yea- toss on one E or C Dam mod. You might find you don't need the shield buffed so hard because you kill people so much faster. And escape fire faster.
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