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Gauder Berwyck wrote:

Yeah, yeah....

The Cal Logi doesn't have a sidearm, making the Cal Logi worse than the assault for the assaults intended role.

- No sidearm means that if you equip a swarm launcher for long range AV engagements then you are suddenly defenseless, in effect it means no long range AV option for the logi.
- No sidearm means no option to swith to an SMG for that last blow. If we have to reload, then we have to reload or throw a grenade, there are no other options.

And then some people want to remove the light weapon slot all together on the logi suits. Not just the Cal Logi suit, but ALL logi suits. I mean, what the f...? But I guess I should never underestimate stupidity, even when it's the blinding kind of stupidity that doesn't make you see the logic even when it's standing right in front of you.

Sollution to the Cal Logi, remove a high slot.
Sollution to the rest of the Logis, nothing. Don't touch them!

And if you have trouble killing the Cal Logis then seriously HTFU. I'm a scrub and even I can kill them :p

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Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 424	Posted - 2013.06.10 04:43:00 - [1] - Quote Its called Caldari logi.
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 187	Posted - 2013.06.10 04:44:00 - [2] - Quote Herp-Derp Assault-Logis Derp-Derp
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 167	Posted - 2013.06.10 04:52:00 - [3] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Herp-Derp Scrubs Derp-Derp Fixed that for you
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 601	Posted - 2013.06.10 04:54:00 - [4] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: Its called Caldari logi. your not cat merc are you? because that would totally make sense.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 425	Posted - 2013.06.10 04:55:00 - [5] - Quote ladwar wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: Its called Caldari logi. your not cat merc are you? because that would totally make sense. Yes, yes I am.
Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 263	Posted - 2013.06.10 04:58:00 - [6] - Quote It's called Flux Grenades + HMG. Caldari Logis have so far seemed pretty squishy to me. (Yes, I understand the complaint behind lopsided racial bonuses...)
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 426	Posted - 2013.06.10 05:00:00 - [7] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: It's called Flux Grenades + HMG. Caldari Logis have so far seemed pretty squishy to me. (Yes, I understand the complaint behind lopsided racial bonuses...) So what about the Caldari assault? Or Caldari medium frame? Also, why do I need to switch up my grenades just to counter a suit that is practically better than any other suit in the game?
Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 263	Posted - 2013.06.10 05:06:00 - [8] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: So what about the Caldari assault? Or Caldari medium frame? Equally squishy. Quote: Also, why do I need to switch up my grenades just to counter a suit that is practically better than any other suit in the game? Honestly, I switched up my grenades because I noticed a whole ton of people from all walks of life shield tanking. Helps me mow 'em down easier. Give it a shot, I honestly think you'd like it. But all that aside, I totally understand why Caldari Assaults are miffed. The Logi does their job better than they do. I'd change the Squid Logi bonus to make the Squid Assault more relevant, not because it affects my Heavy in any meaningful way.
Superhero Rawdon Bloodwolves Battalion 35	Posted - 2013.06.10 05:07:00 - [9] - Quote flux grenades + HMG + complex armor repairer = win
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 426	Posted - 2013.06.10 05:08:00 - [10] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: So what about the Caldari assault? Or Caldari medium frame? Equally squishy. Quote: Also, why do I need to switch up my grenades just to counter a suit that is practically better than any other suit in the game? Honestly, I switched up my grenades because I noticed a whole ton of people from all walks of life shield tanking. Helps me mow 'em down easier. Give it a shot, I honestly think you'd like it. But all that aside, I totally understand why Caldari Assaults are miffed. The Logi does their job better than they do. I'd change the Squid Logi bonus to make the Squid Assault more relevant, not because it affects my Heavy in any meaningful way. That's exactly my point.
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 256	Posted - 2013.06.10 05:27:00 - [11] - Quote Yeah, yeah.... The Cal Logi doesn't have a sidearm, making the Cal Logi worse than the assault for the assaults intended role. - No sidearm means that if you equip a swarm launcher for long range AV engagements then you are suddenly defenseless, in effect it means no long range AV option for the logi. - No sidearm means no option to swith to an SMG for that last blow. If we have to reload, then we have to reload or throw a grenade, there are no other options. And then some people want to remove the light weapon slot all together on the logi suits. Not just the Cal Logi suit, but ALL logi suits. I mean, what the f...? But I guess I should never underestimate stupidity, even when it's the blinding kind of stupidity that doesn't make you see the logic even when it's standing right in front of you. Sollution to the Cal Logi, remove a high slot. Sollution to the rest of the Logis, nothing. Don't touch them! And if you have trouble killing the Cal Logis then seriously HTFU. I'm a scrub and even I can kill them :p
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 428	Posted - 2013.06.10 05:28:00 - [12] - Quote Gauder Berwyck wrote: Yeah, yeah.... The Cal Logi doesn't have a sidearm, making the Cal Logi worse than the assault for the assaults intended role. - No sidearm means that if you equip a swarm launcher for long range AV engagements then you are suddenly defenseless, in effect it means no long range AV option for the logi. - No sidearm means no option to swith to an SMG for that last blow. If we have to reload, then we have to reload or throw a grenade, there are no other options. And then some people want to remove the light weapon slot all together on the logi suits. Not just the Cal Logi suit, but ALL logi suits. I mean, what the f...? But I guess I should never underestimate stupidity, even when it's the blinding kind of stupidity that doesn't make you see the logic even when it's standing right in front of you. Sollution to the Cal Logi, remove a high slot. Sollution to the rest of the Logis, nothing. Don't touch them! And if you have trouble killing the Cal Logis then seriously HTFU. I'm a scrub and even I can kill them :p Its not that they're hard. Its that they're harder for no reason.
Darth-Carbonite GIO R.I.f.t 13	Posted - 2013.06.10 05:32:00 - [13] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: It's called Flux Grenades + HMG. Caldari Logis have so far seemed pretty squishy to me. (Yes, I understand the complaint behind lopsided racial bonuses...) Finally, someone that understands. It's simple rock-paper-scissors.
Cass Barr Red Star. EoN. 174	Posted - 2013.06.10 05:37:00 - [14] - Quote People would rather complain than use Flux Grenades, simple as that. Never mind that the large majority of suits in use are shield tanked and that landing a flux on them makes them all nice and squishy.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 428	Posted - 2013.06.10 05:38:00 - [15] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Disturbingly Bored wrote: It's called Flux Grenades + HMG. Caldari Logis have so far seemed pretty squishy to me. (Yes, I understand the complaint behind lopsided racial bonuses...) Finally, someone that understands. It's simple rock-paper-scissors. Actually, armor too has its own rock. Any explosive. The difference being that flux bring you shields down. Explosives outright kill you. Ever saw an assault with three complex plates and a complex armor rep die in a single hit by a mass driver/flaylock/grenade? I have.
Superhero Rawdon Bloodwolves Battalion 37	Posted - 2013.06.10 05:42:00 - [16] - Quote Cass Barr wrote: People would rather complain than use Flux Grenades, simple as that. Never mind that the large majority of suits in use are shield tanked and that landing a flux on them makes them all nice and squishy. yeah, very true. but doing this while being shot by a glu, duvolle, or gek........even in proto gear
Novawolf McDustingham The514th The Official Mintchip Fanclub 205	Posted - 2013.06.10 06:31:00 - [17] - Quote Who stands around to fight it out once they get fluxed? Oh, right... Heavies because they can't run...
KingBabar The-Butterfly-Effect 780	Posted - 2013.06.10 06:50:00 - [18] - Quote Well I got my suit up to 1135 HP if I remember correctly, that was with 5 shield extenders and 4 enhanced plates. - I used 3 compact hives, fused nades and a Duvolle It is however not a viable option for that suit IMO. It got old really fast....
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 429	Posted - 2013.06.10 06:51:00 - [19] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Well I got my suit up to 1135 HP if I remember correctly, that was with 5 shield extenders and 4 enhanced plates. - I used 3 compact hives, fused nades and a Duvolle It is however not a viable option for that suit IMO. It got old really fast.... That's a dumb fit. Replace all of those plates with a single armor rep, kinetic catalyzers, cpu/pg enhancements as needed and shield regs. You become an unbeatable mofo.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 119	Posted - 2013.06.10 07:08:00 - [20] - Quote I understand the complaint and support toning it down, but it's times like these where I really love my Amarr laser tech.
Novawolf McDustingham The514th The Official Mintchip Fanclub 205	Posted - 2013.06.10 07:08:00 - [21] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: KingBabar wrote: Well I got my suit up to 1135 HP if I remember correctly, that was with 5 shield extenders and 4 enhanced plates. - I used 3 compact hives, fused nades and a Duvolle It is however not a viable option for that suit IMO. It got old really fast.... That's a dumb fit. Replace all of those plates with a single armor rep, kinetic catalyzers, cpu/pg enhancements as needed and shield regs. You become an unbeatable mofo. Kinetic catalizers are overrated PG eaters. Just stick to double reps and regulators.
Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 264	Posted - 2013.06.10 13:34:00 - [22] - Quote Novawolf McDustingham The514th wrote: Who stands around to fight it out once they get fluxed? Oh, right... Heavies because they can't run... I have absolutely no problems with gatting people in the back. I prefer it when they run.

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