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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.09 00:33:00 -
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give tanks 5% pg per level skill back
then make shield tanks faster and faster acceleration, something that ways more accelerates faster and goes faster than something that weighs less makes no sense according to physics
then give shield remote resistance mods a longer lasting effect or a smaller cool down
boom, you have balance!! |
padraic darby
planetary tactical enforcement
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Posted - 2013.06.09 02:45:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:give tanks 5% pg per level skill back
then make shield tanks faster and faster acceleration, something that ways more accelerates faster and goes faster than something that weighs less makes no sense according to physics
then give shield remote resistance mods a longer lasting effect or a smaller cool down
boom, you have balance!!
the mini tank needs to be the fastest |
Brutus Va'Khan
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.09 02:54:00 -
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Everyone knows that the shield generators use by Caldari are giant. To make it worse, the design specs put the generator where the engine is, requiring a weaker, smaller engine in order to fit everything.
CCP logic. |
SickJ
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.09 03:19:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:gsomething that weighs more accelerates faster and goes faster than something that weighs less makes no sense according to physics
My brother will be glad to hear that his 50cc dirtbike has better acceleration than a Lambourghini. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.06.09 03:28:00 -
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SickJ wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:gsomething that weighs more accelerates faster and goes faster than something that weighs less makes no sense according to physics
My brother will be glad to hear that his 50cc dirtbike has better acceleration than a Lambourghini. that like saying you can ran faster than a car. its not really the same thing. both tanks are similar in size so if anything it would be comparing a Lamborghini to ford pinto. |
Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:14:00 -
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If you wouldn't mind taking a look at Fix Shield Tanking |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
899
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:28:00 -
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Can I use an analogy too? I promise it will be overly complex.
It's like we are comparing a Semi (no trailer) to a bus.
the Semi has more pick up and go, and can go faster longer because it's pretty much all engine - put some weight on it and it'll go slower but it is made to take it and keep moving.
the Bus is pretty big, but it is designed to use that size to hold passengers/shield generators so it does not have the same mobility as the semi. The bus was made for longer range combat so it's not meant to be a frontline combat unit like the semi truck.
Unfortunately the semi can carry the same railgun with the same power as the bus, but with better defenses and similar damage output. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:42:00 -
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yup.. clearly broken |
Vickers S Grunt
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.09 07:47:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:Can I use an analogy too? I promise it will be overly complex.
It's like we are comparing a Semi (no trailer) to a bus.
the Semi has more pick up and go, and can go faster longer because it's pretty much all engine - put some weight on it and it'll go slower but it is made to take it and keep moving.
the Bus is pretty big, but it is designed to use that size to hold passengers/shield generators so it does not have the same mobility as the semi. The bus was made for longer range combat so it's not meant to be a frontline combat unit like the semi truck.
Unfortunately the semi can carry the same railgun with the same power as the bus, but with better defenses and similar damage output.
This
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
125
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Posted - 2013.06.09 12:53:00 -
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SickJ wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:gsomething that weighs more accelerates faster and goes faster than something that weighs less makes no sense according to physics
My brother will be glad to hear that his 50cc dirtbike has better acceleration than a Lambourghini.
hey, theirs a price difference, physics can be owned by money but their is no reason a 200k isk tank armor tank should accelerate and go faster than a shield tank |
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
125
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Posted - 2013.06.09 12:59:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:Can I use an analogy too? I promise it will be overly complex.
It's like we are comparing a Semi (no trailer) to a bus.
the Semi has more pick up and go, and can go faster longer because it's pretty much all engine - put some weight on it and it'll go slower but it is made to take it and keep moving.
the Bus is pretty big, but it is designed to use that size to hold passengers/shield generators so it does not have the same mobility as the semi. The bus was made for longer range combat so it's not meant to be a frontline combat unit like the semi truck.
Unfortunately the semi can carry the same railgun with the same power as the bus, but with better defenses and similar damage output. tanks are pretty much the same size... but the armor tanks has more weight... about 4x the weight, has a bigger engine sure. but then again.... what should accelerate faster, a v6 car that weighs very little or a v10 pickup truck that weights way more.... i agree the pickup has more torque... but thats for hauling... it still doesn't accelerate faster than the nimble v6 light car... A ford f-150 doesn't accelerate faster than their fusion... simple as that |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
125
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Posted - 2013.06.09 13:08:00 -
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Brutus Va'Khan wrote:Everyone knows that the shield generators use by Caldari are giant. To make it worse, the design specs put the generator where the engine is, requiring a weaker, smaller engine in order to fit everything.
CCP logic.
wtf? |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
135
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Posted - 2013.06.09 14:27:00 -
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OR
Fit a missile or Rail and stay the **** away form me. Anyways, they need to make the passive regen on those a little bit better. That's how you fix them. Reason why we're faster is because we need the speed; you don't. Why would you? Your sitting in the back sniping at things. You don't need speed. That's why Caldari puts weaker engines on their stuff. Gallente use blasters (read: shortest ranged turrets in the game) so they need to get in close fast, which means to overcome their increased mass and make blasters useful, they would need to fit very good engines. and that's what they did. All of you are doing it wrong. |
EXASTRA INVICTAS
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
110
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Posted - 2013.06.09 14:33:00 -
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The "Shield tanks are slower" argument falls apart when the tanks are actually fitted, because a single plate added to a Madrugar (required to not get wtfpwned by proper AV) makes it slower than the Gunnlogi.
The problem is role misunderstanding as well as it being too easy for Madrugars to fit Railguns with high efficiency. Though the Gunnlogi could use a bit of love, it's really not stupidly underpowered. |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
126
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:41:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:OR
Fit a missile or Rail and stay the **** away form me. Anyways, they need to make the passive regen on those a little bit better. That's how you fix them. Reason why we're faster is because we need the speed; you don't. Why would you? Your sitting in the back sniping at things. You don't need speed. That's why Caldari puts weaker engines on their stuff. Gallente use blasters (read: shortest ranged turrets in the game) so they need to get in close fast, which means to overcome their increased mass and make blasters useful, they would need to fit very good engines. and that's what they did. All of you are doing it wrong.
and what if i want to use a blaster? |
Lorhak Gannarsein
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:45:00 -
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From what CCP seems to be telling us, if you want to use a blaster, then use an armour tank! Problem solved. Sorry about your versatility, guys. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
136
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:54:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:OR
Fit a missile or Rail and stay the **** away form me. Anyways, they need to make the passive regen on those a little bit better. That's how you fix them. Reason why we're faster is because we need the speed; you don't. Why would you? Your sitting in the back sniping at things. You don't need speed. That's why Caldari puts weaker engines on their stuff. Gallente use blasters (read: shortest ranged turrets in the game) so they need to get in close fast, which means to overcome their increased mass and make blasters useful, they would need to fit very good engines. and that's what they did. All of you are doing it wrong. and what if i want to use a blaster?
Then your doing it wrong. It's your fault. Blasters are not used, MADE for Gallente dropsuits and vehicles. Not Caldari. HTFU.
Peace, Godin |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
136
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:57:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:From what CCP seems to be telling us, if you want to use a blaster, then use an armour tank! Problem solved. Sorry about your versatility, guys.
Yea, because that's what they're made for. That's why Gallente HAV's are faster, so they can get in close faster. And why Nitro is in HI slots. Kinda simple. You can still use them, just not to the best of their ability. |
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