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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:23:00 -
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For public battles its important to have balanced maps where no one side has the advantage. In planetary conquest however it does not make sense. Defenders own the surface infrastructure present on their districts, and logically they would set it up to give themselves an advantage. The placements of the null cannons, installations, and a selection of preset red-line boundaries should also be included. Giving corps the ability to control the locations of the surface infrastructure as well as other elements (red-line, etc) on their districts would give a better sense of who's attacking and defending, and reinforce the sense of ownership over the districts. This should be in the hands of CEOs and directors, or even a special corp role for this. Obviously there should be constraints so attackers still have a chance.
This would require a lot more sockets; enough to line up small surface infrastructure pieces to make walls. There should be many sockets which can be fitted for null cannons, so the defenders have a big selection of places to place their cannons. There should be many large sockets on maps to give lots of options on where to place options.
I understand something like this will likely take years, anything actually cool takes forever  |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:16:00 -
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Lets start with Skirmish 1.0 :)
Later, combine the above with Penetration mode, where the eggers will have to lay out the defense setup of their ships for when the bunnies come a-boarding. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.06.08 10:09:00 -
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Definately agree. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 16:25:00 -
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G Torq wrote:
Later, combine the above with Penetration mode, where the eggers will have to lay out the defense setup of their ships for when the bunnies come a-boarding.
That would be cool. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 23:07:00 -
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The PC burnout is yet another reason of why this is needed; constantly having to defend one's own territory every day burns players out fast, and makes the game no longer fun, but if we attacked/defended other people's stuff and picked our battles instead of clockwork mandatory battles, then that would not cause players to burnout. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.10 22:51:00 -
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+1 for anything besides those million times seen pub maps.
even randoms are better. Even on pubs it doesn't matter if it is 'unbalanced' as it is just one game. Like 15mins max. And most likely most people and teams won't realise even after the game which side would've had advantage at all...
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Velvet Overkill
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.12 21:10:00 -
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Having this and skirmish 1.0 for PC battles would be amazing. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.06.12 21:24:00 -
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I aprove  |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.14 00:57:00 -
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I really want this to happen. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:43:00 -
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What, no thoughts on this obviously awesome idea? |
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pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:52:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The PC burnout is yet another reason of why this is needed; constantly having to defend one's own territory every day burns players out fast, and makes the game no longer fun, but if we attacked/defended other people's stuff and picked our battles instead of clockwork mandatory battles, then that would not cause players to burnout.
I do believe that players that are feeling burnt out have brought it on themselves by their verry own greed. Dont take too many districts and then your players wouldent feel like fighti g pc and pc only is manditory. I forsaw all this months ago . Realisticky if most corps only held 3-4 districts max then your mercs will feel less burnt out . It would also make room for smaller but capable corps to join pc and thusly enlarging the pc playerbase inturn leaving less mercs feeling burnt out. |
Faquira Bleuetta
0uter.Heaven
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:53:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Lets start with Skirmish 1.0 :)
Later, combine the above with Penetration mode, where the eggers will have to lay out the defense setup of their ships for when the bunnies come a-boarding.
Penetration mode yu cant do that do you forgot tha game is rating 13+ |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.14 19:24:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Lets start with Skirmish 1.0 :)
Later, combine the above with Penetration mode, where the eggers will have to lay out the defense setup of their ships for when the bunnies come a-boarding.
Wouldn't ships come pre-made in a specific configuration? |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.19 08:39:00 -
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Still want to see this happen |
Laurent Cazaderon
What The French
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Posted - 2013.06.19 08:43:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Still want to see this happen
like everybody dude ^^ |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.23 20:18:00 -
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Pew pew |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:46:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34744&p=3
"[REQUEST] Control of district SI, cannon, installation https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=85717&find=unread
Update: Great comments on improving the gameplay. Expect devs to continue this discussion on the forums."
Awaiting dev responses |
Vance Alken
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:47:00 -
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+1 on this, I thought PC was going to have this at the beginning or at least coming down the pipe already...
G Torq wrote:Later, combine the above with Penetration mode, where the eggers will have to lay out the defense setup of their ships for when the bunnies come a-boarding.
Maybe, if not the exact layout, you could still affect where automated and armed NPC fodder defenses are concentrated, and maybe even the location of hasty blockades (destructible objects) in/in-between some areas affecting the flow of the battle for both attack and defense. (eg: your crew has the capability to set up 2 blockades before their boarding party penetrates this area of the ship, do you split the material and troops and block both exits or block one exit twice as hard in an attempt to funnel the party into your now heavily concentrated defenses?) |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:44:00 -
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+1 We're hoping for that. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:52:00 -
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Just adjust installation spawns and such to slightly or more-than-slightly favor the defenders. No need to implement a huge customizable system to achieve this effect. Also adjust redlines so that the defenders can go all the way to the attacker MCC if they choose. If you attack a district, then you shouldn't need artificial barriers preventing you from getting spawncamped like you would in an instant battle.
Of course in the long term, provided adequate development time, a customizable system for districts would be awesome. |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.23 07:59:00 -
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Still would be great. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
5623
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:56:00 -
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Still want |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:48:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Lets start with Skirmish 1.0 :)
Later, combine the above with Penetration mode, where the eggers will have to lay out the defense setup of their ships for when the bunnies come a-boarding.
Devs said they're working on a 3.0 that will incorporate aspects of 1.0.
If nothing else, the fact that I OWN a District, but still have to start a match by scrambling to take anti-MCC batteries that I put there MYSELF (technically) is just silly. |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.31 20:50:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:G Torq wrote:Lets start with Skirmish 1.0 :)
Later, combine the above with Penetration mode, where the eggers will have to lay out the defense setup of their ships for when the bunnies come a-boarding. Devs said they're working on a 3.0 that will incorporate aspects of 1.0. If nothing else, the fact that I OWN a District, but still have to start a match by scrambling to take anti-MCC batteries that I put there MYSELF (technically) is just silly.
Yeah, having a defending corporation that owns everything on the land, having to hack it's own null cannons is just really silly. |
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