DUST Search - How to get more SP?

DUST Fiend wrote:

SENATOR KODOS wrote:

Padmar wrote:

How about an accelerated SP schedule for those of us who are over 60? We don't have 40-70 years left before we can finally kill someone.
I'm exaggerating somewhat. Been playing for 2 months, have about. 3 Mil Lifetime SP, 300K unallocated, and 65.5 Mil ISK. I have like 22 kills and 800 deaths (.02 KR). I'm trying to get ISK RICH by using a Gallente light frame with GEK-38, Militia SMG, Focs grenades, and Militia Nanoinjector. SPs are hard to come by! I get like 1,500-2,500 per battle. I try to stay covered and kill or revive when I can, but I still get killed by mercs I don't even see!
Any suggestions?

Yes
Join a game and hide in the MCC while you watch tv.
I get around 4500 SP depending on whether my team loses or not.
Repeat.

CCP endorses this behavior, and CPM has no intention on pushing for punishments of it.

The best way to play DUST 514 is to not play DUST 514.

Amusingly, it's also one of the more profitable ways to play.

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Padmar Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2013.06.08 02:24:00 - [1] - Quote How about an accelerated SP schedule for those of us who are over 60? We don't have 40-70 years left before we can finally kill someone. I'm exaggerating somewhat. Been playing for 2 months, have about. 3 Mil Lifetime SP, 300K unallocated, and 65.5 Mil ISK. I have like 22 kills and 800 deaths (.02 KR). I'm trying to get ISK RICH by using a Gallente light frame with GEK-38, Militia SMG, Focs grenades, and Militia Nanoinjector. SPs are hard to come by! I get like 1,500-2,500 per battle. I try to stay covered and kill or revive when I can, but I still get killed by mercs I don't even see! Any suggestions?
SENATOR KODOS Intara Direct Action Caldari State 111	Posted - 2013.06.08 02:26:00 - [2] - Quote Padmar wrote: How about an accelerated SP schedule for those of us who are over 60? We don't have 40-70 years left before we can finally kill someone. I'm exaggerating somewhat. Been playing for 2 months, have about. 3 Mil Lifetime SP, 300K unallocated, and 65.5 Mil ISK. I have like 22 kills and 800 deaths (.02 KR). I'm trying to get ISK RICH by using a Gallente light frame with GEK-38, Militia SMG, Focs grenades, and Militia Nanoinjector. SPs are hard to come by! I get like 1,500-2,500 per battle. I try to stay covered and kill or revive when I can, but I still get killed by mercs I don't even see! Any suggestions? Yes Join a game and hide in the MCC while you watch tv. I get around 4500 SP depending on whether my team loses or not. Repeat.
Val'herik Dorn SyNergy Gaming EoN. 609	Posted - 2013.06.08 02:28:00 - [3] - Quote Before the get guds start I would suggest domination or skirmish because longer games more sp. Also it is a slow progression if you have the money boosters help but aren't required. Baically stick with it and you will get better. But remember the higher weapons are like 5% per tier better so its not omg required but a nice bonus.
Rynoceros One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 108	Posted - 2013.06.08 02:30:00 - [4] - Quote Kill. More.
Knightshade Belladonna WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS 325	Posted - 2013.06.08 02:32:00 - [5] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: Padmar wrote: How about an accelerated SP schedule for those of us who are over 60? We don't have 40-70 years left before we can finally kill someone. I'm exaggerating somewhat. Been playing for 2 months, have about. 3 Mil Lifetime SP, 300K unallocated, and 65.5 Mil ISK. I have like 22 kills and 800 deaths (.02 KR). I'm trying to get ISK RICH by using a Gallente light frame with GEK-38, Militia SMG, Focs grenades, and Militia Nanoinjector. SPs are hard to come by! I get like 1,500-2,500 per battle. I try to stay covered and kill or revive when I can, but I still get killed by mercs I don't even see! Any suggestions? Yes Join a game and hide in the MCC while you watch tv. I get around 4500 SP depending on whether my team loses or not. Repeat. sad thing is this is 100% true.. For some fkd reason ccp rewards people who risk nothing and do nothing more than those who risk and lose, lose , lose. it's fkn sick and pathetic imo that they shrug it off and find it an acceptable type of game play.
Aisha Ctarl The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 219	Posted - 2013.06.08 02:38:00 - [6] - Quote Boosters and destroy stuff.
Daylon Daxx Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2013.06.08 03:47:00 - [7] - Quote Get boosters. Become a sniper. Play Skirmish. Hide in hills. Kill enemy snipers. Shoot red dots you can get a clean shot on. Change locations. Repeat. Or... Jump in your free LAV and run everyone over.
Padmar Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2013.06.08 03:51:00 - [8] - Quote I've tried the sniper thing. I like the run em over idea.
greyarea67 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2013.06.08 04:09:00 - [9] - Quote Padmar wrote: I've tried the sniper thing. I like the run em over idea. Oh lord. I can already see the "that sux, it's unskilled" posts coming. Personally, I don't use the murder taxis for running people over...primarily :) If you get in the way while I am driving to my destination, I am going to run you over. But if I miss, I do not turn around and try to hit you again. I continue on my way. I have much more fun spawning in with a Swarm Launcher and AV grenades and using the murder taxis for target practice....and much fun was had by all. The "Rookie Training Grounds" is full of useful information: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=899 I have learned a lot from reading the posts in that section.
Padmar Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 1	Posted - 2013.06.08 15:42:00 - [10] - Quote Thx

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3527	Posted - 2013.06.08 15:44:00 - [11] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: Padmar wrote: How about an accelerated SP schedule for those of us who are over 60? We don't have 40-70 years left before we can finally kill someone. I'm exaggerating somewhat. Been playing for 2 months, have about. 3 Mil Lifetime SP, 300K unallocated, and 65.5 Mil ISK. I have like 22 kills and 800 deaths (.02 KR). I'm trying to get ISK RICH by using a Gallente light frame with GEK-38, Militia SMG, Focs grenades, and Militia Nanoinjector. SPs are hard to come by! I get like 1,500-2,500 per battle. I try to stay covered and kill or revive when I can, but I still get killed by mercs I don't even see! Any suggestions? Yes Join a game and hide in the MCC while you watch tv. I get around 4500 SP depending on whether my team loses or not. Repeat. CCP endorses this behavior, and CPM has no intention on pushing for punishments of it. The best way to play DUST 514 is to not play DUST 514. Amusingly, it's also one of the more profitable ways to play.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 527	Posted - 2013.06.08 15:51:00 - [12] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: Padmar wrote: How about an accelerated SP schedule for those of us who are over 60? We don't have 40-70 years left before we can finally kill someone. I'm exaggerating somewhat. Been playing for 2 months, have about. 3 Mil Lifetime SP, 300K unallocated, and 65.5 Mil ISK. I have like 22 kills and 800 deaths (.02 KR). I'm trying to get ISK RICH by using a Gallente light frame with GEK-38, Militia SMG, Focs grenades, and Militia Nanoinjector. SPs are hard to come by! I get like 1,500-2,500 per battle. I try to stay covered and kill or revive when I can, but I still get killed by mercs I don't even see! Any suggestions? Yes Join a game and hide in the MCC while you watch tv. I get around 4500 SP depending on whether my team loses or not. Repeat. CCP endorses this behavior, and CPM has no intention on pushing for punishments of it. The best way to play DUST 514 is to not play DUST 514. Amusingly, it's also one of the more profitable ways to play. I'm not so certain that this is not going to be countered by CCP eventually... I have not seen any endorsement of it anywhere. However, seriously, you have to ask yourself why you are here. Are you here only to maximize ISK/SP or are you here to enjoy the journey/game? If you are having fun the accumulation of ISK/SP is just a bonus. If you are working to get those things and not having fun -- wtf are you doing here at all? Find something that works and that doesn't break the bank. It sounds like you need to avoid CQC and watch out for enemy snipers. If you don't like sniping you might want to look at using swarm launchers to take out vehicles. You could also run a heavy or something if you aren't in the middle of CQC territory.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3529	Posted - 2013.06.08 15:56:00 - [13] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: I'm not so certain that this is not going to be countered by CCP eventually... I have not seen any endorsement of it anywhere. CCPs near complete silence on the matter is far more than enough endorsement as far as I'm concerned. CCP just wants to milk players for AUR, and there are a good chunk of repeat AUR buyers who AFK because they're only concerned with having the highest SP count they can get. Hence, CCP will not fix this anytime soon. Eventually yes, but we were told we'd be getting our new rollover SP system, and surprise surprise, more lip service. I'm not sure where the rest of your post was aimed.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 323	Posted - 2013.06.08 16:11:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Crash Monster wrote: I'm not so certain that this is not going to be countered by CCP eventually... I have not seen any endorsement of it anywhere. CCPs near complete silence on the matter is far more than enough endorsement as far as I'm concerned. CCP just wants to milk players for AUR, and there are a good chunk of repeat AUR buyers who AFK because they're only concerned with having the highest SP count they can get. Hence, CCP will not fix this anytime soon. Eventually yes, but we were told we'd be getting our new rollover SP system, and surprise surprise, more lip service. I'm not sure where the rest of your post was aimed. Can I AFK mine in eve with no chance of being damaged? PLEASE CCP YOU LET THE DUST SCRUBS DO IT!!!!! If you're not going to allow us to do something about AFKers here then why not give Exhumers, Industrials and Mining Barges an AFK button so they can do whatever they want while AFKing. Got a 80 jump trip to get that item? No worries, just hop in your Mammoth, push the AFK button and AFK AP to your destination. Since you're AFK no one can touch you. AFKers are rewarded in Dust, but in Eve they are ridiculed and aggressively punished (by both the playerbase and CCP). Nice double standard. Why CCP lets it exist? IDK, maybe they realize how broken ** is and they don't want real feedback about weapons and whatnot which is why we are in the situation we are in. The playerbase just AFKs and what info is gleaned from that? None aside from the fact that you get rewarded more for NOT playing the game than you do for playing the game. The more like this goes on, the more it makes me think that CCP isn't a real business, just a high school clique with a business license. Get in with the in crowd and you can get away with whatever you want. Try to have some integrity, maybe actually play the game and get presented with a meatgrinder to stick your ** in. /Aneurysm
reydient TYRANNY of EVIL MEN 1	Posted - 2013.06.08 16:15:00 - [15] - Quote Play skirmish and domination, if you sit in the MCC and go AFK , your going to do well in regards to SP. if you go and blow stuff up, you will do better. Also the GEK is a great weapon but its only a 5% difference from the milita i.e its not the gun its the user.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2621	Posted - 2013.06.08 16:17:00 - [16] - Quote Drop an uplink in one squad, move to another and drop an uplink again, move to the no-squad group and plant an uplink, then plant a few nanohives on key spots, hack objectives, repair players, and kill mercs. Done.
Rian CuThalion D3LTA ACADEMY 0	Posted - 2013.06.08 16:27:00 - [17] - Quote I've made 3mil so and I've been playing 1 month. If you're not the best shot try healing out. I play a logi ,stick with my squad, heal, hack, and rez. 9 times out of 10 I'm in the top 4 and my k/d is only 1.12. So kills aren't everything.
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 217	Posted - 2013.06.08 16:28:00 - [18] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: Padmar wrote: How about an accelerated SP schedule for those of us who are over 60? We don't have 40-70 years left before we can finally kill someone. I'm exaggerating somewhat. Been playing for 2 months, have about. 3 Mil Lifetime SP, 300K unallocated, and 65.5 Mil ISK. I have like 22 kills and 800 deaths (.02 KR). I'm trying to get ISK RICH by using a Gallente light frame with GEK-38, Militia SMG, Focs grenades, and Militia Nanoinjector. SPs are hard to come by! I get like 1,500-2,500 per battle. I try to stay covered and kill or revive when I can, but I still get killed by mercs I don't even see! Any suggestions? Yes Join a game and hide in the MCC while you watch tv. I get around 4500 SP depending on whether my team loses or not. Repeat. 4500 SP? No you don't. You get around 1500 if you win/lose and do nothing almost all the time. You only get above 3000 SP if you actually do something.
Padmar Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 1	Posted - 2013.06.08 18:27:00 - [19] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: Padmar wrote: How about an accelerated SP schedule for those of us who are over 60? We don't have 40-70 years left before we can finally kill someone. I'm exaggerating somewhat. Been playing for 2 months, have about. 3 Mil Lifetime SP, 300K unallocated, and 65.5 Mil ISK. I have like 22 kills and 800 deaths (.02 KR). I'm trying to get ISK RICH by using a Gallente light frame with GEK-38, Militia SMG, Focs grenades, and Militia Nanoinjector. SPs are hard to come by! I get like 1,500-2,500 per battle. I try to stay covered and kill or revive when I can, but I still get killed by mercs I don't even see! Any suggestions? Yes Join a game and hide in the MCC while you watch tv. I get around 4500 SP depending on whether my team loses or not. Repeat. CCP endorses this behavior, and CPM has no intention on pushing for punishments of it. The best way to play DUST 514 is to not play DUST 514. Amusingly, it's also one of the more profitable ways to play. I really hope thi isn't true. I enjoy playing the game and am trying to be smart about training skills and spending SP. I'm trying very hard. It would be more fun if skills progressed a little faster.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Unclaimed. 63	Posted - 2013.06.08 18:58:00 - [20] - Quote Find some guys of about your skill level if not a bit better and squad up with them.

A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 144	Posted - 2013.06.08 19:39:00 - [21] - Quote If you have RL money then get the BPO's as you will have something a bit better than the starter or basic militia fits and it not cost much in Isk to fit. The only reason my cheap fit costs Isk is because I will not buy the militia locus grenade BPO as the only cost 180 Isk per fitting. Invest in your core skills i.e. shield, Armor and CPU and PG. Keep in constant motion if you can. If your gun game is limited then go Logi and support your team via uplinks, Rez, rep and resupply. You can earn serious WP this way putting you high in the leader boards which earns you more Isk and SP. Stay behind your own lines, if your team is holding one, or stay with the largest group of blue dots. Join a squad and if they are ones you feel comfortable with then stick with them to the squad disbands.
Padmar Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 1	Posted - 2013.06.11 05:01:00 - [22] - Quote Thanks for the advice. I've been trying not to use RL money but think I should pick up some BPOs. I'm having better results doing support also. It's a slow process but I'm still having fun.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 318	Posted - 2013.06.11 05:31:00 - [23] - Quote I introduced a friend to this game, fresh out of the academy and he is breaking even with his KDR (Gallente Logi bro in the making), might I ask what in the blazes you spent your SP on? It might be an issue with your fit or more likely your tactics if you have so few kills and so many deaths. Try not to be a one-man-army, stick with others in wolf packs, life is much better that way, and don't forget to take a breather for your defenses to recharge and always avoid "killzones" which are areas in the map where the enemy have a lot of cover and you don't have any. Just a bit puzzled, but best of wishes on your game! As long as you are having fun, that is all that matters.


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