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mrunknown2u2
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:22:00 -
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Is not working tested it and no the racial bonus is broken. |
mrunknown2u2
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:49:00 -
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Noone?
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:52:00 -
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Its working but its only shaving off fractions of a second Maybe its just since Im used to fighting games but those fraction of a second motions stand out |
Sontie
Ill Omens EoN.
633
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Posted - 2013.06.08 01:03:00 -
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belongs in the feedback or maybe bugs section |
mrunknown2u2
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 01:11:00 -
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Sontie wrote:belongs in the feedback or maybe bugs section I do what I want
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.06.08 01:18:00 -
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Would someone with video capture and a ms/frame time stamp able to verify this? |
mrunknown2u2
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 01:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Would someone with video capture and a ms/frame time stamp able to verify this? I don't I wish I have test on multiple weapons no best is at all
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.06.08 01:40:00 -
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mrunknown2u2 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Would someone with video capture and a ms/frame time stamp able to verify this? I don't I wish I have test on multiple weapons no best is at all
Well here's hoping to a guy who has specced into the suit does. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
69
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Posted - 2013.06.08 01:42:00 -
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Assuming you're using the Assault Rifle, it has a reload speed of 3.5 seconds. Caldari Assault bonus is 2% reload speed per level. 2% of 3.5 seconds is 0.07 seconds. If you get it to level 5 and have 10%, it saves you only 0.35 seconds (about a third of a second). If you combine it with the rapid reload skill which goes up to 15%, it's 3.5 * 0.90 * 0.85 = 2.67, nearly a full second off.
It's kind of stupid that it's hard to notice anything until you max everything out all the way, but that's how it is. |
The Black Art
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.06.08 01:51:00 -
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I can probably record and test this out tonight. Though, if it does work correctly, you realize the reload speed would only be decreased by .3 seconds? Probably wouldn't notice it at all unless you maxed the other reload speed skill. |
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.06.08 01:56:00 -
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just pointing out that a bonus where you need video capture footage and time stamps to find proof of it's functionality REALLY doesn't compare to bonuses like the caldari logis massive hp boost, or knives damage bonus..
just saying.... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.06.08 01:56:00 -
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The Black Art wrote:I can probably record and test this out tonight. Though, if it does work correctly, you realize the reload speed would only be decreased by .3 seconds? Probably wouldn't notice it at all unless you maxed the other reload speed skill.
This is why a video editing software with millisecond time stamping would be useful but over all..
I have to agree the bonus sucks. |
Val'herik Dorn
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
609
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Posted - 2013.06.08 02:04:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:just pointing out that a bonus where you need video capture footage and time stamps to find proof of it's functionality REALLY doesn't compare to bonuses like the caldari logis massive hp boost, or knives damage bonus..
just saying....
But it does holding all other things constant that fraction of a second difference in reload is the difference between winning a close fire fight and losing.
Haveing been through the wipes you notice it when its gone.
How many times do you reload in a match 30 40 times more?
In the larger scheme that fraction of a second is more than it seems.
Dust and eve are full of tiny bonuses that do more than they seem to in the long run. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.06.08 02:10:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:calisk galern wrote:just pointing out that a bonus where you need video capture footage and time stamps to find proof of it's functionality REALLY doesn't compare to bonuses like the caldari logis massive hp boost, or knives damage bonus..
just saying.... But it does holding all other things constant that fraction of a second difference in reload is the difference between winning a close fire fight and losing. Haveing been through the wipes you notice it when its gone. How many times do you reload in a match 30 40 times more? In the larger scheme that fraction of a second is more than it seems. Dust and eve are full of tiny bonuses that do more than they seem to in the long run.
I had the full reload spec last set, for the 25% reload, I mean I noticed a minor change and I do get the situational importance of the reload speed, but that still doesn't compare to bonuses that give you an extra 100 shields, or adds extra damage.
those bonuses will be useful every single moment you are on the field, every bullet that hits you every shot you take or make.
I took the caldari suit, because it was the only suit that met the criteria I needed the bonus imo is a wash anyway, but it isn't the only one, it's not exclusive to the caldari suit.
to give you a straight example if it turns out it hasn't been working this entire time I really honestly couldn't tell the difference, the ironic part is the forge gun and hmg could of made great use of this bonus, but of course it isn't available to those weapons. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.06.08 06:32:00 -
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Keep in mind we're referencing the assault rifle with this. Imagine how it affects longer reload hybrid weapons like say the Plasma Cannon. |
mrunknown2u2
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:10:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Keep in mind we're referencing the assault rifle with this. Imagine how it affects longer reload hybrid weapons like say the Plasma Cannon. I tried the plasma cannon I noticed no change.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
531
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:17:00 -
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Anyone playing Caldari assault uses the logi. That's why it hasn't been noticed/tested. |
Vaux Karn
The Mercenary Collective
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:51:00 -
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In the last build a 10% reduction to the assault rifle was noticeable (to me at least), this nuild I chose not to invest in it yet because of the caldari assault bonus...don't see any change in my reload. It may be broken, but unfortunately I cannot confirm that it is or isn't. As IWS said...we need someone to time stamp it. |
Shrapnels
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
107
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:53:00 -
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I got level 1 of the 3% reload bonus and I swear my AR reloads got slower |
mrunknown2u2
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:56:00 -
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Shrapnels wrote:I got level 1 of the 3% reload bonus and I swear my AR reloads got slower i really think ccp should look into this. |
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
347
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Posted - 2013.06.08 17:07:00 -
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The rapid reload skill in general is one of those skills that costs too much SP for a minimal/marginal gain.
I honestly don't really notice any improvement until I hit level 3. |
DildoMcnutz
The Tickle Monsters
0
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Posted - 2013.06.08 17:49:00 -
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i absolutely feel the difference when going from the basic frames to the assault frames but i totally agree that its the worst bonus of all the assault suits. 10% faster hybrid reload? when the other suits get 25% less laser weapon heat build up, 25% cpu/pg reduction on hybrid weapons (for a total of 50% if the weapons fitting skill is maxed) or 25% sidearm clip capacity the caldari assault bonus seems pretty weak by comparison. |
EVEry DUSTOID
United Planetary Soldiers
109
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Posted - 2013.06.08 17:51:00 -
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mrunknown2u2 wrote:Is not working tested it and no the racial bonus is broken.
10% of 3 seconds is pretty much nothing... |
Richard Sebire
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 18:48:00 -
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Considering most of the racial variants aren't out yet, I'm not surprised it doesn't work, and if it does the millisecond off reload for a level 5 skill (several hundred thousand SP) isn't really worth employing. I can see Dust 514 won't be complete for quite awhile yet. And when it is a full level 5 suit with everything maxed is still pretty rudimentary. And on the topic of this spending real money to just get a coloured version of a suit is stupid. Look at me I'm special in my yellow suit and my yellow LAV, that cost real money.
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Bob Teller
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.18 21:21:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Val'herik Dorn wrote:calisk galern wrote:just pointing out that a bonus where you need video capture footage and time stamps to find proof of it's functionality REALLY doesn't compare to bonuses like the caldari logis massive hp boost, or knives damage bonus..
just saying.... But it does holding all other things constant that fraction of a second difference in reload is the difference between winning a close fire fight and losing. Haveing been through the wipes you notice it when its gone. How many times do you reload in a match 30 40 times more? In the larger scheme that fraction of a second is more than it seems. Dust and eve are full of tiny bonuses that do more than they seem to in the long run. I had the full reload spec last set, for the 25% reload, I mean I noticed a minor change and I do get the situational importance of the reload speed, but that still doesn't compare to bonuses that give you an extra 100 shields, or adds extra damage. those bonuses will be useful every single moment you are on the field, every bullet that hits you every shot you take or make. I took the caldari suit, because it was the only suit that met the criteria I needed the bonus imo is a wash anyway, but it isn't the only one, it's not exclusive to the caldari suit. to give you a straight example if it turns out it hasn't been working this entire time I really honestly couldn't tell the difference, the ironic part is the forge gun and hmg could of made great use of this bonus, but of course it isn't available to those weapons. I have 22% reload speed bonus on my caldari assault and i love it.Now they're gonna give us a crappy shield bonus instead,thanks for al the crying guys,,,see what happen |
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