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Knightshade Belladonna
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Posted - 2013.06.07 16:58:00 -
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ok , seriously now. We go out and fight for the wins, and the gg while alot of people are taking advantage of a system that currently rewards you almost if not better to just do absolutely nothing. Currently you can earn an easy 4k+ sp per match with no booster standing in the mcc along with 100k+ isk, while some of us lose thousands , or hundreds of thousands of isk to gain the same or slightly better results. This is seriously broken, the afk people come up with all sorts of dumb reasons of why they do it, making themselves believe it is perfectly acceptable gameplay, in a fkn shooter. Until ccp kills passive gain in match, or can come up with a better solution, I am suggesting we that try and play this game losing **** while these guys who don't reap the rewards should start playing by thier rules as well. Starting right now, I will be logging into dust and rallying at the mcc.. I will be on team chat every game, conveying the importance of this act and why I am doing it, and try to get as many to join the cause.
Tell me to HTFU , say QQ moar, call me a scrub, like my post, hate my post.. I don't give a ****, but it's time to stand up to this.. even the cpm find it perfectly acceptable and some partake in it themselves.. some with the feeling that they are to good to pub match, so they afk between PC matches.. fk that logic, let's do this! |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 17:04:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:be sure to join the AFK channel so you can coordinate with the other ppl AFKing against the AFKers
if there is such a channel, good to know. thanks. I will probably hear a ton of **** from people in coms, but i'm fully prepared to take this on. |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 17:05:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:The best way to AFK is in a viper with an afterburner, doing stunts, flying into buildings, or taking out 1.5 million ISK dropships by hugging them.
your viper tactics are supreme, keep up the good work merc! |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 17:31:00 -
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a few have already joined the cause, may it serve it's purpose well!
as a side note, it is also a good place to practice your aiming. me and 2 guys just ran around the mcc trying to use cover and strafing while improving our aim. getting 2 things done at once! lol |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 17:55:00 -
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I have only just started, you will begin to see many many mercs piling up in the mcc soon ccp. and trust me, you won't like it one bit. you know why?
1. Huge influx of isk 2. nowhere to sink the isk 3. aur sales sharply decline 4. hyperinflation will take place if you ever decide to give a player driven market 5. Games will become stagnant , causing those who are unaware of the issue at hand to say wow this game fkn blows i'm out
k, thx
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Posted - 2013.06.07 19:05:00 -
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awareness is key, and they are becoming aware |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 19:48:00 -
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Azura Sakura wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:a few have already joined the cause, may it serve it's purpose well!
as a side note, it is also a good place to practice your aiming. me and 2 guys just ran around the mcc trying to use cover and strafing while improving our aim. getting 2 things done at once! lol Sigh... That's not afking, that's more like being an *******.
no, it's more like combatting a problem the best way I can come up with. |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 19:54:00 -
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Paladin Sas wrote:All you AFKers keep getting your pathetic 4k SP per match, ill continue to enjoy the 13k SP rewards i get from actually doing something. Besides Hatemail is so much sweeter when you earn it.
4k turned out to be a low estimate, pretty much a base. In one of the rounds of doing nothing me and squad mate got 9100 sp each with booster. This is a problem for sure, not over reacting or making dumb statements, this is a serious issue that needs addressed.. ccp does not want to listen, so maybe they can feel it instead. |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 21:10:00 -
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I was there! |
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:31:00 -
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Yeva Kalsani wrote:Hey, I heard of this other game mode. I think it's called Ambush.
Yes , that does work. But ask yourself, does that really fix the problem? No, it does not. There needs to be something done about this, it can no longer be looked at as acceptable.. and is rather disgusting really that ccp and their hand picked cpm view it this way also, it completely disregards the work and effort that others put in each week. I earned 9,200 sp earlier losing nothing, doing nothing, risking nothing.. I have gone 16/2 and not even got that. Whenever I do achieve that it is when I manage to get over 2k wp with my logistics, which required lots of maneuvering on the battlefield. Something is not right, and really needs to be done. |
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Posted - 2013.06.08 02:05:00 -
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I hit my cap, however I will still be sitting in the mcc , and trying to rally as many others as I can to do the same. I wish I could get access to more local channels, I think I will create 2 new characters and races and try relaying this info to them locals from there, as not everyone reads the forums or knows this scenario is possible. |
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Posted - 2013.06.08 11:06:00 -
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Thanos Warpfiend wrote:oh look it's him again, about this again... We all admire your incredible skills at drawing conclusions. We can tell from your complete lack of real research that you're a pretty amazing armchair expert. Before you continue your bullzhitting read: Ho and Wu (2012). Factors affecting intent to purchase virtual goods in online games. International Journal of Electronic Business Management, Vol. 10, No. 3, pp. 204-212 Dickey (2006). Game design and learning: a conjectural analysis of how massively multiple online role-playing games (MMORPGs) foster intrinsic motivation. Education Tech Research Dev (2007) 55:253GÇô273 Chang, Zhu and Wang (2011). The influence of service quality on gamer loyalty in massively multiplayer online role-play games. Social Behavior and Personality, 2011, 39(10), 1297-1302 Lee and Tsai (2010) What Drives People to Continue to Play Online Games? An Extension of Technology Model and Theory of Planned Behavior. International Journal of human-computer interaction, 26(6), 601GÇô620, 2010 if at that time you won't know why this: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: 1. Huge influx of isk 2. nowhere to sink the isk 3. aur sales sharply decline 4. hyperinflation will take place if you ever decide to give a player driven market 5. Games will become stagnant , causing those who are unaware of the issue at hand to say wow this game fkn blows i'm out
k, thx
KB
...is is a load of poorly deducted nonsense with no links to reality. Then research, deduction and analytics is not for you. k, thx TW
Nice little research you did there, but guess what.. it completely ignores the problem as well and you are just trying to shut it down.. guess what, it did not work.. still at it, and won't quit! thanks for the encouragement
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Posted - 2013.06.08 11:27:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I hit my cap, however I will still be sitting in the mcc , and trying to rally as many others as I can to do the same. I wish I could get access to more local channels, I think I will create 2 new characters and races and try relaying this info to them locals from there, as not everyone reads the forums or knows this scenario is possible. This isn't a new phenomenon. Plenty of others have already been whining about it. However, go ahead and make a fool/troll out of yourself if you wish. I bet you let the air out of bicycle tires (or worse) so people will eventually be able to have better storage facilities for their bikes.
I know others have whined about it, but how many actively pursue a fix. How many are out there letting AS MANY as they can in the game about the problem, I already turned a few into perma mcc campers and will continue this endeavor for as long as it takes. Like I said earlier, no matter what you guys say to me.. it won't change my thoughts, and my processes. Making a fool of myself for trying to improve a gaming community, sure if that's how some of you view it. Troll? not in the slightest, if anyone is attempting to troll it is you and others like you with your comments expecting it will shut us/me down. But guess what, I don't sway that easy. |
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Posted - 2013.06.08 11:28:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I have only just started, you will begin to see many many mercs piling up in the mcc soon ccp. and trust me, you won't like it one bit. you know why?
1. Huge influx of isk 2. nowhere to sink the isk 3. aur sales sharply decline 4. hyperinflation will take place if you ever decide to give a player driven market 5. Games will become stagnant , causing those who are unaware of the issue at hand to say wow this game fkn blows i'm out
k, thx
KB So your goal is to kill the game. No thanks douche bag.
NO, my goal is NOT to kill the game. This is a scenario that can play out IF they do not ever fix the problem as more and more will do it and completely ignore the work others do put in. |
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Posted - 2013.06.08 11:43:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:NO, my goal is NOT to kill the game. This is a scenario that can play out IF they do not ever fix the problem as more and more will do it and completely ignore the work others do put in. Seriously, slash bicycle tires everywhere so that people can eventually get better storage facilities... or maybe they'll just quit riding bikes. Your strategy is destructive and flawed. You are either an idiot or a troll. You certainly aren't bringing any joy to Mudville with your ridiculous justification.
Destructive , can be. Flawed, maybe there is some holes. Ineffective, doubtful. If anyone is not getting any joy from knowing this problem is being campaigned, then clearly they are the original abusers of this games major "flaw" . I can not and will not sit around idle watching others play the game as intended, losing isk and cash they sink into the game while others benefit doing absolutely nothing getting the same results in the end. |
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Posted - 2013.06.08 11:46:00 -
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And not to mention the fact that several known, and possibly a lot more unknown people are using 2-3 systems at one time afk grinding for corp funding, self funding.. it is a major problem. |
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Posted - 2013.06.08 13:18:00 -
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Logging into Tranquility server now to continue spreading the message. This beast must be slayed! |
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Posted - 2013.06.08 20:47:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:I fixed this months ago and CCP just won't implement it.
1. Create a game mode called Ambush AFK. 2. Players can log in, and their account locks for the duration of an Ambush game. 3. At the end of that duration, the AFKers are given some average amount of ISK, SP, even a little Salvage. 4. AFKers are not in real games, eating up player slots and having to check in. 5. AFKers get paid, and won't want to bother with real matches.
I get $500,000 for fixing it.
That does not fix anything at all, it continues to support the behavior giving them free stuff for absolutely nothing and still allows them the advantage of multiple accounts afk grinding isk for corp funding. |
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Posted - 2013.06.08 20:49:00 -
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Thanos Warpfiend wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Thanos Warpfiend wrote:oh look it's him again, about this again... We all admire your incredible skills at drawing conclusions. We can tell from your complete lack of real research that you're a pretty amazing armchair expert. Before you continue your bullzhitting read: Ho and Wu (2012). Factors affecting intent to purchase virtual goods in online games. International Journal of Electronic Business Management, Vol. 10, No. 3, pp. 204-212 Dickey (2006). Game design and learning: a conjectural analysis of how massively multiple online role-playing games (MMORPGs) foster intrinsic motivation. Education Tech Research Dev (2007) 55:253GÇô273 Chang, Zhu and Wang (2011). The influence of service quality on gamer loyalty in massively multiplayer online role-play games. Social Behavior and Personality, 2011, 39(10), 1297-1302 Lee and Tsai (2010) What Drives People to Continue to Play Online Games? An Extension of Technology Model and Theory of Planned Behavior. International Journal of human-computer interaction, 26(6), 601GÇô620, 2010 if at that time you won't know why this: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: 1. Huge influx of isk 2. nowhere to sink the isk 3. aur sales sharply decline 4. hyperinflation will take place if you ever decide to give a player driven market 5. Games will become stagnant , causing those who are unaware of the issue at hand to say wow this game fkn blows i'm out
k, thx
KB
...is is a load of poorly deducted nonsense with no links to reality. Then research, deduction and analytics is not for you. k, thx TW Nice little research you did there, but guess what.. it completely ignores the problem as well and you are just trying to shut it down.. guess what, it did not work.. still at it, and won't quit! thanks for the encouragement It does ignore the problem but addresses the results of the problem. You listed why this will kill the game. You are wrong, this won't kill the game, I have the research to back me up. This will linger for some time while CCP fixes it. No real consequences. Take the time to educate yourself about user experiences of virtual worlds and digital content services processes and stop whining about stuff you know nothing about.
while doing all that reading and researching you apparrently forgot to read what exactly I said can cause those problems. By actively campaigning HARD, and getting the mast majority of people who spend cash on this game and lose **** on this game to know they can still get everything without doing anything.. it would eventually be detremental.. passively ignoring it over time , sure it won't effect anything.. but doing that won't fix anything either.. this problem has existed for a long time now and is becoming more and more abused as we get further into the live launch. |
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Posted - 2013.06.08 21:28:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I AFK farm on the MCC It shouldn't be something that is possible in the game, its unfair to those who actually play for their rewards, and it rewards those who knowingly hurt their team by being useless and taking up a slot that could be used by useful players. I used to advocate the removal of all SP gained from AFK farming, not to punish, but because its something that should have never been awarded to begin with. Now I don't advocate that anymore because of selfish gain, i'm about 700k SP from getting my AK0 logistics dropsuit, and I plan on getting prototype assault scrambler rifle as well.
I have a 30 day passive booster, and I want to make sure I hit the cap every week, even when I don't actually want to play.
Thanks for the comment. I'm glad to hear that someone using it actually does believe it should not exist. I don't blame people that do continue to do it, it's there, ccp says why not currently, cpm shrug.. I blame ccp for allowing this in the first place, which is why I would like everyone to know they can achieve this also, and maybe just maybe ccp will do something. Can never give up on Hope! |
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Posted - 2013.06.09 03:46:00 -
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Getting more backers in game. I wish ccp would adress this issue. As I see it, this is far worse than the fixes they did by removing multiple wp rewards from game. And they did that pretty fast.Why can't they come up with a solution to this also.,or do they truly not give a kitten at all anymore? |
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Posted - 2013.06.09 18:04:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Paladin Sas wrote:All you AFKers keep getting your pathetic 4k SP per match, ill continue to enjoy the 13k SP rewards i get from actually doing something. Besides Hatemail is so much sweeter when you earn it. That's if you're good. I've seen people going 0-8, or 2-9, and they might as well stay in the MCC. Also SP gained is irrelevant because of the cap. You can easily hit cap in 2 days, earn just as much as you do, while doing something else that's better than grinding in this game.
yep, only the real good players actually benifit something from not going afk. the ones getting 1500+ sp per game consistantly with little to no loss. But a huge huge group of players are risking and losing alot to gain nothing in comparison to doing nothing at all. Like does it really make any sense that you wnet in and fought a battle, got 2 kills, 12 assists , 5 deaths earn something like 2k sp. and lose isk if your fits cost something, maybe even aur. And the dude who stayed in the mcc just got more than you. Apparently dying loses sp in some way, while never doing anything gains it. |
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Posted - 2013.06.10 14:27:00 -
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Remember folks, cap resets tomorrow. Get your best afk shoes on. |
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:49:00 -
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For those who thought this topic died and let out a sigh of relief.. sorry
It is wed. folks , so get your best afk boots on and grind grind grind that cap in the mcc while you do some laundry, your ol lady, your husband/partner? , watch some tv , watch the screen while eating doritos wondering why people are running on the ground.. whatever you would like to do. |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 15:03:00 -
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got half my cap last night and a nice sum of isk while catching up in a book I have been putting off. Have they started allowing mining bots as perfectly legit ways to make a living in Eve yet? |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 20:10:00 -
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Revelations 514 wrote:I would definitely like to see addressing of this issue. AFK'ers ruin pub matches for casuals.
Pub matches need a purpose for winning.
The red line should disappear or work both ways to prevent abuse.
The MCC should "nuke" anyone remaining in MCC after 2 mins.
Lets take the training wheels off. It undermines CCP's reputation to not coddle, and is primarily abused by veteran players rather than used by new players as a haven, and therefore has lost it's purpose anyways.
At least if player's are going to AFK, make them do it in a danger zone where they can be killed. Adjust rewards model so that players are actually rewarded for participation. Even if it's only in ISK or Salvage.
Thank you! |
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Posted - 2013.06.23 22:44:00 -
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Never surrender mercs! |
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