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itsmellslikefish
DIOS X. II
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:48:00 -
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It's cause of the scrub nerf-hearders that complaign bout everything that kills em. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
295
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:50:00 -
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TrusouLjah wrote:The guns don't even feel right, the game is very un enjoyable every nerf you do. so by the time I get used to a weapon or gun, put all my sp into the prof. you nerf it and make every AR SUCK. You might as well spec into heavy's and sniper rifles because the assault class is a joke now. NOTE TO CCP, stop nerfing otherwise your just gonna nerf your player base because this game has nothing to offer like most fps and nothing about this game is enjoyable. you just need to learn 2 play with balanced weapons.
oh and btw, AR is still the best weapon around. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1203
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Posted - 2013.06.07 09:06:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We've been monitoring the TAR since the change. So far it is still one of the most used weapons with one of the highest kill counts. However it's no longer in a class of its own which is a good thing. We will keep an eye on it to see how things develop.
Thanks for the continued feedback!
CCP Wolfman
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Wakko03
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:44:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:LinkCCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We've been monitoring the TAR since the change. So far it is still one of the most used weapons with one of the highest kill counts. However it's no longer in a class of its own which is a good thing. We will keep an eye on it to see how things develop.
Thanks for the continued feedback!
CCP Wolfman
I'll take this with a grain of salt.... why because of the problems with the skill tree, CCP's left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing.
Do I need to go all the way back to the MAG patch where they said the AR's were fine, only for them to after much complaining- Zipper came out and said actually yeah our nerf had some unintended consequences for the weapons not actually nerfed but in the same class.
I tell you what, after work I'll record some matches and put them up to youtube, of course that means I will have to re-install dust again and subject myself to another session of nonsense. |
martinofski
Les Rebelles A Qc
173
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:46:00 -
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Butthurt kid |
CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:50:00 -
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Wakko03 wrote:I am not a TAC user, and after the last 2 days I will say that something is up.
Is it my internets fault... from all the tests I can run, it doesn't seem likely.... so since the only thing that has changed in the last couple of days is the first synchro that added the Thukkers back in, then the TAC ar nerf.... something is way off from even Monday when I was able to kill enough to satisfy my needs.
FAR be it for me to call out CCP, but when I see junk like I would see tonight it is either they turned off the server selector or for some reason I am playing against overseas players with a somehow corrupted game file, yet it still works.
I'm talking about bunk that just makes you quit playing the game after 3 matches. It is either they adjusted something to do with all AR's to nerf the tac or this game just went back to september 2012 for me I can't lead them enough to score a hit nor can I shoot where they are or where they might be. We are talking all 60 bullets at less than 15m.
Wakko I don't know what's going on. I had to quit DUST for a while. It was good playing with BHD and especially with you like old MAG times but the game just died. I got all blue hit markers on a whole clip of the TAC and in other instances I would get 0 hit markers, it was like the game was laughing at me.
I complain about generally bad hit detection but as you say, something happened. I don't know what it is either but I'm not playing this game for a while.
The bad thing is that MAG isn't really that enjoyable to go back to. Attacking Darien against all Japs with shotguns? No thanks. When will we ever find an FPS game which doesn't put you at a severe disadvantage, have extreme lag and poor hit detection?
Should have bought BF3. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:52:00 -
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Maybe learn to play OP? Sounds to me like you can only do something with overpowered gear. If you think that AR suck now, then why don't you put your SP in heavy assault or sniper now? Nobody forces you to use an AR. I for one don't have any problems with them. |
Reefersmokintaz
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:13:00 -
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People said the same thing about EVE... "It wont make it past a year".... Well EVE is now 10 years old.... |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:22:00 -
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Reefersmokintaz wrote:People said the same thing about EVE... "It wont make it past a year".... Well EVE is now 10 years old....
There are tremendous differences between the Eve Situation and the Dust situation. For starters, PC gamers are more patient and do not have to deal with a new console coming out that may or may not be backwards compatible. Secondly, Eve is more of a strategy MMO while Dust still is primarily a console FPS shoot people in the face mode. In other words, even though they take place in the same universe, they are still two completely different games played by folks who primarily favor one over the other. What works in Eve will not necessarily work in Dust and vice versa. Apples and oranges. Face it, dust has been an epic failure. |
EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:44:00 -
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its too soon to say dust has failed, if ccp gets their ish together they can make a great game but idk about lately
CCPs Seems to think that a Bi-Weekly Money grab Aurum pack or booster = content |
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tastzlike chicken
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:23:00 -
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Wakko03 wrote:I am not a TAC user, and after the last 2 days I will say that something is up.
Is it my internets fault... from all the tests I can run, it doesn't seem likely.... so since the only thing that has changed in the last couple of days is the first synchro that added the Thukkers back in, then the TAC ar nerf.... something is way off from even Monday when I was able to kill enough to satisfy my needs.
FAR be it for me to call out CCP, but when I see junk like I would see tonight it is either they turned off the server selector or for some reason I am playing against overseas players with a somehow corrupted game file, yet it still works.
I'm talking about bunk that just makes you quit playing the game after 3 matches. It is either they adjusted something to do with all AR's to nerf the tac or this game just went back to september 2012 for me I can't lead them enough to score a hit nor can I shoot where they are or where they might be. We are talking all 60 bullets at less than 15m.
I'm jealous that you have experienced this only over the last few days.
My entire Uprising experience has been what you described. I've been playing this game for over a year and, beginning with the day after Uprising, I can't seem to register hits worth a damn. "Get good?" yeah, maybe I abruptly went from average-competent to suddenly sucking -- strange it didn't happen with any of the other builds, though.
Lowering my resolution to 480 definitely improved this (Thank you, NF guy.) Reducing the image processing on my TV definitely improved this. Sadly, doing both simultaneously makes the game nearly unplayable for different reasons.
So, I can play a game with worse-than-chromosome graphics in order to get an almost-chromosome-like hit-detection. This game is hemorrhaging enjoyment.... |
Bling Blaine
Ringer For Hire
198
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Posted - 2013.06.07 18:01:00 -
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TrusouLjah wrote:Game sucks, takes no skill to use iron sights since they have little recoil, im not even going to go into detail how sad the range on any ar is. 4x ar's have 18 rounds, CQ blob blueberry trains get boring, to the point why even run around if everyone is shooting at the same target. Spawns are terrible, PC is so laggy. Match's are always one sided, and gridlocked FTW. As for competitive play, where's the competition? But like I said why wait on a crap beta , that might not even make it to the PS4. Not expecting much improvement from CCP On Dust! I'd rather look forward to ps4 then waste my time with CCP, on there broken Beta. Enjoy pub stomping, weak excuse for PC other then that games crap. Crap rolls down hill, expect CCP to roll the same way. Games never gets better only worse, in this generation. An with teams like CCP , speak for themselves, ban anyone who doesn't agree with the B.S. or get trolled when someone trys to make a point. I could care less what they do with this game anymore.
Wow you just said exactly what I was thinking.
Amen |
Bling Blaine
Ringer For Hire
198
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Posted - 2013.06.07 18:11:00 -
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Reefersmokintaz wrote:People said the same thing about EVE... "It wont make it past a year".... Well EVE is now 10 years old....
This game is not........
A PC game A spaceship game A niche game A mature player based game Passive mining game Exploration game Trading/manufacturing game
This is........
A FPS Console game Dying generation Immature/impatient player base
Their are too many differences between the two, they are not even comparible in any way besides CCP made it.
So if you are judging dust success based on eve success, then you sir have BLIND FAITH, and that is considered to be a 100% fanboi way of thinking, and is a guaranteed set up for failure.
So who cares how good eve is we are talking about dust.
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Xender17
Intrepidus XI
155
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Posted - 2013.06.07 18:21:00 -
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Now they are buffing AV. Adding AV weaponry too! Seriously -_- ANTI-VEHICLE grenade is call ant-vehicle because it's supposed to be its own mini role in itself. Not AV then all these other AV grenades. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1220
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Posted - 2013.06.07 18:25:00 -
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Bling Blaine wrote:Reefersmokintaz wrote:People said the same thing about EVE... "It wont make it past a year".... Well EVE is now 10 years old.... This game is not........ A PC game A spaceship game A niche game A mature player based game Passive mining game Exploration game Trading/manufacturing game This is........ A FPS Console game Dying generation Immature/impatient player base Their are too many differences between the two, they are not even comparible in any way besides CCP made it. So if you are judging dust success based on eve success, then you sir have BLIND FAITH, and that is considered to be a 100% fanboi way of thinking, and is a guaranteed set up for failure. So who cares how good eve is we are talking about dust. It doesn't matter if Dust 514 was a damn dating sim. If you pay attention to the core gameplay, everything else falls into place. Want all these excessive nerfs and buffs (excluding the TAR) to stop? We need matchmaking. And that's just one issue that wold solve a plethora of problems if it gets addressed. |
AmarrTemplar 196
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.06.07 18:34:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Bling Blaine wrote:Reefersmokintaz wrote:People said the same thing about EVE... "It wont make it past a year".... Well EVE is now 10 years old.... This game is not........ A PC game A spaceship game A niche game A mature player based game Passive mining game Exploration game Trading/manufacturing game This is........ A FPS Console game Dying generation Immature/impatient player base Their are too many differences between the two, they are not even comparible in any way besides CCP made it. So if you are judging dust success based on eve success, then you sir have BLIND FAITH, and that is considered to be a 100% fanboi way of thinking, and is a guaranteed set up for failure. So who cares how good eve is we are talking about dust. It doesn't matter if Dust 514 was a damn dating sim. If you pay attention to the core gameplay, everything else falls into place. Want all these excessive nerfs and buffs (excluding the TAR) to stop? We need matchmaking. And that's just one issue that wold solve a plethora of problems if it gets addressed.
You are a fanboi and it stinks really bad.
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1220
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Posted - 2013.06.07 18:38:00 -
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AmarrTemplar 196 wrote:You are a fanboi and it stinks really bad. Criticizing core gameplay issues that are going to kill Dust 514 in the long run makes me a fanboi? Troll harder, I don't think enough people have crossed your bridge yet. |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
87
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Posted - 2013.06.07 18:48:00 -
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TrusouLjah wrote:The guns don't even feel right, the game is very un enjoyable every nerf you do. so by the time I get used to a weapon or gun, put all my sp into the prof. you nerf it and make every AR SUCK. You might as well spec into heavy's and sniper rifles because the assault class is a joke now. NOTE TO CCP, stop nerfing otherwise your just gonna nerf your player base because this game has nothing to offer like most fps and nothing about this game is enjoyable. Awe somebody is mad they lost there OP weapon . "AR being useless" since the f@ck when? they have always been dominate and always will be, doesn't matter what racial AR you use it will dominate. Iam guessing you've been using the TAC AR since the launch of Uprising, so you haven't got use to the range with the other assault rifles variants (it took me awhile to do the same with my SMG's) |
EVEry DUSTOID
United Planetary Soldiers
106
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Posted - 2013.06.07 18:56:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:TrusouLjah wrote:The guns don't even feel right, the game is very un enjoyable every nerf you do. so by the time I get used to a weapon or gun, put all my sp into the prof. you nerf it and make every AR SUCK. You might as well spec into heavy's and sniper rifles because the assault class is a joke now. NOTE TO CCP, stop nerfing otherwise your just gonna nerf your player base because this game has nothing to offer like most fps and nothing about this game is enjoyable. Awe somebody is mad they lost there OP weapon . "AR being useless" since the f@ck when? they have always been dominate and always will be, doesn't matter what racial AR you use it will dominate. Iam guessing you've been using the TAC AR since the launch of Uprising, so you haven't got use to the range with the other assault rifles variants (it took me awhile to do the same with my SMG's)
It's quite clear the majority of players gaming experiences come from COD, MAG and EVE, clearly you have no idea what an OP weapon is or looks like.
Tilly in confrontation
MAV in BF3
Free fire swarms in closed beta
Just a few examples, please show me the carnage players were causing with the TAC.. Nobody was picking up the TAC and going 20+ kills a match with strictly their gun...
Let me guess you thought the LMG in MAG was OP too right? |
Mobias Wyvern
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.07.06 09:30:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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