DUST Search - What is the point?

Draco Dustflier wrote:

da GAND wrote:

Django Quik wrote:

I'm sad to say that even I have started to tire of this game. I've loved it and defended it vociferously against naysayers and trolls but though I still believe it will be great, it's in desperate need of new gameplay - not new suits; not new weapons; new stuff to do. We don't have the ability to create our own stories because only a score of corps has the will and ability to play planetary conquest and faction warfare is utterly meaningless to us.

CCP has given us lemons, told us to make lemonade but given us nothing to juice with and no jug to put it in and no sugar to sweeten it with. For now we just have lemons.

The update was just a new layer of paint, the gameplay hasn't changed at all. It's still a lobby shooter and it still has alot of bugs and glitches. It may become boring for people that have been playing since closed beta but CCP doesn't have to worry about inactive players because since it's officially released and u can see a pic of Dust when u open the PS store CCP won't have to care if their next update that actually changes the game takes six months or maybe a year because they'll be getting hundreds of new players every week.

No. Just no. if you actually believe this, you are completely blind. the new player experience is so terrible that i can pretty much guarantee you that 95% of the hundreds of new players thwt cone in every week quit in the first few days. A new layer of paint is not enough to fix this game. Unless ccp steps their game up, dust will not last another six months.
On ps4, it will lose the only advantage it has; its the only f2p game on ps3. ps4 will have planetside 2, which absolutely demolishes dust in the gameplay department, and blacklight retribution, which has an even deeper level of customization while still letting the players switch it up since they don't have togrind for everything. In its currwnt state, there's no reason to play dust if you have other, more fun free titles to choose from.

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Wakko03 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 168	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:32:00 - [1] - Quote Where is the story aspect of this game? Why is there absolutely nothing in the game telling me what I am doing or what is going on, some sort of interstellar news broadcast? It is 10pm do you know where your clone is..... yeah he is sitting on the toilet inside the mcc AFK-ing because there is nothing else to do. I thought this was supposed to be a ground war? All I do is go to instant battle and fight the same people over and over... PC battles or the actual battle system is/are a joke. I tried to find a factional battle, but apparently there are none of these going on as well? (not one that would launch me) I then tried to find a Merc battle.... the only 1 available is a battle that has 2 bars for connectivity... I can only imagine how laggy that is, no thanks.... So, what am I supposed to do for fun around here?
Full Metal Kitten Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 711	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:36:00 - [2] - Quote Wakko03 wrote: So, what am I supposed to do for fun around here? A lot of people play the QQ forum mini-game for fun. At least I think they're having fun. It would be silly if they were crying about a video game.
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Frontlinez 97	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:36:00 - [3] - Quote Wakko03 wrote: Where is the story aspect of this game? Why is there absolutely nothing in the game telling me what I am doing or what is going on, some sort of interstellar news broadcast? It is 10pm do you know where your clone is..... yeah he is sitting on the toilet inside the mcc AFK-ing because there is nothing else to do. I thought this was supposed to be a ground war? All I do is go to instant battle and fight the same people over and over... PC battles or the actual battle system is/are a joke. I tried to find a factional battle, but apparently there are none of these going on as well? (not one that would launch me) I then tried to find a Merc battle.... the only 1 available is a battle that has 2 bars for connectivity... I can only imagine how laggy that is, no thanks.... So, what am I supposed to do for fun around here? Kitten, moan, and QQ on the forums. That's what everyone else does it seems. Look, you've accomplished all three!
Lilah Silverstone The Arrow Project 65	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:42:00 - [4] - Quote You must be new here. New Eden thrives off of player driven content aka not the story. Even FW for the most part is driven by corps wanting to be better than other corps not the story. Needless to say all of this is currently in Dust in a limited form, that being PC. More options for creating content will come with future releases, and hopefully PVE and/or iterations on FW and PC can provide what you seek.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 308	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:45:00 - [5] - Quote The game currently bores me. Maybe when CCP fixes armor I will come back to the game. For now, its forum trolling for me.
da GAND 187. Unclaimed. 2	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:51:00 - [6] - Quote Wakko03 wrote: Where is the story aspect of this game? Why is there absolutely nothing in the game telling me what I am doing or what is going on, some sort of interstellar news broadcast? It is 10pm do you know where your clone is..... yeah he is sitting on the toilet inside the mcc AFK-ing because there is nothing else to do. I thought this was supposed to be a ground war? All I do is go to instant battle and fight the same people over and over... PC battles or the actual battle system is/are a joke. I tried to find a factional battle, but apparently there are none of these going on as well? (not one that would launch me) I then tried to find a Merc battle.... the only 1 available is a battle that has 2 bars for connectivity... I can only imagine how laggy that is, no thanks.... So, what am I supposed to do for fun around here? I know how u feel, Right now PC battles are just expensive or highly rewarding skirmish battles, domination is kind of a mix of Ambush and Skirmish. There really isn't that great of a difference between this build and the previous one.
Allah's Snackbar Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 61	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:52:00 - [7] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: The game currently bores me. Maybe when CCP fixes armor I will come back to the game. For now, its forum trolling for me. More people playing the forums than the game it seems.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3448	Posted - 2013.06.06 20:00:00 - [8] - Quote Woo lobby shooter! \o/
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4931	Posted - 2013.06.06 20:01:00 - [9] - Quote Write your own story. If you want to be some broker of information or an asset trader gun for hire or bounty hunter its up to you. Unfourutnately many of the game tools are making it difficult to be any one of these things but its not stopping some people.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3448	Posted - 2013.06.06 20:02:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Write your own story. If you want to be some broker of information or an asset trader gun for hire or bounty hunter its up to you. Unfourutnately many of the game tools are making it difficult to be any one of these things but its not stopping some people. AKA, when CCP gives you lemons...

A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 111	Posted - 2013.06.06 20:13:00 - [11] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Write your own story. If you want to be some broker of information or an asset trader gun for hire or bounty hunter its up to you. Unfourutnately many of the game tools are making it difficult to be any one of these things but its not stopping some people. AKA, when CCP gives you lemons... Equip RE's
Wakko03 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 172	Posted - 2013.06.06 20:31:00 - [12] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Write your own story. If you want to be some broker of information or an asset trader gun for hire or bounty hunter its up to you. Unfourutnately many of the game tools are making it difficult to be any one of these things but its not stopping some people. AKA, when CCP gives you lemons... But CCP didn't even give you a lemon. To the others..... So does CCP want me to pretend this is an actual game, to be fair if this was in an arcade... I'd still be over at the pool table or pinball machine versus wasting my quarters on this. What ever happened to the opening movie from the previous build? There was that (I suppose) empress... followed by some sort of military guy (the admiral?). Right now all I know is that I am on some planet apparently stuck inside a 5x25 room, I can't do anything and there is nothing to do but go into an instant battle.... did CCP change their mind and go from a hazing ritual game to a simple prison sim?
Arrach Sarkal PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 0	Posted - 2013.06.06 20:32:00 - [13] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Write your own story. If you want to be some broker of information or an asset trader gun for hire or bounty hunter its up to you. Unfourutnately many of the game tools are making it difficult to be any one of these things but its not stopping some people. AKA, when CCP gives you lemons... Make CCP take the lemons back, get mad and demand to see Hilmar?
Lilah Silverstone The Arrow Project 67	Posted - 2013.06.06 20:37:00 - [14] - Quote Arrach Sarkal wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Write your own story. If you want to be some broker of information or an asset trader gun for hire or bounty hunter its up to you. Unfourutnately many of the game tools are making it difficult to be any one of these things but its not stopping some people. AKA, when CCP gives you lemons... Make CCP take the lemons back, get mad and demand to see Hilmar? Then get laughed at by everyone else over your ability to over estimate your importance?
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 372	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:17:00 - [15] - Quote Wakko03 wrote: Where is the story aspect of this game? Why is there absolutely nothing in the game telling me what I am doing or what is going on, some sort of interstellar news broadcast? It is 10pm do you know where your clone is..... yeah he is sitting on the toilet inside the mcc AFK-ing because there is nothing else to do. I thought this was supposed to be a ground war? All I do is go to instant battle and fight the same people over and over... PC battles or the actual battle system is/are a joke. I tried to find a factional battle, but apparently there are none of these going on as well? (not one that would launch me) I then tried to find a Merc battle.... the only 1 available is a battle that has 2 bars for connectivity... I can only imagine how laggy that is, no thanks.... So, what am I supposed to do for fun around here? Same thing you do when all the other FPSs get this way, at lest with DUST if yo come back later there will be things waiting for you. I agree that there is not enough news or anything that make this game feel like something different. http://themittani.com/ has some news that make the game more interesting but we were need some content and more EVE connectivity.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 616	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:31:00 - [16] - Quote I'm sad to say that even I have started to tire of this game. I've loved it and defended it vociferously against naysayers and trolls but though I still believe it will be great, it's in desperate need of new gameplay - not new suits; not new weapons; new stuff to do. We don't have the ability to create our own stories because only a score of corps has the will and ability to play planetary conquest and faction warfare is utterly meaningless to us. CCP has given us lemons, told us to make lemonade but given us nothing to juice with and no jug to put it in and no sugar to sweeten it with. For now we just have lemons.
Wakko03 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 174	Posted - 2013.06.06 22:42:00 - [17] - Quote I still believe that ccp only mentioned lemons... they didn't even really give us that; ok maybe they gave us half of one lemon and mentioned that the other half might be around somewhere.... but it can't be mentioned in polite conversation. Listen, my days of pretending I am in the muppet babbies, with kermit and miss piggy using my imagination to have adventures, ended a long time ago. Sorry, but I need at least the bare minimum of a hint of a story to expand on it, even to have some idea of what I am to be thinking about. So IN my dust, the empress died from the onset of a communicablely transmitted diseases... wink wink.... the imperial consort was a little indiscreet with the working ladies and he liked them cheap. Or is it a plot to overthrow her, does she have a brother? It is fishbowl, line harvest, & the other one. IF something on the factional map changes... I am not going to now about it, because of the needle in the haystack... and before you say just look around, it is about as fun to do as play dungeons and dragons with a 5 year old and 65 year old making up your party....there you really had to make your own adventures. (which pages do I turn to if I want my dust guy to leave the planet I am on? for those who remember the choose your own adventure books.)
da GAND 187. Unclaimed. 3	Posted - 2013.06.06 23:23:00 - [18] - Quote Django Quik wrote: I'm sad to say that even I have started to tire of this game. I've loved it and defended it vociferously against naysayers and trolls but though I still believe it will be great, it's in desperate need of new gameplay - not new suits; not new weapons; new stuff to do. We don't have the ability to create our own stories because only a score of corps has the will and ability to play planetary conquest and faction warfare is utterly meaningless to us. CCP has given us lemons, told us to make lemonade but given us nothing to juice with and no jug to put it in and no sugar to sweeten it with. For now we just have lemons. The update was just a new layer of paint, the gameplay hasn't changed at all. It's still a lobby shooter and it still has alot of bugs and glitches. It may become boring for people that have been playing since closed beta but CCP doesn't have to worry about inactive players because since it's officially released and u can see a pic of Dust when u open the PS store CCP won't have to care if their next update that actually changes the game takes six months or maybe a year because they'll be getting hundreds of new players every week.
AmarrTemplar 196 Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.06.07 00:16:00 - [19] - Quote Django Quik wrote: I'm sad to say that even I have started to tire of this game. I've loved it and defended it vociferously against naysayers and trolls but though I still believe it will be great, it's in desperate need of new gameplay - not new suits; not new weapons; new stuff to do. We don't have the ability to create our own stories because only a score of corps has the will and ability to play planetary conquest and faction warfare is utterly meaningless to us. CCP has given us lemons, told us to make lemonade but given us nothing to juice with and no jug to put it in and no sugar to sweeten it with. For now we just have lemons. Honerable admittance. That is where the core of the community stands, real schitt. I will be posted up in the mcc till schitt gets good, if eva.
Bling Blaine Ringer For Hire 204	Posted - 2013.06.07 18:29:00 - [20] - Quote Hey we are both in the mcc together right now as we speak.^^^^^^^^^ Funnies

Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1558	Posted - 2013.06.07 18:55:00 - [21] - Quote DUST is still a mid-beta product even if CCP decided to slap a "Released" label on it. They are working on the basic FPS mechanics and will probably require another 6-12 months to iron all that out before they can start working on deepening the game beyond a simple lobby shooter limited to a couple versions of team deathmatch. We stick around for the promise of depth of RTS to come. Meanwhile we grind so our characters will be able to take advantage of that when it comes. Having an active corp helps immensely as chatting with your friends greatly alleviates the boredom. You can also make your own game modes like "Death Race 514" to spice things up while you wait, or simply wait the time out in the MCC.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1432	Posted - 2013.06.07 18:56:00 - [22] - Quote The players make the story. Not so much with dust yet (maybe if there was more PC and FW, rather than pub matches), but it's getting there.
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 165	Posted - 2013.06.07 19:01:00 - [23] - Quote Lilah Silverstone wrote: You must be new here. New Eden thrives off of player driven content aka not the story. Even FW for the most part is driven by corps wanting to be better than other corps not the story. Needless to say all of this is currently in Dust in a limited form, that being PC. More options for creating content will come with future releases, and hopefully PVE and/or iterations on FW and PC can provide what you seek. There does need to be a way to pull the new players into the lore of New Eden. PvE would work wonders for this. Especially if there were small cutscenes playing out some faction based drama that would lead to battles.
Geth Massredux Defensores Doctrina 379	Posted - 2013.06.07 19:04:00 - [24] - Quote Well the point of this game is this- play it, shoot others, and try to have fun, also try not to come on forums and cry about it... - GETH
RoundEy3 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 34	Posted - 2013.06.07 19:11:00 - [25] - Quote I think CCP has put focus and concern on creating better atmosphere and story. At least better than they have so far. Even with eve it's strange how little information is provided in game, about anything really. I have never played a game on pc or console that requires so much hunting for relevant and current info. While that is the norm in Eve I think it has made CCP lazy or slightly ignorant to the fact that their games are greatly lacking in the presentation department. Once you learn of the freedom you have it is great, but in the case of DUST that isn't really there yet. So unless you've played Eve, searched down info, verified it is true and up to date then most people coming to play DUST fresh for the first time aren't going to have a clue to much of anything. It is a major issue because a "new" crowd is what this game is reaching out to, and just shooting stuff doesn't cut it for a long time. So far the early planning and execution of many anticipations have been kind of a mirage. Though it certainly seems they are working on imporving and implementing many things. Anyone following for a while can see they are trying to be creative and learn from mistakes. Personally I'm waiting on 3 things: P S 4
Draco Dustflier DUST University Ivy League 61	Posted - 2013.06.07 20:10:00 - [26] - Quote da GAND wrote: Django Quik wrote: I'm sad to say that even I have started to tire of this game. I've loved it and defended it vociferously against naysayers and trolls but though I still believe it will be great, it's in desperate need of new gameplay - not new suits; not new weapons; new stuff to do. We don't have the ability to create our own stories because only a score of corps has the will and ability to play planetary conquest and faction warfare is utterly meaningless to us. CCP has given us lemons, told us to make lemonade but given us nothing to juice with and no jug to put it in and no sugar to sweeten it with. For now we just have lemons. The update was just a new layer of paint, the gameplay hasn't changed at all. It's still a lobby shooter and it still has alot of bugs and glitches. It may become boring for people that have been playing since closed beta but CCP doesn't have to worry about inactive players because since it's officially released and u can see a pic of Dust when u open the PS store CCP won't have to care if their next update that actually changes the game takes six months or maybe a year because they'll be getting hundreds of new players every week. No. Just no. if you actually believe this, you are completely blind. the new player experience is so terrible that i can pretty much guarantee you that 95% of the hundreds of new players thwt cone in every week quit in the first few days. A new layer of paint is not enough to fix this game. Unless ccp steps their game up, dust will not last another six months. On ps4, it will lose the only advantage it has; its the only f2p game on ps3. ps4 will have planetside 2, which absolutely demolishes dust in the gameplay department, and blacklight retribution, which has an even deeper level of customization while still letting the players switch it up since they don't have togrind for everything. In its currwnt state, there's no reason to play dust if you have other, more fun free titles to choose from.
da GAND 187. Unclaimed. 3	Posted - 2013.06.08 03:07:00 - [27] - Quote Draco Dustflier wrote: da GAND wrote: Django Quik wrote: I'm sad to say that even I have started to tire of this game. I've loved it and defended it vociferously against naysayers and trolls but though I still believe it will be great, it's in desperate need of new gameplay - not new suits; not new weapons; new stuff to do. We don't have the ability to create our own stories because only a score of corps has the will and ability to play planetary conquest and faction warfare is utterly meaningless to us. CCP has given us lemons, told us to make lemonade but given us nothing to juice with and no jug to put it in and no sugar to sweeten it with. For now we just have lemons. The update was just a new layer of paint, the gameplay hasn't changed at all. It's still a lobby shooter and it still has alot of bugs and glitches. It may become boring for people that have been playing since closed beta but CCP doesn't have to worry about inactive players because since it's officially released and u can see a pic of Dust when u open the PS store CCP won't have to care if their next update that actually changes the game takes six months or maybe a year because they'll be getting hundreds of new players every week. No. Just no. if you actually believe this, you are completely blind. the new player experience is so terrible that i can pretty much guarantee you that 95% of the hundreds of new players thwt cone in every week quit in the first few days. A new layer of paint is not enough to fix this game. Unless ccp steps their game up, dust will not last another six months. On ps4, it will lose the only advantage it has; its the only f2p game on ps3. ps4 will have planetside 2, which absolutely demolishes dust in the gameplay department, and blacklight retribution, which has an even deeper level of customization while still letting the players switch it up since they don't have togrind for everything. In its currwnt state, there's no reason to play dust if you have other, more fun free titles to choose from.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1458	Posted - 2013.06.08 03:14:00 - [28] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: The game currently bores me. Maybe when CCP fixes armor I will come back to the game. For now, its forum trolling for me. New armor modules are confirmed for next build
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1849	Posted - 2013.06.08 04:39:00 - [29] - Quote Wakko03 wrote: Where is the story aspect of this game? Why is there absolutely nothing in the game telling me what I am doing or what is going on, some sort of interstellar news broadcast? It is 10pm do you know where your clone is..... yeah he is sitting on the toilet inside the mcc AFK-ing because there is nothing else to do. I thought this was supposed to be a ground war? All I do is go to instant battle and fight the same people over and over... PC battles or the actual battle system is/are a joke. I tried to find a factional battle, but apparently there are none of these going on as well? (not one that would launch me) I then tried to find a Merc battle.... the only 1 available is a battle that has 2 bars for connectivity... I can only imagine how laggy that is, no thanks.... So, what am I supposed to do for fun around here? Well, if you're expecting some kind of deep, story-driven PvE experience, you came to the wrong place. CCP games, as a rule, are player-driven.
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1940	Posted - 2013.06.08 04:40:00 - [30] - Quote Get to the point all ready, Thank you thank you



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