DUST Search - STOP the MCC sniper camping and MCC ISK farming

Kazeno Rannaa wrote:

People like you are just the beginning of the problem. Redline and MCC sniping is just a childish way to participate in the event of a battle. It is a dirt means of engaging targets especially since the release of Uprising has brought about a reduction in the draw distances for some reason.

A player should be limited in the amount of time that the sit in the redline or the MCC during a domination or skirmish match.

The aggravating issues involved with this sort of thing is this: MCC I cannot always exact my revenge because the opposing sniper is TOO MUCH OF A CRYING CHILD to get out and face the music of their choices, the poor performance of their team, and more than likely the complete lack of communication between the players on said team in the match. This is especially true with public matches. But it has been happening in FW and PC.

Solution is having a timer that only allows a player to be in either location for so long, but if you are not in the active you should no be able to accrue any WP for you actions. This is is you are shooting from the MCC or just behind the redline (which though you may be shot, that is if the redline sniper is not head-glitching, I often cannot chase you down far enough to eliminate the camping spot.).

I would say a 60 - 90 second timer to pickup and move out of the MCC or redline, and any and all kills or assists that come from camping in the redline produces NO WP. The incentive has to be remove if you want to get the dumb cattle moving.

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Jammer Jalapeno BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 13	Posted - 2013.06.06 12:36:00 - [1] - Quote Make it so you die after 15 seconds or something repeat 3 times kicked from the match
EXASTRA INVICTAS Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 69	Posted - 2013.06.06 12:38:00 - [2] - Quote Oh yes I would love it if the game automatically killed me while I took 15 seconds to check the scoreboard and/or map from within the security of the MCC. Great idea, totally solves the problem, no apparent drawbacks, POTY, golden thread. +1
Jammer Jalapeno BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 13	Posted - 2013.06.06 12:39:00 - [3] - Quote EXASTRA INVICTAS wrote: Oh yes I would love it if the game automatically killed me while I took 15 seconds to check the scoreboard and/or map from within the security of the MCC. Great idea, totally solves the problem, no apparent drawbacks, POTY, golden thread. +1 You can do that during all the other wait time half this game is wait time You must be one of those sniping wimps
EXASTRA INVICTAS Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 69	Posted - 2013.06.06 12:43:00 - [4] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: EXASTRA INVICTAS wrote: Oh yes I would love it if the game automatically killed me while I took 15 seconds to check the scoreboard and/or map from within the security of the MCC. Great idea, totally solves the problem, no apparent drawbacks, POTY, golden thread. +1 You can do that during all the other wait time half this game is wait time You must be one of those sniping wimps Yup, must be. Someone doesn't like your idea? They must be negatively affected by it! Have I sniped from the MCC? Sure, once or twice. I even tried it on Domination once after someone said it's too easy to get kills in Domination from the MCC (they were correct). Do I do it often, or make a habit out of it? No. Out of all the games I've played, I've went and MCC sniped maybe 5 or 6 times total. And even then I only do it for a bit before I jump out. I prefer a good sniping position to a "safe" one. That aside, I'm a vehicle specialist, not an infantryman. Your accusation is as laughable as your idea. Also: Don't tell me when to check the map. I'll check it when I please, thank you.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 245	Posted - 2013.06.06 12:46:00 - [5] - Quote I sniped you yesterday ^^
Jammer JAMS BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 14	Posted - 2013.06.06 12:55:00 - [6] - Quote calisk galern wrote: I sniped you yesterday ^^ Wimp
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 245	Posted - 2013.06.06 12:58:00 - [7] - Quote Jammer JAMS wrote: calisk galern wrote: I sniped you yesterday ^^ Wimp target practice
Mikey The Bandaid D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 8	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:07:00 - [8] - Quote Lol Calisk, you are a man among boys. 40-0 last night. As annoying as MCC sniping is, it's in the game so use it until its removed. The real problem is AFKing in the MCC. At least MCC snipers and swarm snipers are helping the team in some way.
Jammer JAMS BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 14	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:17:00 - [9] - Quote Only a wimp would hide behind it's mama poking at the bear come out and die Wimp.
Kergg Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:18:00 - [10] - Quote If we could shoot into the MCC, this problem would be solved. Granted, people like Exastra wouldn't be able to hang out in there for a minute and check their stuffGÇönot as safely, anywayGÇöbut anyone sniping from the MCC wouldn't be invulnerable and anyone trying to spawn camp the MCC would be a ready target for units on the ground. Sounds balanced to me...

Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 631	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:24:00 - [11] - Quote Kergg wrote: If we could shoot into the MCC, this problem would be solved. Granted, people like Exastra wouldn't be able to hang out in there for a minute and check their stuffGÇönot as safely, anywayGÇöbut anyone sniping from the MCC wouldn't be invulnerable and anyone trying to spawn camp the MCC would be a ready target for units on the ground. Sounds balanced to me... You can shoot into the MCC actually (on the same maps that let you shoot out of it). I assume it's just a coding bug on the new maps that'll get patched to be like the other maps in the next update. As for AFK issues, I thought they said they were looking at that problem, but I guess they still haven't released a fix.
PADDEHATPIGEN BurgezzE.T.F 27	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:25:00 - [12] - Quote You can just snipe the snipers doing the MCC sniping. hehe I dont se the problem
EXASTRA INVICTAS Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 71	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:26:00 - [13] - Quote Kergg wrote: If we could shoot into the MCC, this problem would be solved. Granted, people like Exastra wouldn't be able to hang out in there for a minute and check their stuffGÇönot as safely, anywayGÇöbut anyone sniping from the MCC wouldn't be invulnerable and anyone trying to spawn camp the MCC would be a ready target for units on the ground. Sounds balanced to me... I got killed by a tank's railgun shot in the MCC yesterday while checking the map, don't tell me it's safe in there. Although I am indeed for the ability to snipe back at people sniping from the MCC if it's not already a feature (I was under the impression it was)
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 246	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:55:00 - [14] - Quote Kergg wrote: If we could shoot into the MCC, this problem would be solved. Granted, people like Exastra wouldn't be able to hang out in there for a minute and check their stuffGÇönot as safely, anywayGÇöbut anyone sniping from the MCC wouldn't be invulnerable and anyone trying to spawn camp the MCC would be a ready target for units on the ground. Sounds balanced to me... you can shoot into the mcc, it's no different then shooting from the mountain last build, except easy to shoot them back. one of the mcc's is hard to shoot back at though, but it's also hard to shoot out of.
Ku Shala Planetary Response Organization 8	Posted - 2013.06.06 16:39:00 - [15] - Quote 1. you can snipe someone in their mcc so get a sniper and kill them. Also stop making crying threads about how you cant take cover from snipers( and no i dont snipe from in the mcc i snipe from on it ) 2. in a real war situation the sniper may be kilometers away from the battle so if its realism we are looking for in a game then instead of everyone crying about snipers sniping from their own red line ( which you cant always see that your in a redline when you are in your own zone you are just choosing the best vantage point) maybe the red lines should be extended and the scopes be extended to 1000m so its more real( zoom would be nice too ) [*] 3. I agree with stopping the isk farming. change the isk payout to the amount of movement up to a certain number of meters and warpoints. no movement/ no kills / no support = no isk
bacon blaster BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 42	Posted - 2013.06.06 16:48:00 - [16] - Quote Thing about mcc sniping is that you can shoot back. As a part time sniper, I shoot from where ever is good at the time. Once a site stops being useful, I go somewhere else. I do have favorite target types, though. One of them is the MCC sniper. They are always in the same spot, packed together, and easy to kill. Pull out that starter sniper fit and start taking heads off. I promise, it'll be great.
Ku Shala Planetary Response Organization 8	Posted - 2013.06.06 16:57:00 - [17] - Quote Why would you blast bacon
Jammer Jalapeno BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 14	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:43:00 - [18] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Make it so you die after 15 seconds or something repeat 3 times kicked from the match Ok lets clear this up here.....Husband went on a rant rampage this morning about snipers, campers and tactical assault rifles not realizing he was signed into my character!! Grrrr Anyway I think 15 seconds is a little unfair however, if your player remains un-active for a few minutes, they should be booted from the match automatically. As for the snipers, well not much you can do about that, yes it is annoying but oh well. If the team was smarter they would keep eyes on where it's coming from and shoot back.
DigiOps Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 346	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:45:00 - [19] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: You must be one of those sniping wimps Wait, what's wrong with sniping again?
bacon blaster BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 43	Posted - 2013.06.06 20:37:00 - [20] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: Why would you blast bacon Because who doesn't want a face full of bacon?

Jammer Jalapeno BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 15	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:55:00 - [21] - Quote DigiOps wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: You must be one of those sniping wimps Wait, what's wrong with sniping again? Nothing is wrong with sniping. A good sniper can give you some great intel and provide cover. Just annoying that's all. LoL I'm sure people have a hate on for everything else too such as Mass Drivers, Lasers, Tanks, etc.... That quote above is not actually from me, my husband was on a rant this morning not realizing he was logged in as Jalapeno.
Ku Shala Planetary Response Organization 8	Posted - 2013.06.07 13:59:00 - [22] - Quote Touche`. Baked crispy plz
Kazeno Rannaa Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 190	Posted - 2013.06.07 14:38:00 - [23] - Quote calisk galern wrote: I sniped you yesterday ^^ I snipe from where ever is best, and I spend time in that position only so long as it is beneficial. I rarely red line snipe outside of the opening volley of a skirmish, unless it's mcc involved sniping which I only do on 4-5 different scenarios of domination and only if I'm on the right side, and I change from this tactic if the opposing teams movements require me else where. on the worst offender, which is the map I faced you on, their really isn't a better position then the MCC you have full view of the letter, all elevated positions, all areas of approach, you can easily destroy all decently places uplinks and nano hives. their really isn't a place better then that. anyway I don't care if you change it, but in my book mcc sniping is a tactic like any other. People like you are just the beginning of the problem. Redline and MCC sniping is just a childish way to participate in the event of a battle. It is a dirt means of engaging targets especially since the release of Uprising has brought about a reduction in the draw distances for some reason. A player should be limited in the amount of time that the sit in the redline or the MCC during a domination or skirmish match. The aggravating issues involved with this sort of thing is this: MCC I cannot always exact my revenge because the opposing sniper is TOO MUCH OF A CRYING CHILD to get out and face the music of their choices, the poor performance of their team, and more than likely the complete lack of communication between the players on said team in the match. This is especially true with public matches. But it has been happening in FW and PC. Solution is having a timer that only allows a player to be in either location for so long, but if you are not in the active you should no be able to accrue any WP for you actions. This is is you are shooting from the MCC or just behind the redline (which though you may be shot, that is if the redline sniper is not head-glitching, I often cannot chase you down far enough to eliminate the camping spot.). I would say a 60 - 90 second timer to pickup and move out of the MCC or redline, and any and all kills or assists that come from camping in the redline produces NO WP. The incentive has to be remove if you want to get the dumb cattle moving.
EXASTRA INVICTAS Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 83	Posted - 2013.06.07 15:13:00 - [24] - Quote Kazeno Rannaa wrote: People like you are just the beginning of the problem. Redline and MCC sniping is just a childish way to participate in the event of a battle. It is a dirt means of engaging targets especially since the release of Uprising has brought about a reduction in the draw distances for some reason. A player should be limited in the amount of time that the sit in the redline or the MCC during a domination or skirmish match. The aggravating issues involved with this sort of thing is this: MCC I cannot always exact my revenge because the opposing sniper is TOO MUCH OF A CRYING CHILD to get out and face the music of their choices, the poor performance of their team, and more than likely the complete lack of communication between the players on said team in the match. This is especially true with public matches. But it has been happening in FW and PC. Solution is having a timer that only allows a player to be in either location for so long, but if you are not in the active you should no be able to accrue any WP for you actions. This is is you are shooting from the MCC or just behind the redline (which though you may be shot, that is if the redline sniper is not head-glitching, I often cannot chase you down far enough to eliminate the camping spot.). I would say a 60 - 90 second timer to pickup and move out of the MCC or redline, and any and all kills or assists that come from camping in the redline produces NO WP. The incentive has to be remove if you want to get the dumb cattle moving. You MCC sniper/RedZone sniper people are like AFK cloaking people. You just won't shut up about trying to fix things that aren't broken. Newsflash, if a sniper is sniping you, YOU CAN SNIPE HIM BACK. Don't have a sniper? Then guess what? It doesn't matter if he's in the MCC, in the Red Zone, at the top of a building, or on a hill on the side of a map! Because you aren't going to kill him from 350 meters away with your Assault Rifle! Is there a problem with people farming ISK/SP from the MCC by sitting there the whole match? Yes, there is a slight problem there. But it's indicative of OTHER problems. When corps roll a whole squad of prototype equipment and just flamboyantly tosses their stuff around with 2 good HAV pilots and a squad team that's working together, it's just not fun at all for the opposing team, composed entirely of random people just looking to have some fun. When it becomes obvious that all they're doing is lowering their KDR and losing a lot of ISK by throwing themselves at a wall of gunfire, the game becomes not fun. It's no wonder they then decide "fine I'll just stay here then" Prototype equipment, like tanks, are things that should only be able to be funded by a mother EVE corporation to the DUST mercenaries. Losing only a few of these things in a single match should be enough to make you reconsider ever using it for a public match again. There is no problem with MCC sniping or "Red Zone sniping" (seriously who on earth decided that was a thing?). The problem is with your attitude towards it. Grab a sniper rifle and prove you're better than them. If you can't; suck it.
Ku Shala Planetary Response Organization 9	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:27:00 - [25] - Quote EXASTRA INVICTAS wrote: [quote=Kazeno Rannaa] suck it. +1
Mikey The Bandaid D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 8	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:44:00 - [26] - Quote Just throwing this out there.... It is very easy to snipe someone sniping from the MCC. Learn how to counter snipe. Also the point of sniping is to be unseen and provide long distance support. Not to be in the mix of things like most people on here complaining think they should be. And this is coming from a full on Logibro who only snipes to counter snipe.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 255	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:49:00 - [27] - Quote Mikey The Bandaid wrote: Just throwing this out there.... It is very easy to snipe someone sniping from the MCC. Learn how to counter snipe. Also the point of sniping is to be unseen and provide long distance support. Not to be in the mix of things like most people on here complaining think they should be. And this is coming from a full on Logibro who only snipes to counter snipe. sniped 14 of them in one match yesterday, of course I try to kill the mcc snipers as opposed to those who use their keyboard to get the job done. as for those who think sniping is useless and everything needs to be solved inside of his own AR range, STFU. players who think that's all their is a fight don't deserve a well thought out response, just STFU and play a different game. I don't really care about sniping from the mcc I will snipe from anywhere including 10 feet in front of you, but I seriously hate people that think we should all be fighting inside the AR's optimal range, where they think it's "fair". to reiterate, **** you.
SubZero DeZigns Don't ask me to Corp 48	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:50:00 - [28] - Quote EXASTRA INVICTAS wrote: There is no problem with MCC sniping or "Red Zone sniping" (seriously who on earth decided that was a thing?). The problem is with your attitude towards it. Grab a sniper rifle and prove you're better than them. If you can't; suck it. I agree! If you don't like it, return the favor! Unless you suck at sniping and biatching about getting sniped is your thing. I was running my Logi suit and got hit from a MCC sniper. I CAME BACK AS A SNIPER AND RETURNED the FAVOR! This scene was the MCC over looking Objective D While this was going on I was able to keep that sniper from sniping my team mates("Whom ever they were at the time") from being sniped while hacking Objective D. If you don't like it, Suck it! <<< This is coming from a fellow sniper"ME" at that. OR Return the favor! ISK Farming is the problem here. I've seen as many as 6 ppl sitting in the MCC doing nothing the whole damn match. That's the problem.
Ku Shala Planetary Response Organization 9	Posted - 2013.06.07 17:00:00 - [29] - Quote if you dont like snipers you can't shoot with an AR then go play an arena game like UT3!
mojo blaze Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.06.09 08:00:00 - [30] - Quote Christ I just played a game were 7 of 16 were snipers. Scoped death my ass, useless pukes . The red force kept us at bay with a tank and for the life of me...5 actually I could not get a follow up shot with the swarm launcher cause the same enemy sniper kept killing me. I was spawning all over the map but somehow, pow head shot . The guy was clear as day on the map, he even had a nano glowing beside him! Sniper class should be some graduated class you can access after X number of kills, not for some **** dips to hide cause they don't want to "die" . Hell create a new class " Observer Mode", at least II'll know for sure this class will be living up to their name sake. Well ok, feel better now. BTW- In no way am I referring to the tactically superior snipers who camp....no perch...no take a tactically superior position as benefits the class in the MCC . Hell I gonna do that now in every game. Say is there a way to tunnel under the map and snipe, maybe using like a periscope ? That would be uber tactical !!



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