DUST Search - New player with some (probably) dumb questions

Asmodeus Reinhart wrote:

Hairy Lurker wrote:

1. Dropsuits need to be purchased. With the exception of the starter builds (and even starter builds if you try to remove / add something), everything loses one item, every single time you die. That's why i'm constantly hearing "don't buy overly expensive gear". But does this apply to the actual dropsuits themselves or not? Do I need to be stocking X amount of whatever suit i'm using? As well as X amount of gear on said suit?

I just want to clarify this one step further as - when I was new, it confused the hell out of me.

If you adjust the "starter" suit. ONLY the items you switch out are "consumed". As in, the whole suit does not -1 every time you die. The items (highlighted in yellow) will still be infinite even though the suit will show a "#" beside them as the suit has become limited. This is a perfectly OK way to upgrade in the beginning on the cheap. Granted these suits are generally junk. With real - IE: non militia armor / shield modules, a decent grenade, and a non militia primary weapon. You can get chomped up plenty but still keep your investment and subsequent losses down.

So again, just to be clear. If I take a starter anti-vehicle class that is infinite.
And I switch out the secondary weapon to the militia SMG qty: 50. That suit will show "50" beside it. It will ONLY consume that militia SMG when you die and the rest of the suit will remain cost free when you die.

When you buy or build ANY - ANY other suit config in the game. The "suit" itself IS consumed when you die. If you are building say a Gallente Scout. You will need to buy Gallente Scout dropsuits to "fit" the rest of the weapons and modules "on". Think of it as the "frame" to which all the other gear is loaded on. And when you eat a grenade. The whole thing is wrecked.

That's how it works. A real way to see if you are bleeding money on a configuration is to click it in the dropsuits section. And hit "restock". It will show how much each "life" is going to cost you including ALL the modules that are equipped and weapons. In most situations you should be able to pull in 150k-250k a match. If your suits cost you $15k each... you could die anywhere from 10-15 times. If your suits are $35k each... it's more like 4-7.

I keep nearly 50 of each combination / class / fit on hand. Restock when I get into the 30's unless it's a specialty thing I don't use much, or only use in a pinch. I try to manage resources wisely for the future when dying costs me hundreds of thousands of ISK. But in the beginning dying isn't going to wipe you out unless you are a blithering idiot when it comes to your fits and subsequent costs. Or you order tanks every match with no upgrades and they just get blown away repeatedly.


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Asmodeus Reinhart Ninth Rim 21	Posted - 2013.06.05 18:33:00 - [1] - Quote I just answered one of your questions in detail in another thread so I'm just going to cut and paste it. Asmodeus Reinhart wrote: Hairy Lurker wrote: 1. Dropsuits need to be purchased. With the exception of the starter builds (and even starter builds if you try to remove / add something), everything loses one item, every single time you die. That's why i'm constantly hearing "don't buy overly expensive gear". But does this apply to the actual dropsuits themselves or not? Do I need to be stocking X amount of whatever suit i'm using? As well as X amount of gear on said suit? I just want to clarify this one step further as - when I was new, it confused the hell out of me. If you adjust the "starter" suit. ONLY the items you switch out are "consumed". As in, the whole suit does not -1 every time you die. The items (highlighted in yellow) will still be infinite even though the suit will show a "#" beside them as the suit has become limited. This is a perfectly OK way to upgrade in the beginning on the cheap. Granted these suits are generally junk. With real - IE: non militia armor / shield modules, a decent grenade, and a non militia primary weapon. You can get chomped up plenty but still keep your investment and subsequent losses down. So again, just to be clear. If I take a starter anti-vehicle class that is infinite. And I switch out the secondary weapon to the militia SMG qty: 50. That suit will show "50" beside it. It will ONLY consume that militia SMG when you die and the rest of the suit will remain cost free when you die. When you buy or build ANY - ANY other suit config in the game. The "suit" itself IS consumed when you die. If you are building say a Gallente Scout. You will need to buy Gallente Scout dropsuits to "fit" the rest of the weapons and modules "on". Think of it as the "frame" to which all the other gear is loaded on. And when you eat a grenade. The whole thing is wrecked. That's how it works. A real way to see if you are bleeding money on a configuration is to click it in the dropsuits section. And hit "restock". It will show how much each "life" is going to cost you including ALL the modules that are equipped and weapons. In most situations you should be able to pull in 150k-250k a match. If your suits cost you $15k each... you could die anywhere from 10-15 times. If your suits are $35k each... it's more like 4-7. I keep nearly 50 of each combination / class / fit on hand. Restock when I get into the 30's unless it's a specialty thing I don't use much, or only use in a pinch. I try to manage resources wisely for the future when dying costs me hundreds of thousands of ISK. But in the beginning dying isn't going to wipe you out unless you are a blithering idiot when it comes to your fits and subsequent costs. Or you order tanks every match with no upgrades and they just get blown away repeatedly.