DUST Search - prone

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

ChromeBreaker wrote:

You dont need to go prone when you can cloak Twisted

Oh the tears when/if my heavy can magically appear

Really?

Because it's been confirmed that cloaking will be an equipment item. Where are your equipment slots, Mr Heavy?

Also, as of the entire history of gaming so far, there are two possibilities when a game has a prone function.

1. Exploitable - dolphin diving and dropshots being the obvious examples.
2. Slows the pace of the game.

Obviously, the first option is just resoundingly a bad idea. The second would be terrible for DUST, and there are other games in which it doesn't work - which is why those games rarely include the option - but it isn't a terrible thing in every game that exists. I'm not saying I'm resoundingly against the concept of prone, but I'm against the implementation of prone in DUST using any method that's been used in any videogame ever.

Do you have some magical non-pace-breaking system you've developed that doesn't open the game to exploits? Because if you do, I'd love to hear what it is.

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markyb01 DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:46:00 - [1] - Quote hi guys why cant we go prone in this game. i mean its 2013 and you would think the ability to go prone would be available in this game does anybody know if it will be introduced to the game. ps im just a frustrated newbie but would like to be able to go pro in this great game
Dust Project 514 Dust Evo 514 3	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:48:00 - [2] - Quote Lol. We can't because CCP says so. [/THREAD]
Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 76	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:48:00 - [3] - Quote Good luck standing up in a heavy plated amarr dropsuit.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 210	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:48:00 - [4] - Quote But dont you see, being able to go prone would instantly make this a COD clone and the fanboys cant have anything remotely like that series here
markyb01 DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:55:00 - [5] - Quote introduce prone and it would be an awsome game that is all
IamI3rian OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 136	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:56:00 - [6] - Quote Redline snipers don't need anymore help by being able to 'go prone.' Also, and bear with me here for a minute, going prone means the only part of you sticking out is your head. Is that really the thing you want me to shoot at? I can always use more headshot kills I suppose.
Panther Alpha Commando Perkone Caldari State 377	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:56:00 - [7] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: But dont you see, being able to go prone would instantly make this a COD clone and the fanboys cant have anything remotely like that series here I actually sock that we still using weapons in Dust 514...if the EvE fans had their way, we will be using only LAV's, Dropships, and Tanks by now.
IamI3rian OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 136	Posted - 2013.06.04 09:02:00 - [8] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Delta 749 wrote: But dont you see, being able to go prone would instantly make this a COD clone and the fanboys cant have anything remotely like that series here I actually sock that we still using weapons in Dust 514...if the EvE fans had their way, we will be using only LAV's, Dropships, and Tanks by now. Nope. We'd have speeders and jets too. = D
Jenova's Witness The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 144	Posted - 2013.06.04 09:04:00 - [9] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Delta 749 wrote: But dont you see, being able to go prone would instantly make this a COD clone and the fanboys cant have anything remotely like that series here I actually sock that we still using weapons in Dust 514...if the EvE fans had their way, we will be using only LAV's, Dropships, and Tanks by now. I'm an EVE player and I prefer playing infantry over vehicles so your argument is invalid.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 211	Posted - 2013.06.04 09:05:00 - [10] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Delta 749 wrote: But dont you see, being able to go prone would instantly make this a COD clone and the fanboys cant have anything remotely like that series here I actually sock that we still using weapons in Dust 514...if the EvE fans had their way, we will be using only LAV's, Dropships, and Tanks by now. No if the EvE fans had their way we wouldnt even be fighting, it would just tally up each teams SP totals and whoever had the higher number would win the battle

Panther Alpha Commando Perkone Caldari State 377	Posted - 2013.06.04 09:08:00 - [11] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Delta 749 wrote: But dont you see, being able to go prone would instantly make this a COD clone and the fanboys cant have anything remotely like that series here I actually sock that we still using weapons in Dust 514...if the EvE fans had their way, we will be using only LAV's, Dropships, and Tanks by now. No if the EvE fans had their way we wouldnt even be fighting, it would just tally up each teams SP totals and whoever had the higher number would win the battle We getting there... Just look at the Planetary Conquest. Is more fighting and killing outside the game, than it is in the actual battles.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 534	Posted - 2013.06.04 09:23:00 - [12] - Quote You dont need to go prone when you can cloak Oh the tears when/if my heavy can magically appear
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 15	Posted - 2013.06.04 10:41:00 - [13] - Quote markyb01 wrote: hi guys why cant we go prone in this game. i mean its 2013 and you would think the ability to go prone would be available in this game does anybody know if it will be introduced to the game. ps im just a frustrated newbie but would like to be able to go pro in this great game Prone or not is a design choice, not a technological one. I personally prefer no-prone because letting people go prone slows down the fighting and turns everyone into lamer grassy bush campers, soon everyone's crawling around the whole map prone with their balls in their purses. No one wants to cap the null cannon because they might have to go un-prone and risk getting shot, etc etc etc.
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 83	Posted - 2013.06.04 10:51:00 - [14] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: You dont need to go prone when you can cloak Oh the tears when/if my heavy can magically appear chrome I really like you, but invisible heavies? damned, this is gonna get though ^^
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3216	Posted - 2013.06.04 11:51:00 - [15] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: You dont need to go prone when you can cloak Oh the tears when/if my heavy can magically appear Really? Because it's been confirmed that cloaking will be an equipment item. Where are your equipment slots, Mr Heavy? Also, as of the entire history of gaming so far, there are two possibilities when a game has a prone function. 1. Exploitable - dolphin diving and dropshots being the obvious examples. 2. Slows the pace of the game. Obviously, the first option is just resoundingly a bad idea. The second would be terrible for DUST, and there are other games in which it doesn't work - which is why those games rarely include the option - but it isn't a terrible thing in every game that exists. I'm not saying I'm resoundingly against the concept of prone, but I'm against the implementation of prone in DUST using any method that's been used in any videogame ever. Do you have some magical non-pace-breaking system you've developed that doesn't open the game to exploits? Because if you do, I'd love to hear what it is.
Wakko03 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 167	Posted - 2013.06.04 12:10:00 - [16] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: ChromeBreaker wrote: You dont need to go prone when you can cloak Oh the tears when/if my heavy can magically appear Really? Because it's been confirmed that cloaking will be an equipment item. Where are your equipment slots, Mr Heavy? Also, as of the entire history of gaming so far, there are two possibilities when a game has a prone function. 1. Exploitable - dolphin diving and dropshots being the obvious examples. 2. Slows the pace of the game. Obviously, the first option is just resoundingly a bad idea. The second would be terrible for DUST, and there are other games in which it doesn't work - which is why those games rarely include the option - but it isn't a terrible thing in every game that exists. I'm not saying I'm resoundingly against the concept of prone, but I'm against the implementation of prone in DUST using any method that's been used in any videogame ever. Do you have some magical non-pace-breaking system you've developed that doesn't open the game to exploits? Because if you do, I'd love to hear what it is. You have forgotten what MAG taught us about going prone, when you can walk thru an enemy character model while being BLOCKED from moving by a Bluedot, because of the say the 6 stupid snipers hanging out on staircases (To make this Dust based.... why do you want to go prone? Is it for in the MCC to snipe, now that the mountainsides and all the places of height that can't be reached have all been identified). Which was quickly followed by why melee attacks from a prone position were able to OHK the standing player but the non-prone players stabbing downward into the head or back of the prone player resulted in less damage.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 262	Posted - 2013.06.04 12:19:00 - [17] - Quote Why is having prone a requirement? Some of the funnest games I ever played were proneless. Counter Strike 1.6 - AKA the FPS that was used for years upon years in competitive play, and is one of the most thrilling and exciting games. (Well, was, unfortunately after more than 10 years it finally died.) Battlefield Bad Company 2 - I still think its 10 times better than BF3, sure it isn't as realistic but was far more fun. Borderlands 1 and 2 - Awesome games, just play them Half Life - Need I say more? And these are just the games I found much more fun than the average. There are many more games that are good but are without prone. Example being Killzone, and the halo series in general. And many more.
Rag NW Recruiter NW WARLORDS 0	Posted - 2013.06.04 12:23:00 - [18] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: But dont you see, being able to go prone would instantly make this a COD clone and the fanboys can't have anything remotely like that series here There are certain things that can't be considered a game's franchise exclusive features. Thinking that adding a abily so generic such as go prone does not make this game equal to a game with the same feature is just foolish. same thing applies to the abillity to cook grenades. I'll like to see this feature implemented in Dust 514 but well implemented the idea of a heavy going prone is ridiculous, yes, so make so the heavy's can't go prone or if you must apply this to all suits you just don't let heavy suits operate heavy weapons when in prone the can still using their sidearm and throw grenades.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 15	Posted - 2013.06.04 12:27:00 - [19] - Quote Rag NW Recruiter wrote: Delta 749 wrote: But dont you see, being able to go prone would instantly make this a COD clone and the fanboys can't have anything remotely like that series here There are certain things that can't be considered a game's franchise exclusive features. Thinking that adding a abily so generic such as go prone does not make this game equal to a game with the same feature is just foolish. same thing applies to the abillity to cook grenades. I'll like to see this feature implemented in Dust 514 but well implemented the idea of a heavy going prone is ridiculous, yes, so make so the heavy's can't go prone or if you must apply this to all suits you just don't let heavy suits operate heavy weapons when in prone the can still using their sidearm and throw grenades. It "might" be interesting to give scouts only the ability to go prone, would certainly give them something unique. Probably too much programming just for one class though.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 535	Posted - 2013.06.04 12:31:00 - [20] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: ChromeBreaker wrote: You dont need to go prone when you can cloak Oh the tears when/if my heavy can magically appear Really? Because it's been confirmed that cloaking will be an equipment item. Where are your equipment slots, Mr Heavy? pfft talk about spoiling my fun!! Why CCP WHY! heavies have feelings too Edit: link to confirmation? its not that i dont believe you, i just want to argue against it



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