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P-A-R-A-D-O-X
A-S-S-A-S-S-I-N
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Posted - 2013.06.02 04:25:00 -
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Hey guys...
Having been inspired by the now current Templar Manhunt, I got an idea for a new 'brand' of suit of 'my own' - like the Dren, & Skinweave for example - with a new 'perk'(which I notice the Skinweave Logistics has)...
So the idea, is for there to have a special class of suits called(of course), the 'PARADOX' suits(lol), which possess the ability to automatically double the effectiveness of the modules equipped...
So each module slot on the suit, weather high or low powered, automatically boosts the abilities(good or bad, as in the case of penalties)of the modules put into\onto them by 100%...
The 'PARADOX' suits of course, like the Dren, Skinweave etc, would be STANDARD suits, & therefore won't have too much of an 'advantage', except over standard suits using standard modules, & would grant the players using them similar abilities compared to that of aurum items - the ability to be stronger\more effective than their current skill level without having acquired said skills...
The 'PARADOX' suits - if they don't suit normal play in Dust & are hence impractical - could be classed as rare items, used in other events like the Templar Manhunt or even given to new players as a start up boost y-know? O.O
Please consider my, *Ehem* awesome suit(concept - lol)... =] |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.06.02 06:07:00 -
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Paradox suit running 3 damage mods, and 3 armor mods.
Good luck with that, could take down a tank single handedly. |
P-A-R-A-D-O-X
A-S-S-A-S-S-I-N
11
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:47:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Paradox suit running 3 damage mods, and 3 armor mods.
Good luck with that, could take down a tank single handedly.
Good luck with that' shows doubt, & a lack of support - you think my idea isn't good - I Do Not Appreciate That Statement...
The PARADOX - capital letters thank you - suits are meant to 'aid' new comers to Dust & more so, to be 'better than' standard suits from the get go...
They Are Not Meant To Be All Out Invincible(& can only become same if there are Advanced or Prototype versions...
My Amarr Proto Logi can take down a tank singlehandedly as well - but that's besides the point - especially since I can do same to an Amarr Heavy which has 810HP stock... The STANDARD PARADOX suits won't be able to achieve that lvl of HP, except when using Proto equipment AND having maxed out other skills which boost their effectiveness - & that's still only if you stack defensive modules on them...
Again - the PARADOX suits are not meant to be superior to any suit class besides STANDARD... I just want there to be Standard suits which are more formidable\decent\etc...
It's an AWESOME idea... |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
239
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:02:00 -
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Any standard suit can easily fit at least a GLU and some dmg mods on top of that. Can you say 30 potential kills per mag? |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:05:00 -
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P-A-R-A-D-O-X wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Paradox suit running 3 damage mods, and 3 armor mods.
Good luck with that, could take down a tank single handedly. Good luck with that' shows doubt, & a lack of support - you think my idea isn't good - I Do Not Appreciate That Statement... The PARADOX - capital letters thank you - suits are meant to 'aid' new comers to Dust & more so, to be 'better than' standard suits from the get go... They Are Not Meant To Be All Out Invincible(& can only become same if there are Advanced or Prototype versions... My Amarr Proto Logi can take down a tank singlehandedly as well - but that's besides the point - especially since I can do same to an Amarr Heavy which has 810HP stock... The STANDARD PARADOX suits won't be able to achieve that lvl of HP, except when using Proto equipment AND having maxed out other skills which boost their effectiveness - & that's still only if you stack defensive modules on them... Again - the PARADOX suits are not meant to be superior to any suit class besides STANDARD... I just want there to be Standard suits which are more formidable\decent\etc... It's an AWESOME idea...
Well, if I had a paradox suit, with 3 Highs, 3 Lows, my immediate response would be;
Duvolle Tactical AR Damage With Suit - 116.18 (Per Shot) (Total DPS = 691.9) Breach Scrambler Pistol Damage With Suit - 179.08 (Per Shot) Locus Grenade 3 x Advanced Damage Mods (Whether Sidearm or Light) (Taking into account that the 2nd and 3rd are only 70% effective, that would be 24%) In a Paradox Suit that would be 48% increase in damage. 3 x Advanced Shield Mods (Taking into account that the 2nd and 3rd are only 70% effective, that would be 276) In a Paradox Suit that would be 552 Armor Points on top of the usual 210 Armor, 120 Shields.
So that's 762 Armor + 120 Shields = 882 Total Hitpoints. Dealing Close to 700 damage per second. |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:15:00 -
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You want a suit named after you? |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
239
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:23:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:You want a suit named after you? No, he wants a "completely broken OP for no good reason" suit named after him.
Read between the lines, i know it's subtle.
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DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
339
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:37:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:DigiOps wrote:You want a suit named after you? No, he wants a "completely broken OP for no good reason" suit named after him. Read between the lines, i know it's subtle. What did I do? |
Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:40:00 -
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I'd imagine it'd be purchased with AUR. AUR is meant to speed progression, not to make you a god among kings. DUST 514 is not a pay-to-win game. I do not give support. :) |
Raze galder
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
66
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:22:00 -
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They have a suit like in the works think it was called the crusader suit that gives team buffs and stuff through modules think some increased damage,armor and running speed |
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Rachoi
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:35:00 -
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nah, i rather dislike the idea. there is a little too much chance for it becoming an Uber Glass Cannon that can do way too much with what they get. just because it magnifies the bad, doesn't make it good, due to the fact many modules do not have a major downside |
P-A-R-A-D-O-X
A-S-S-A-S-S-I-N
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:30:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:P-A-R-A-D-O-X wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Paradox suit running 3 damage mods, and 3 armor mods.
Good luck with that, could take down a tank single handedly. Good luck with that' shows doubt, & a lack of support - you think my idea isn't good - I Do Not Appreciate That Statement... The PARADOX - capital letters thank you - suits are meant to 'aid' new comers to Dust & more so, to be 'better than' standard suits from the get go... They Are Not Meant To Be All Out Invincible(& can only become same if there are Advanced or Prototype versions... My Amarr Proto Logi can take down a tank singlehandedly as well - but that's besides the point - especially since I can do same to an Amarr Heavy which has 810HP stock... The STANDARD PARADOX suits won't be able to achieve that lvl of HP, except when using Proto equipment AND having maxed out other skills which boost their effectiveness - & that's still only if you stack defensive modules on them... Again - the PARADOX suits are not meant to be superior to any suit class besides STANDARD... I just want there to be Standard suits which are more formidable\decent\etc... It's an AWESOME idea... Well, if I had a paradox suit, with 3 Highs, 3 Lows, my immediate response would be; Duvolle Tactical AR Damage With Suit - 116.18 (Per Shot) (Total DPS = 691.9) Breach Scrambler Pistol Damage With Suit - 179.08 (Per Shot) Locus Grenade3 x Advanced Damage Mods (Whether Sidearm or Light) (Taking into account that the 2nd and 3rd are only 70% effective, that would be 24%) In a Paradox Suit that would be 48% increase in damage. 3 x Advanced Shield Mods(Taking into account that the 2nd and 3rd are only 70% effective, that would be 276) In a Paradox Suit that would be 552 Armor Points on top of the usual 210 Armor, 120 Shields. So that's 762 Armor + 120 Shields = 882 Total Hitpoints. Dealing Close to 700 damage per second. Walking at the speed of a heavy. Or you could be even more hilarious and stack 3 Complex Kinectic Catalyzers + Proto Shield Mods for no movement penalty at all, yet insane shields and insane speed. Snipers running one would have a field day, same with AV.
Dude - it has to be a standard suit else the Dust Gods will never go for it...
Four slots - 2 high, 2 low - max...
The CPU\PG remaining the same as all stanDdard rather Militia...
I should have said Militia, because that is what the Skinweave etc are...
I tested it - & you can equip at best 2 enhanced & one basic on a logi suit... |
P-A-R-A-D-O-X
A-S-S-A-S-S-I-N
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:31:00 -
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Raze galder wrote:They have a suit like in the works think it was called the crusader suit that gives team buffs and stuff through modules think some increased damage,armor and running speed
Where do you guys get all this secret data? >.>
I am SOO out of the loop... O.O |
P-A-R-A-D-O-X
A-S-S-A-S-S-I-N
11
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:39:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:You want a suit named after you?
My idea - my name... =P
Besides, I can't think of a cool name that means 'double'... o.O |
Thurak1
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
5
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Posted - 2013.06.04 02:30:00 -
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Such a dropsuit is such a joke this whole thread should be deleted and OP be muted for 1 day to think about how ridiculous the request is. |
P-A-R-A-D-O-X
A-S-S-A-S-S-I-N
11
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Posted - 2013.06.04 03:59:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Such a dropsuit is such a joke this whole thread should be deleted and OP be muted for 1 day to think about how ridiculous the request is.
I can only think about 'dissin' your brain... >.>
If you had any sense you'd understand what I'm suggesting...
Anyways - I seek the audience & consideration of the Dust Gods - NOT YOURS... -.- |
Thurak1
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:06:00 -
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I am sure the dev gods are having a really good deep belly laugh at this idea. |
P-A-R-A-D-O-X
A-S-S-A-S-S-I-N
11
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:31:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:I am sure the dev gods are having a really good deep belly laugh at this idea. They are simply being polite and not posting what they feel.
It's a Great\Decent idea...
Your brain apparently is not - hence that's where their laughter will be focused... |
Hunter Fencen
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
1
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:29:00 -
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Is this an actual joke? You do realize you're talking of a small moving tank right? Just saying its a great idea doesn't make it so. Forge guns with damage mods could be taking out tanks in one shot. Vehicles would become obsolete. Bye bye heavies those shotgun barstards just got even harder to hit. This is like saying: here's a nuke, lets make it even stronger and faster oh and don't forget harder to hit.
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RoundEy3
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:42:00 -
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This suit would only be complete and fashionable if the codpiece glowed with a multispectrum disco ball effect as you ran around the battle field in your self titled fantasy armor. |
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P-A-R-A-D-O-X
A-S-S-A-S-S-I-N
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:35:00 -
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Hunter Fencen wrote:Is this an actual joke? You do realize you're talking of a small moving tank right? Just saying its a great idea doesn't make it so. Forge guns with damage mods could be taking out tanks in one shot. Vehicles would become obsolete. Bye bye heavies those shotgun barstards just got even harder to hit. This is like saying: here's a nuke, lets make it even stronger and faster oh and don't forget harder to hit.
Hold on...
Keep in mind that these are militia grade suits with limited CPU\PG levels - you cannot simply dump any & every module on them because of the corresponding limitations... I just checked - you'd be able to get at best, a 10% damage increase & that's having used skills to boost CPU\PG plus you won't be able to use anything in either your low powered or grenade slot - so it doesn't make you 'super' or even better than the norm... So no reason to 'fuss' - there already are players capable of doing said damage & this boost is mainly for new players...
Again - GREAT idea... The fact that you doubt me, doesn't change that... =P |
Rachoi
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
86
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:44:00 -
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Dox, kindly pull your head out of your ass.
you do not need this suit, it is a poor, selfish, egotistical idea. i would rather be constructive with what needs fixing in the game now before you try making your own fantasy suit, because this idea is BAD, enough so that i would rather have Round's suit idea, atleast that one would be entertaining as hell |
P-A-R-A-D-O-X
A-S-S-A-S-S-I-N
11
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Posted - 2013.06.05 07:31:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:Dox, kindly pull your head out of your ass.
you do not need this suit, it is a poor, selfish, egotistical idea. i would rather be constructive with what needs fixing in the game now before you try making your own fantasy suit, because this idea is BAD, enough so that i would rather have Round's suit idea, atleast that one would be entertaining as hell
Egotistical?
Why? because I believe in myself? Because I believe in my GREAT idea? Because I want to name it after myself?
You can't honestly come up with an argument against my suit concept, so you start calling me names & run to someone else's idea...
& if you don't like me naming it after myself then you're the type of person that dislikes seeing people achieve & feel goos nout themselves...
If you can't see it's a GREAT idea, don't understand why I suggested it & still insist on fighting a mere idea which I have a right to suggest without being wronfully judged, then you're nothing but a stupid hater...
No one with you lack of intelligence can accurately perceive my character - you are too far down below my level of intellect - obviosly - & I don't give a damn what your dumb-hating-ass thinks - all y'all are good for is going hard at bring prople better than yourself down...
& this is why I hate interacting on forums - too many mofo idiots telling me crap 'just because' - so from now on, I'll post to the Dust Gods & only read DEV responses, because I'm SICK of you a-hole idiots(who can't deal with people being smarter\better\happier\etc than them)messing up my life with your messed up attidudes...
BTW - I am free to feel good anout myself, my abilities, my ideas etc, as much as I damn well want, & to name stuff pertaining to myself whatever I please(NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT) - if you want to put someone down, go put down your mother, for raising someone like you... -_-
Stay away from me - I have NO patience for the likes of you... |
RoundEy3
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:03:00 -
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RoundEy3 wrote:I'd like to put my drop suit idea up to while we're on the topic. It should be called LAZOR EY3Z...or something Basically you take an amarr dropsuit and LR fit and it changes the in battle graphics so anytime you fire the beam shoots out of your eyes and you appear to be unarmed! On top of that it does 300% damage and has a booster pack! Badass huh
Rachoi wrote:Dox, kindly pull your head out of your ass.
you do not need this suit, it is a poor, selfish, egotistical idea. i would rather be constructive with what needs fixing in the game now before you try making your own fantasy suit, because this idea is BAD, enough so that i would rather have Round's suit idea, atleast that one would be entertaining as hell
Because this thread has made me laugh, thank you:
In addition to my suit attributes: When flying around with the booster/jet pack I have figured the exhaust from the jet pack would do a constant 542.8 thermal dps to all in it's stream with a range of 30m.
Thus burning all below you whilst you fly about delivering lazor death from your EY3 in the sky. |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
75
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:58:00 -
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P-A-R-A-D-O-X wrote:Rachoi wrote:Dox, kindly pull your head out of your ass.
you do not need this suit, it is a poor, selfish, egotistical idea. i would rather be constructive with what needs fixing in the game now before you try making your own fantasy suit, because this idea is BAD, enough so that i would rather have Round's suit idea, atleast that one would be entertaining as hell Egotistical? Why? because I believe in myself? Because I believe in my GREAT idea? Because I want to name it after myself? You can't honestly come up with an argument against my suit concept, so you start calling me names & run to someone else's idea... & if you don't like me naming it after myself then you're the type of person that dislikes seeing people achieve & feel goos nout themselves... If you can't see it's a GREAT idea, don't understand why I suggested it & still insist on fighting a mere idea which I have a right to suggest without being wronfully judged, then you're nothing but a stupid hater... No one with you lack of intelligence can accurately perceive my character - you are too far down below my level of intellect - obviosly - & I don't give a damn what your dumb-hating-ass thinks - all y'all are good for is going hard at bring prople better than yourself down... & this is why I hate interacting on forums - too many mofo idiots telling me crap 'just because' - so from now on, I'll post to the Dust Gods & only read DEV responses, because I'm SICK of you a-hole idiots(who can't deal with people being smarter\better\happier\etc than them)messing up my life with your messed up attidudes... BTW - I am free to feel good anout myself, my abilities, my ideas etc, as much as I damn well want, & to name stuff pertaining to myself whatever I please(NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT) - if you want to put someone down, go put down your mother, for raising someone like you... -_- Stay away from me - I have NO patience for the likes of you...
You sound like an autistic 14 year old.
Summary:
- We are not putting you down, we are simply stating facts that your idea is bad.
- You will note I have done the maths about why this is a bad idea in my post.
- It would never be named after you anyway even if it was implemented.
- You're living in the clouds.
- You're not as intelligent as you think.
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