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C Saunders
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:03:00 -
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Fused locus grenades for isk. Without isk versions they are pay to win, with isk versions they will ruin close quarters. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1515
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:12:00 -
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Yes, clearly fused locus grenades will be the downfall of this otherwise amazing gameplay experience we call Dust 514. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:13:00 -
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I haven't seen these that often... are they for sale now? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1662
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:13:00 -
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You still have to hit people with them  |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1662
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I haven't seen these that often... are they for sale now?
Not yet, though they should have gone on sale 3 days ago, guess the QQ made CCP change their minds |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
495
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:15:00 -
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I think impact nades are pretty awesome, but CCP really should fit them into their own category so they compare to the other nades in terms of balance. As it is now, they are just as powerful as STD nades, so why even use STD nades if it costs the same?
STD should be 100-150 less splash then STD nades.
ADV should be 100-150 less splash than ADV nades
PRO should be 100-150 less splash then PRO nades.
This way, no matter what tier you choose, the non-impact nades will always be more powerful, and you give up that brute force for the convenience of impact detonation. |
C Saunders
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
234
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:17:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Yes, clearly fused locus grenades will be the downfall of this otherwise amazing gameplay experience we call Dust 514.
Believe it or not but some people do actually enjoy the game as it is at the moment. Bringing fused locus grenades back with the same damage as a normal locus grenade is stupidity in its finest. |
Drakeco Munseventy
Kikutech
Kleinrock Group
0
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:17:00 -
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use Militia Locus Grenade its the same damage and if you want the same CPU and PG lvl it up to use Locus Grenade
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1515
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:18:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:I think impact nades are pretty awesome, but CCP really should fit them into their own category so they compare to the other nades in terms of balance. As it is now, they are just as powerful as STD nades, so why even use STD nades if it costs the same?
STD should be 100-150 less splash then STD nades.
ADV should be 100-150 less splash than ADV nades
PRO should be 100-150 less splash then PRO nades.
This way, no matter what tier you choose, the non-impact nades will always be more powerful, and you give up that brute force for the convenience of impact detonation.
Come on, we all know that makes way too much sense to ever happen. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
334
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:21:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Fused locus grenades for isk. Without isk versions they are pay to win, with isk versions they will ruin close quarters.
So if you pay, you can ruin close quarters. If you don't pay, you can be ruined in close quarters by a "pay guy".
In the name of Thor, in what universe that's not "pay to win"? |
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C Saunders
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
234
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:23:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I haven't seen these that often... are they for sale now?
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Being a CPM I thought you of all people would notice whats on he store front. As it stands at the time I posted this message, fused locus grenades are pay to win. CCP said they would put and isk variant in and I'm warning of the game braking effects this will have if they keep the same damage they have at the moment. |
EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
53
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:25:00 -
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Dude.....if your good you wont die by them......I cant wait till they come out isk versions. Ill kick ass with them and ill rarely die by them.
Being that im not a mindless drone. Lavs dont run me over, TAR dont kill me, so im sure Contact grenades are just another thing noobs will cry about and us experienced gamers will adapt to. |
C Saunders
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
234
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:29:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote:Dude.....if your good you wont die by them......I cant wait till they come out isk versions. Ill kick ass with them and ill rarely die by them.
Being that im not a mindless drone. Lavs dont run me over, TAR dont kill me, so im sure Contact grenades are just another thing noobs will cry about and us experienced gamers will adapt to.
Famous Last words... |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
106
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:18:00 -
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I prefer a nasty Flux in infantry warfare, a lot funnier. Wheres you shields now calamari ************ |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
202
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:19:00 -
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I have never ran across a Fused grenade. I don't understand why people have always been Doom and Gloom in regards to them. |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:23:00 -
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yea frankly introducing them with out a way to trade them for isk is a horrible Idea |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
705
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:25:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:I think impact nades are pretty awesome, but CCP really should fit them into their own category so they compare to the other nades in terms of balance. As it is now, they are just as powerful as STD nades, so why even use STD nades if it costs the same?
STD should be 100-150 less splash then STD nades.
ADV should be 100-150 less splash than ADV nades
PRO should be 100-150 less splash then PRO nades.
This way, no matter what tier you choose, the non-impact nades will always be more powerful, and you give up that brute force for the convenience of impact detonation.
Not enough.
Fused Nades should have a 99.9% chance of blowing up in the user's hands.
(Being realistic now, it should have a smaller blast radius, enough so Scouts can jump over them or around them) |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
705
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:26:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I have never ran across a Fused grenade. I don't understand why people have always been Doom and Gloom in regards to them.
Scout + Fused Locus = Very Dead Scout |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
283
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:30:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Yes, clearly fused locus grenades will be the downfall of this otherwise amazing gameplay experience we call Dust 514. Believe it or not but some people do actually enjoy the game as it is at the moment. Bringing fused locus grenades back with the same damage as a normal locus grenade is stupidity in its finest.
You know, you sure are making me more and more curious.
You like Uprising more than Chromosome and now you're calling out against FLG.
I am really really curious what you regularly fit (I'm really starting to think it is logistically tactical). |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
705
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:33:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:C Saunders wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Yes, clearly fused locus grenades will be the downfall of this otherwise amazing gameplay experience we call Dust 514. Believe it or not but some people do actually enjoy the game as it is at the moment. Bringing fused locus grenades back with the same damage as a normal locus grenade is stupidity in its finest. You know, you sure are making me more and more curious. You like Uprising more than Chromosome and now you're calling out against FLG. I am really really curious what you regularly fit (I'm really starting to think it is logistically tactical).
I actually think he fits MDs, which are the complete opposite of TACs in terms of balance. |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
284
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:34:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:C Saunders wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Yes, clearly fused locus grenades will be the downfall of this otherwise amazing gameplay experience we call Dust 514. Believe it or not but some people do actually enjoy the game as it is at the moment. Bringing fused locus grenades back with the same damage as a normal locus grenade is stupidity in its finest. You know, you sure are making me more and more curious. You like Uprising more than Chromosome and now you're calling out against FLG. I am really really curious what you regularly fit (I'm really starting to think it is logistically tactical). I actually think he fits MDs, which are the complete opposite of TACs in terms of balance.
That wouldn't strike me as someone who was happy with Uprising. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers
EoN.
165
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:49:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:I think impact nades are pretty awesome, but CCP really should fit them into their own category so they compare to the other nades in terms of balance. As it is now, they are just as powerful as STD nades, so why even use STD nades if it costs the same?
STD should be 100-150 less splash then STD nades.
ADV should be 100-150 less splash than ADV nades
PRO should be 100-150 less splash then PRO nades.
This way, no matter what tier you choose, the non-impact nades will always be more powerful, and you give up that brute force for the convenience of impact detonation.
Can this man get some good old fashioned upvotes for visibility!? |
Dust HaHakoke
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2013.06.02 02:38:00 -
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the fused locus explodes on contact meaning if you miss you miss in close quarters it will be deadly but there are so many things it can get caught on. The regular locus is timed so there is the possibility it will bounce and still get your guy. |
C Saunders
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
235
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Posted - 2013.06.02 14:01:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:C Saunders wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Yes, clearly fused locus grenades will be the downfall of this otherwise amazing gameplay experience we call Dust 514. Believe it or not but some people do actually enjoy the game as it is at the moment. Bringing fused locus grenades back with the same damage as a normal locus grenade is stupidity in its finest. You know, you sure are making me more and more curious. You like Uprising more than Chromosome and now you're calling out against FLG. I am really really curious what you regularly fit (I'm really starting to think it is logistically tactical). I actually think he fits MDs, which are the complete opposite of TACs in terms of balance. That wouldn't strike me as someone who was happy with Uprising.
I actually do run a MD on a minmatar advanced logi suit. The mass driver was changed so its less powerful but all it takes is a small adjustment in aim. I can still go 20-0 with it but it requires a much larger amount of skill than it did. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens
EoN.
39
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Posted - 2013.06.02 14:14:00 -
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Dust is dyingGäó |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
206
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Posted - 2013.06.02 14:17:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Fused locus grenades for isk. Without isk versions they are pay to win, with isk versions they will ruin close quarters.
Tsk, Tsk, sanders. How many fused you have? 200+ Silly cheeky monkey.. |
C Saunders
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
235
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Posted - 2013.06.02 15:01:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:C Saunders wrote:Fused locus grenades for isk. Without isk versions they are pay to win, with isk versions they will ruin close quarters. Tsk, Tsk, sanders. How many fused you have? 200+ Silly cheeky monkey..
If I was sanders I would own a huge chain of fast food stores. :P |
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