DUST Search - making proto gear worth wearing

Cinnamon267 wrote:

Emptying an entire clip into you totals around 1440 damage with the militia AR if every bullet hits. Even more so if he scores some headshots. It should absolutely kill you. To have the attitude of "bt, i haev teh proto gear!" is dumb. Get out of that mindset. You aren't supposed to be invincible.

Reducing the damage militia gear does to higher tier dropsuits is pure insanity. No way in hell is that fair. That encourages more proto stomping. We have enough people proto stomping. Even some idiots roaming with officer weapons in pub matches. Making it, almost, impossible for militia gear to do anything is a great way of turning even more people away. Not what this game needs.

Your problem if you don't like being killed by militia stuff. Just because it's militia doesn't mean you should be invincible against it. And, if you're dying to it, it sounds as if that person is a better player than you. Face it. If he is scoring heatshots, you are going to fall regardless of the weapon he is using and the dropsuit you are using. To penalize them because you were bested, is incredibly childish.

Hearing this talk makes me support the proto ban in pub matches more and more.
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Aeon Amadi wrote:

Was just in a match with you and you had first. Can't be doing that badly.

Of course he isn't. He is proto stomping and getting upset when a player with lesser gear gets him and he then wants to penalize them. Ugh. I can't believe I just read this.

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THE WOOKIE 72 Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 0	Posted - 2013.06.01 07:38:00 - [1] - Quote this is my idea may not be liked by new players or by ppl that like to save isk by running militia militia weapons should do normal damage to militia 5% less damage to standard 15% less damage to advance and 45% less damage to proto suits (maybe to extreme?) this of course means that each weapon does normal damage to suits of its same level but also weapons get a damage boosts to suits of a lower level at the same rate it also balances the cost of proto suits to the effectiveness heavies (since their so slow) should have an additional resistance to any small arms weapons either that or id advise against skilling into proto suits heavies at least because my proto heavy gets destroyed by militia assault rifles
Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi Rautaleijona Gentlemen's Agreement 43	Posted - 2013.06.01 07:42:00 - [2] - Quote No
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 187	Posted - 2013.06.01 07:43:00 - [3] - Quote If your proto heavy is being destroyed by militia assault rifles, something is wrong with your style of play. Stay in CQC areas, close down your lanes, defend instead of attack, use flux grenades, and if possible stay within an arms reach of a supply depot of logibro.
Adam Average D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 20	Posted - 2013.06.01 07:51:00 - [4] - Quote Logibros save heavy lives for personal motive. If you stick near em, you are massive hunk of free WP, via guardian and triage, they just love being around the big guys, so let them know you are there to soak up all those nasty assault rifle bullets for them, and they, like any logibro should, will repay you with repper and nano hives.
THE WOOKIE 72 Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 0	Posted - 2013.06.01 07:52:00 - [5] - Quote I play with the wrong logi's then
EXASTRA INVICTAS Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 47	Posted - 2013.06.01 08:02:00 - [6] - Quote THE WOOKIE 72 wrote: I play with the wrong logi's then Hahahaha. That's unfortunate, but what they've talked about is true. Get some good armor going on your heavy and stay true to your role. You're not Rambo, you're a human sized tank. Soak up bullets, unleash bullets. Don't go out into open areas, stick to more confined areas where your rain bullets can easily mow down anyone trying to trespass. A logistics player should notice this and stick around to assist. It's good to make friends. Edit: Definite NO to the original proposed idea, though. Sorry.
THE WOOKIE 72 Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 0	Posted - 2013.06.01 08:04:00 - [7] - Quote :o u got me off track this isn't about heavies alone but about all suits and weapons not just one type :D makes the game where you have something to look forward to instead of wondering whos gonna kill my proto gear with militia stuff everytim u join a game alone
THE WOOKIE 72 Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 0	Posted - 2013.06.01 08:08:00 - [8] - Quote I have complex armor reps and two complex armor plates on my heavy totaling 425 shield 739 armor boundless hmg as weapon if me and a guy using militia are alone in a secluded area just out of my range even when he catches me off guard he should not be able to kill me in one clip even with complex damage mod and ar proficiency to lvl 5
Adam Average D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 22	Posted - 2013.06.01 08:09:00 - [9] - Quote I want minmatar heavy suits, or heavy suits spec'd for fast movement. The day i can see a fast moving heavy, is the day i smile. P.s. fast moving heavies is terrible, but please tell me i'm not the only one who'd get a chuckle at seeing them move fast.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 187	Posted - 2013.06.01 08:11:00 - [10] - Quote THE WOOKIE 72 wrote: I play with the wrong logi's then Join the logi/heavy chat channel. It's for logis and heavies to team up. Just, uhhh... make sure you're into tantric repair and... erotic nanocircuitry

THE WOOKIE 72 Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 0	Posted - 2013.06.01 08:13:00 - [11] - Quote erotic nanocircuitry
Adam Average D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 22	Posted - 2013.06.01 08:15:00 - [12] - Quote THE WOOKIE 72 wrote: erotic nanocircuitry The injector is a very sensual piece of equipment, while nano hives are bundles of love for those big guys we truly do love.
THE WOOKIE 72 Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 0	Posted - 2013.06.01 08:16:00 - [13] - Quote wont let me in
THE WOOKIE 72 Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 0	Posted - 2013.06.01 08:19:00 - [14] - Quote but yeah help me out on this who gets tired of being killed by militia stuff just because theres more of them than you
Adam Average D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 22	Posted - 2013.06.01 08:29:00 - [15] - Quote THE WOOKIE 72 wrote: but yeah help me out on this who gets tired of being killed by militia stuff just because theres more of them than you Don't use it, if you aren't prepared to lose it. There may be more of them using militia stuff, but your gear shouldn't stomp them, it should be your skill that out does them, your better gear should just prevent less deaths.
THE WOOKIE 72 Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 0	Posted - 2013.06.01 08:39:00 - [16] - Quote nah bud I think that's making it like call of duty mw3 nd black ops this game requires skill yes but u also need skillpoints and time in the game to get the better stuff or else u can just join the game and pick up any gun and murder people with it like in cod once u know the maps uve got the upper hand in cod once u know the maps in dust ur 1/4 the way there u next need to build ur basic skill movement aim in game controls next spend time in the game build ur skill points then u rely upon ur squad mates and their gear to help u in battle
THE WOOKIE 72 Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 0	Posted - 2013.06.01 08:40:00 - [17] - Quote im prepared to lose it btw just saying its not worth it its just an expensive way to die
Acturus Galaxy Horizons' Edge 51	Posted - 2013.06.01 09:56:00 - [18] - Quote EXASTRA INVICTAS wrote: THE WOOKIE 72 wrote: I play with the wrong logi's then Hahahaha. That's unfortunate, but what they've talked about is true. Get some good armor going on your heavy and stay true to your role. You're not Rambo, you're a human sized tank. Soak up bullets, unleash bullets. Don't go out into open areas, stick to more confined areas where your rain bullets can easily mow down anyone trying to trespass. A logistics player should notice this and stick around to assist. It's good to make friends. Edit: Definite NO to the original proposed idea, though. Sorry. I agree, do not run alone into the middle of the red dots if you wish the logi to stay at your side. I am talking from personal experience having followed heavies out into the open or right into the red dot blop only to get us both killed. For some reason I get curious to see what the heavy rambo is up to going off alone and I sometime follow you even if I know it would mean my death Stay with the group and I will keep you repaired and supplied with ammo.
Aeon Amadi Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1428	Posted - 2013.06.01 09:58:00 - [19] - Quote Was just in a match with you and you had first. Can't be doing that badly.
Cinnamon267 The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 72	Posted - 2013.06.01 10:06:00 - [20] - Quote Emptying an entire clip into you totals around 1440 damage with the militia AR if every bullet hits. Even more so if he scores some headshots. It should absolutely kill you. To have the attitude of "bt, i haev teh proto gear!" is dumb. Get out of that mindset. You aren't supposed to be invincible. Reducing the damage militia gear does to higher tier dropsuits is pure insanity. No way in hell is that fair. That encourages more proto stomping. We have enough people proto stomping. Even some idiots roaming with officer weapons in pub matches. Making it, almost, impossible for militia gear to do anything is a great way of turning even more people away. Not what this game needs. THE WOOKIE 72 wrote: but yeah help me out on this who gets tired of being killed by militia stuff just because theres more of them than you Your problem if you don't like being killed by militia stuff. Just because it's militia doesn't mean you should be invincible against it. And, if you're dying to it, it sounds as if that person is a better player than you. Face it. If he is scoring heatshots, you are going to fall regardless of the weapon he is using and the dropsuit you are using. To penalize them because you were bested, is incredibly childish. Hearing this talk makes me support the proto ban in pub matches more and more. Aeon Amadi wrote: Was just in a match with you and you had first. Can't be doing that badly. Of course he isn't. He is proto stomping and getting upset when a player with lesser gear gets him and he then wants to penalize them. Ugh. I can't believe I just read this.

Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 191	Posted - 2013.06.01 10:41:00 - [21] - Quote Adam Average wrote: THE WOOKIE 72 wrote: erotic nanocircuitry The injector is a very sensual piece of equipment, while nano hives are bundles of love for those big guys we truly do love. Yeah, us logibros are notorious chubby chasers.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens 89	Posted - 2013.06.01 11:49:00 - [22] - Quote THE WOOKIE 72 wrote: this is my idea may not be liked by new players or by ppl that like to save isk by running militia militia weapons should do normal damage to militia 5% less damage to standard 15% less damage to advance and 45% less damage to proto suits (maybe to extreme?) this of course means that each weapon does normal damage to suits of its same level but also weapons get a damage boosts to suits of a lower level at the same rate it also balances the cost of proto suits to the effectiveness heavies (since their so slow) should have an additional resistance to any small arms weapons either that or id advise against skilling into proto suits heavies at least because my proto heavy gets destroyed by militia assault rifles Terrible idea, its hard enough for a nooby to kill a Proto with lots of EHP.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens 89	Posted - 2013.06.01 11:50:00 - [23] - Quote Cosgar's Alt wrote: Adam Average wrote: THE WOOKIE 72 wrote: erotic nanocircuitry The injector is a very sensual piece of equipment, while nano hives are bundles of love for those big guys we truly do love. Yeah, us logibros are notorious chubby chasers. Yep, if your a heavy and I see you on the field I will follow you till you die, then resurrect you and follow you again
THE WOOKIE 72 Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 0	Posted - 2013.06.02 09:30:00 - [24] - Quote Cinnamon267 wrote: Emptying an entire clip into you totals around 1440 damage with the militia AR if every bullet hits. Even more so if he scores some headshots. It should absolutely kill you. To have the attitude of "bt, i haev teh proto gear!" is dumb. Get out of that mindset. You aren't supposed to be invincible. Reducing the damage militia gear does to higher tier dropsuits is pure insanity. No way in hell is that fair. That encourages more proto stomping. We have enough people proto stomping. Even some idiots roaming with officer weapons in pub matches. Making it, almost, impossible for militia gear to do anything is a great way of turning even more people away. Not what this game needs. Your problem if you don't like being killed by militia stuff. Just because it's militia doesn't mean you should be invincible against it. And, if you're dying to it, it sounds as if that person is a better player than you. Face it. If he is scoring heatshots, you are going to fall regardless of the weapon he is using and the dropsuit you are using. To penalize them because you were bested, is incredibly childish. Hearing this talk makes me support the proto ban in pub matches more and more. I Aeon Amadi wrote: Was just in a match with you and you had first. Can't be doing that badly. Of course he isn't. He is proto stomping and getting upset when a player with lesser gear gets him and he then wants to penalize them. Ugh. I can't believe I just read this. I ran my standard stuff all that night no proto so no proto stump, Im willing to put money on it that u don't have many skill points but if u do u just like to run militia to save isk with ur proficiency so u don't want ur main revenue to get nerf'd that's ok im not gonna cry just sayin proto suits in general are no where near as strong as the should be. but there is a thing called specialization I did it all 8.1 mil of my skill points into heavy dropsuits so yeah I get kinda pissed when I go up against a militia suit and he can back pedal faster than I can run to him. I have a 4.60 sprint speed after 1 complex armor plate that assault suit walks at 5.00 I think idk I don't use that stuff anyway I have two complex armor plates on my suit so yeah im slow and in the open hes out of my range the only thing that should b banned from pub matches in officer weapons and black ops tanks when they get brought back don't nerf tanks make restrictions. and don't listen to that guy that cried cos he could kill a tank with his assault rifle that's stupid protos should have resistances that's what makes them better


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