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Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:02:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Abron Garr wrote:Please locate my posts where I've been an "ignorant hater". You jumped in the thread, put your foot in your mouth and now want to take the high road. It doesn't work that way.
In case you haven't noticed, it's only a few members of the CPM that are being "disrespected". Maybe you should ask yourself why that is. I'm not trying to take the high road at all... and obviously I'm speaking generally. And, I'm sure you noticed, this issue came about due to a thread attacking a particular CPM. While I had not been impressed by that member as a representative I sure as hell think a proper way to voice your opinion would be to cast a vote for someone else when the chance arrives.
I agree, that thread was despicable and I recommend reporting the thread. That's all you can do until the GMs wake up from whatever Chinese food induced coma they may or may not be in. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
433
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:05:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:I've been reading his post history as of late. Just a bunch of one liners and smug remarks that have little to no relevance on a given topic's context. Nothing but a troll trying to play internet tough guy disregard.
Bah, I'm disappointed, the search tool shows quoted text and makes is look like mine... I'll only stand behind my own tripe. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
151
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:07:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:I've been reading his post history as of late. Just a bunch of one liners and smug remarks that have little to no relevance on a given topic's context. Nothing but a troll trying to play internet tough guy disregard. Bah, I'm disappointed, the search tool shows quoted text and makes is look like mine... I'll only stand behind my own tripe. Tripe, that's exactly what it is. Save the barbed quips for 4 Chan and let the adults talk. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
435
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:09:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:Tripe, that's exactly what it is. Save the barbed quips for 4 Chan and let the adults talk.
Who's the internet tough guy now? |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
151
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:12:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:Tripe, that's exactly what it is. Save the barbed quips for 4 Chan and let the adults talk. Who's the internet tough guy now? God forbid I sink to your level, but until you decide to start adding some input on a given topic's context, the shoe fits. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
435
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:18:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote: God forbid I sink to your level, but until you decide to start adding some input on a given topic's context, the shoe fits.
Yes, I'm here trying to defend the idea that someone who is no longer truly anonymous shouldn't be subjected to the same attacks that are applied to anonymous people. If you can't see that as input -- perhaps because you disagree with my opinion -- then you are myopic. Either way, my argument is precisely aligned with the topic of the thread.
Perhaps you should dig a little deeper in your sad little search investigation? |
Vethosis
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
64
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:19:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:Ladies and Trolls, please respect the CPM members. Without them, there is almost no direct connection with CCP. They are here to help us and to present ideas and feedback to CCP for us so far as I know. You have problems with the CPM? Report it, but don't bash them in the forum. Accusing them of lack of information or having some kind of advantage in the game will not get you points. They are people like us. How would you feel if you were selected as a CPM in the council and people find flaws in you and bashed you terribly? Treat others the same way you want them to treat you.
no they're not my parents. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1636
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:24:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Abron Garr wrote:In other words you felt the need to white knight even though you don't even meet your own criteria. I didn't create the thread... just suggested there are better ways to criticize. Perhaps you should direct your statement at someone who actually pulled a "white knight" around here. Your statement about respect being earned is just an excuse to treat someone like crap. If someone doesn't earn respect you don't have to give it (duh)... but that doesn't force you to be an ignorant hater, does it? Seriously, did I miss the memo, is this kindergarten? Oh, right, I forgot, most of you don't get out of mommy's basement do you? My bad. Talks about treating others with respect |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
435
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:31:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Talks about treating others with respect
Feel free to pick on me... I'm anonymous... I don't mind. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:33:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote: God forbid I sink to your level, but until you decide to start adding some input on a given topic's context, the shoe fits.
Yes, I'm here trying to defend the idea that someone who is no longer truly anonymous shouldn't be subjected to the same attacks that are applied to anonymous people. If you can't see that as input -- perhaps because you disagree with my opinion -- then you are myopic. Either way, my argument is precisely aligned with the topic of the thread. Perhaps you should dig a little deeper in your sad little search investigation? I could easily formulate a verdict after the first 2 pages. If you're some kind of boyscout after that, it doesn't matter. The first impression is the lasting one. You're going to have to prove otherwise for me not to regard you as nothing but a tireless rebutter seeking attention. Also, the quote below doesn't help your case either:
Sloth9230 wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Abron Garr wrote:In other words you felt the need to white knight even though you don't even meet your own criteria. I didn't create the thread... just suggested there are better ways to criticize. Perhaps you should direct your statement at someone who actually pulled a "white knight" around here. Your statement about respect being earned is just an excuse to treat someone like crap. If someone doesn't earn respect you don't have to give it (duh)... but that doesn't force you to be an ignorant hater, does it? Seriously, did I miss the memo, is this kindergarten? Oh, right, I forgot, most of you don't get out of mommy's basement do you? My bad. Talks about treating others with respect
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1640
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:36:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Talks about treating others with respect Feel free to pick on me... I'm anonymous... I don't mind. And? Apparently you're perfectly fine with calling your peers losers, why not the CPM members? Are they not your peers? Treating them better than you treat others just because they're in a position of power just makes you look like an ass kisser, nothing else.
Why do CPM members deserve to get treated with respect if your peers don't? |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
435
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:44:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:And? Apparently you're perfectly fine with calling your peers losers, why not the CPM members? Are they not your peers? Treating them better than you treat others just because they're in a position of power just makes you look like an ass kisser, nothing else.
Hey, it's fun to argue back and forth in the forums... plenty of people do this all the time.
Usually, it's anonymous and people can't imagine that the person saying something has any real knowledge about the target on the other end. That keeps it from being overly personal. Additionally, many (but not all) of my statements are generalized by saying things like "most of you ... insult here". Also, much of the time it's a troll vs troll situation.
Folks who have lost some degree of anonymity need to be treated differently. Now, if you look closely I've never stuck up for their record -- which is what should be the issue for folks in a CPM position. I generally suggest that people should try to find a constructive way to deal with CCP and CPM members.
That's hardly kissing ass. Oh, wait, that was an insult. Oh boo hoo -- I'm going to cry on the forums for a week now. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1641
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:57:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:
That's hardly kissing ass. Oh, wait, that was an insult. Oh boo hoo -- I'm going to cry on the forums for a week now.
I'd give you a tissue, but my mother failed to restock my supply this week |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
436
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:58:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Crash Monster wrote:
That's hardly kissing ass. Oh, wait, that was an insult. Oh boo hoo -- I'm going to cry on the forums for a week now.
I'd give you a tissue, but my mother failed to restock my supply this week
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Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
164
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Posted - 2013.06.01 02:12:00 -
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Geeze, I got so sidetracked by trolls that I got off topic:
Honestly, that did get a laugh out of me. People need to stop white knighting a bit and lighten up. But that thread should be in the locker room instead of GD. |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
159
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Posted - 2013.06.01 02:34:00 -
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I respect.... most of them. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1812
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Posted - 2013.06.01 03:20:00 -
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I hope I get my respec when i get on my dust |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
313
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Posted - 2013.06.01 04:09:00 -
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Some have earned my respect/not actually done anything negative(or, anything at all) to my knowledge. The others are... well frankly, they will be receiving votes against them from everyone I can rally.
I reserve my right to hate people semi-anonymously on the internet. You a white knight? Draw your blade and test my underhanded techniques.
I don't live in a basement, I haven't even spoken to my mother in a year, and I've come to terms that every 14 year old on the planet has committed every type of sexual act imaginable with her.
Come at me, yo! |
grreen mctree
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.06.01 04:12:00 -
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Fk you op and a fk you cpm |
Makyre Vahliha
GamersForChrist
170
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Posted - 2013.06.01 05:16:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:Geeze, I got so sidetracked by trolls that I got off topic: Honestly, that did get a laugh out of me. People need to stop white knighting a bit and lighten up.
Wow! White Knighting is an AWESOME term, though that picture is humorous. I'm no saint, but I believe in standing up for others the best I can.
Cosgar's Alt wrote: But that thread should be in the locker room instead of GD.
As all the trollings should be too, which is why this thread was brought up in the general discussion.
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Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
181
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Posted - 2013.06.01 05:28:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:Geeze, I got so sidetracked by trolls that I got off topic: Honestly, that did get a laugh out of me. People need to stop white knighting a bit and lighten up. Wow! White Knighting is an AWESOME term, though that picture is humorous. I'm no saint, but I believe in standing up for others the best I can. Cosgar's Alt wrote: But that thread should be in the locker room instead of GD. As all the trollings should be too, which is why this thread was brought up in the general discussion. I hope you don't get the idea that I disagree with you either. Joking around on at someone's expense over the internet is perfectly fine as long as the butt of that joke has skin thick enough to handle it. I haven't seen Jenza voice her discontent to our ribbings quite yet, so I assume it's fair play. We all may have our issues with CPM members, but without them this game would be in worse shape than it is now.
Oh and on the topic of white knighting, I hope you're not just doing this to get into those hemp pants. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
313
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Posted - 2013.06.01 05:37:00 -
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I believe in standing up for those who can't stand up for themselves, or stepping into the fight when it goes too far. the CPM has the exact same tools at their disposal, and it has not gotten bad enough to call for someone to put the brakes on.
So go on, use your anger, your hate, and everything you've got to make them look bad. CCP Won't do anything for the next year as a minimum(probably later) since... well, they seemingly don't do deadlines which leads to slipshod work shoved out at a lazy pace(one or the other is... acceptable, not grand, not incredible. but both? that is not what a AAA company does)
I'll get back in 10 years, we should have just barely gotten all the stuff we were promised. which means for the next year afterward, it will all be blatantly OP/ the only things in the game that are balanced at the time. |
Makyre Vahliha
GamersForChrist
171
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Posted - 2013.06.01 06:06:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:Geeze, I got so sidetracked by trolls that I got off topic: Honestly, that did get a laugh out of me. People need to stop white knighting a bit and lighten up. Wow! White Knighting is an AWESOME term, though that picture is humorous. I'm no saint, but I believe in standing up for others the best I can. Cosgar's Alt wrote: But that thread should be in the locker room instead of GD. As all the trollings should be too, which is why this thread was brought up in the general discussion. [quote=Cosgar's Alt]I hope you don't get the idea that I disagree with you either. Joking around on at someone's expense over the internet is perfectly fine as long as the butt of that joke has skin thick enough to handle it. I haven't seen Jenza voice her discontent to our ribbings quite yet, so I assume it's fair play. We all may have our issues with CPM members, but without them this game would be in worse shape than it is now. Oh and on the topic of white knighting, I hope you're not just doing this to get into those hemp pants.
It's highly unlikely she would since she already faced cyberbullying and to come out now would increase the personal attacks against her. Victims that are defensive verbally because of a past circumstance will get attacked even more. I don't think I've ever seen her voice her discontent for anything as far as I know. I barely know her and I have never seen her picture or even a picture of her pants or anything like that, but I've seen a lot of vicious attacks in the forum against her and that's how I got to know her a little bit because of that. But I don't think she should be judged because of what she wears because there is an increase in unique fashions nowadays. I'm a geek and nerd by heart and I don't care what anyone wears. But anyway, it's not just about Jenza, it's all CPM members included. Notice that I didn't write, "Please Respect All Ladies." Iron Wolf Saber and Jenza were both attacked in separated threads earlier today, which is why I had to pull a white knight. I wish I could stand up for everyone and I do see myself as a white knight, but the CPM are like the pillars between the community and CCP right now.
By the way, I just looked up White Knighting online and I understand what you mean by that now. It's a new term for me.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
444
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Posted - 2013.06.01 10:31:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:Victims that are defensive verbally because of a past circumstance will get attacked even more.
I'm aware of at least one well over line thread (and I don't mean yesterday's). We should not rally around people who create threads that lead towards an environment of bullying or hate.
It's not cool.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
201
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Posted - 2013.06.01 10:59:00 -
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There is a reason why I don't join a corp in this game. A reason why tho sometimes cool, PC battles means **** to me. (its corp battle.) And that reason is that I don't care about the eve lore.
I'll continue to state that eve is as slow as water is to boil. But what you won't see from me is me making a damn thread attacking "cosgnar" cause he likes eve. I'm just using him as an example, cause we may not see eye to eye on things, there are some things we agree on.
same with cpm. argue and say what you will about their pov. but to go out of your way to try and attack them on a personal level.. well then prepare your anus.
This isn't the 4chan academy kiddies. where little grey hats pine to be black hats but are too chicken **** to do anythiing. I've known a few black hats, (tho now white. since they got jobs at Vipre) and even they view themselves too cool to stoop to pick on someone. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
313
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Posted - 2013.06.01 14:49:00 -
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yeah, heres the thing about hats... I don't wear one. at least, not by your definition(I do have one very nice hat that I wear for special occasions). grey,black,white,blue,neon pink, none of those apply. I hate on people because I don't agree with them, and therefore, they are wrong.
I care not for hemp pants(because anyone who wears those does not bathe regularly enough to be up to my standards) nor would I test the wolf's saber(not into guys, sorry) I hate on them because they were once pillars of the community(except jenza, never really understood the appeal there, maybe it's just that she's the only actual girl playing dust? don't think I even saw her post until she was in CPM) and they have now fallen to exploiting cowardly mechanics for personal gain while trying to hide the evidence, and failing that, saying that it is fully acceptable.
they want respect, they have to earn it, or at least not act like being on CPM actually means anything at this point. they got the shine of false power in their eyes, and now seem to think they are above the common mercs.
open the hate floodgates. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
447
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Posted - 2013.06.01 15:11:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:...pile of crap...
Sure, lambaste them for doing a crappy job... nobody will complain about that.
Funny thing about hate, or anger, is that if you always let that drive you you'll find that you really don't have much else to offer. Congrats on advocating the lifestyle. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
313
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:14:00 -
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And? My anger lets me shatter the walls between me and what must be protected, my vengeance gives me the patience to wait for my venomous words to take hold in an enemy's soul, my hate gives me the way to determine that which I love.
If you do a bad job, you get removed, you fail your classes, you may kill someone on the operating table. I do not support shoddy work.
you see vices, I see virtues. |
Spaceman-Rob
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
82
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:23:00 -
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Most on here can't even show ccp any respect, so I don't imagine cpm will get much either. |
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