DUST Search - Again with my pointless 1 man crusade for the Amarr logi

BL4CKST4R wrote:

Zahle Undt wrote:

So I've been whining about this off and on for a bit and will continue to do so because I'm that sort of idiot. Anyway...

Proto Amarr medium frame 70 PG base

Proto Amarr logistics 66 PG base, Total module slots 6

Proto Gallente logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 8

Proto Minmatar logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 8

Proto Caldari logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 9

WTF CCP you give the medium frame suit more PG than the proto logistics, was the design teams thought when doing this screw the Amarr their logis don't get equipment? I mean the frame has more than the logi suit!

You thought that having the PG to equip decent equipment, a light weapon, and a side arm with a whopping 3 highs and 3 lows was going to be OP, but that having a Caldari logi that can stack 5 complex shield extenders (or damage mods), run proto of the kill everythng at every range gun (I.E. Tac AR), run 4 shield regulators, armor reppers, or plates if they wanted to, and have all the PG and CPU in the world is OK?

The Amarr logi suit is already paying for it's sidearm by having less module slots than all the other logi suits by 2.

Please, please, please, increase the PG on the dang suit to near the levels of all the others, I've given up on 78 like all my other logi-bros get, how about we split the difference and go 72?

Maybe then it won't be me and about 5 other stubborn fools who play this game trying to be Amarr and logi

Amarr needs 1 extra slot high or low, they need more CPU/PG, and a bit higher base EHP

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Zahle Undt The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 133	Posted - 2013.05.31 22:46:00 - [1] - Quote So I've been whining about this off and on for a bit and will continue to do so because I'm that sort of idiot. Anyway... Proto Amarr medium frame 70 PG base Proto Amarr logistics 66 PG base, Total module slots 6 Proto Gallente logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 8 Proto Minmatar logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 8 Proto Caldari logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 9 WTF CCP you give the medium frame suit more PG than the proto logistics, was the design teams thought when doing this screw the Amarr their logis don't get equipment? I mean the frame has more than the logi suit! You thought that having the PG to equip decent equipment, a light weapon, and a side arm with a whopping 3 highs and 3 lows was going to be OP, but that having a Caldari logi that can stack 5 complex shield extenders (or damage mods), run proto of the kill everythng at every range gun (I.E. Tac AR), run 4 shield regulators, armor reppers, or plates if they wanted to, and have all the PG and CPU in the world is OK? The Amarr logi suit is already paying for it's sidearm by having less module slots than all the other logi suits by 2. Please, please, please, increase the PG on the dang suit to near the levels of all the others, I've given up on 78 like all my other logi-bros get, how about we split the difference and go 72? Maybe then it won't be me and about 5 other stubborn fools who play this game trying to be Amarr and logi
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 339	Posted - 2013.05.31 22:48:00 - [2] - Quote I really dislike the slower speed. .3 may not seem like much, but it makes a difference.
ReGnYuM Imperfects Negative-Feedback 61	Posted - 2013.05.31 22:49:00 - [3] - Quote Amarrians do not support. We CONQUER.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1306	Posted - 2013.05.31 22:52:00 - [4] - Quote you're right, but nothing is going to change, not for a while at least.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 137	Posted - 2013.05.31 22:52:00 - [5] - Quote Ahem CCP Remnant wrote: Sorry about the radio silence. We're definitely reading as much as we can and anything we miss the community guys quickly point out, so rest assured your concerns do get through to us. I'm responsible for both weapon and dropsuit balance so I apologize if I haven't responded as quickly as you'd like. We're taking a look at a few of the roles and will address some of the concerns with them in the not too distant future. Thanks for the excellent feedback. It's always a pleasure to read well-explained posts.
Zahle Undt The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 133	Posted - 2013.05.31 23:04:00 - [6] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Amarrians do not support. We CONQUER. How else will our brave Sentinels mow down the infidels of the other races without logistical support to keep them fighting and supplied with ammunition, surely you don't mean to trust the slaves at your back?
Zahle Undt The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 133	Posted - 2013.05.31 23:05:00 - [7] - Quote Cosgar's Alt wrote: Ahem CCP Remnant wrote: Sorry about the radio silence. We're definitely reading as much as we can and anything we miss the community guys quickly point out, so rest assured your concerns do get through to us. I'm responsible for both weapon and dropsuit balance so I apologize if I haven't responded as quickly as you'd like. We're taking a look at a few of the roles and will address some of the concerns with them in the not too distant future. Thanks for the excellent feedback. It's always a pleasure to read well-explained posts. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction, you good sir are a gentleman and a scholar
Green Living PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 335	Posted - 2013.05.31 23:12:00 - [8] - Quote I went Amarr assault with Laser Rifle with my respec, call me a glutton for punishment.
Cass Barr Red Star. EoN. 108	Posted - 2013.05.31 23:34:00 - [9] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Amarrians do not support. We CONQUER. How else will our brave Sentinels mow down the infidels of the other races without logistical support to keep them fighting and supplied with ammunition, surely you don't mean to trust the slaves at your back? Logis aren't slaves?!
Centurion mkII SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 70	Posted - 2013.05.31 23:37:00 - [10] - Quote This was a big mess up on ccps part. Three equipment slots wan= less pg ? Ccp don't give me crap like we didn't want everyone to go logi instead of assault. Everywhere else people got more slots and fitting.

Cass Barr Red Star. EoN. 108	Posted - 2013.05.31 23:37:00 - [11] - Quote You should probably include equipment in your Total slots numbers. In which case I believe it would be 9,12,12,12. Doesn't really change the main point though. Yes the medium frame having better output than the logi is just lolwut
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 352	Posted - 2013.06.01 01:31:00 - [12] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Amarrians do not support. We CONQUER. Um did I ever mention that this guy is God....we should all be listening to him!
BL4CKST4R WarRavens 89	Posted - 2013.06.01 01:35:00 - [13] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: So I've been whining about this off and on for a bit and will continue to do so because I'm that sort of idiot. Anyway... Proto Amarr medium frame 70 PG base Proto Amarr logistics 66 PG base, Total module slots 6 Proto Gallente logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 8 Proto Minmatar logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 8 Proto Caldari logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 9 WTF CCP you give the medium frame suit more PG than the proto logistics, was the design teams thought when doing this screw the Amarr their logis don't get equipment? I mean the frame has more than the logi suit! You thought that having the PG to equip decent equipment, a light weapon, and a side arm with a whopping 3 highs and 3 lows was going to be OP, but that having a Caldari logi that can stack 5 complex shield extenders (or damage mods), run proto of the kill everythng at every range gun (I.E. Tac AR), run 4 shield regulators, armor reppers, or plates if they wanted to, and have all the PG and CPU in the world is OK? The Amarr logi suit is already paying for it's sidearm by having less module slots than all the other logi suits by 2. Please, please, please, increase the PG on the dang suit to near the levels of all the others, I've given up on 78 like all my other logi-bros get, how about we split the difference and go 72? Maybe then it won't be me and about 5 other stubborn fools who play this game trying to be Amarr and logi Amarr needs 1 extra slot high or low, and they need more CPU/PG
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1641	Posted - 2013.06.01 01:36:00 - [14] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Amarrians do not support. We CONQUER. Um did I ever mention that this guy is God....we should all be listening to him! I thought that was Protoman
True Adamance True Sons Syndicated Aquisitions 4	Posted - 2013.06.01 01:36:00 - [15] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: So I've been whining about this off and on for a bit and will continue to do so because I'm that sort of idiot. Anyway... Proto Amarr medium frame 70 PG base Proto Amarr logistics 66 PG base, Total module slots 6 Proto Gallente logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 8 Proto Minmatar logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 8 Proto Caldari logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 9 WTF CCP you give the medium frame suit more PG than the proto logistics, was the design teams thought when doing this screw the Amarr their logis don't get equipment? I mean the frame has more than the logi suit! You thought that having the PG to equip decent equipment, a light weapon, and a side arm with a whopping 3 highs and 3 lows was going to be OP, but that having a Caldari logi that can stack 5 complex shield extenders (or damage mods), run proto of the kill everythng at every range gun (I.E. Tac AR), run 4 shield regulators, armor reppers, or plates if they wanted to, and have all the PG and CPU in the world is OK? The Amarr logi suit is already paying for it's sidearm by having less module slots than all the other logi suits by 2. Please, please, please, increase the PG on the dang suit to near the levels of all the others, I've given up on 78 like all my other logi-bros get, how about we split the difference and go 72? Maybe then it won't be me and about 5 other stubborn fools who play this game trying to be Amarr and logi Amarr needs 1 extra slot high or low, they need more CPU/PG, and a bit higher base EHP Needs to be a low slot because the Amarr are Armour tankers.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1641	Posted - 2013.06.01 01:39:00 - [16] - Quote This is why I carry the cheapest needle BTW, sucks to be you if you get insta-killed after I revive you, but you're not worth extra fitting costs.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 161	Posted - 2013.06.01 01:44:00 - [17] - Quote Wow, anyone else remember before uprising how we all said the Amarr logi was going to be OP because it had a sidearm and the CaLogi was going to be crap?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1641	Posted - 2013.06.01 01:48:00 - [18] - Quote Cosgar's Alt wrote: Wow, anyone else remember before uprising how we all said the Amarr logi was going to be OP because it had a sidearm and the CaLogi was going to be crap? Nope, I called it! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=733696#post733696 Even on paper it looks weak.
Warpawn Thanos HongKong n Shanghai Merc Corp 9	Posted - 2013.06.01 03:49:00 - [19] - Quote Just upping CPU/PG to standard logi levels would make it worth a glance before rejecting it at least. I wish they were useful
Beta Dust Fish Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.01 04:50:00 - [20] - Quote well same goes for the Amarr Assault at prototype levels. It was not just Logi that got screwed. It was the whole Amarr dropsuit line completely.

Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 2	Posted - 2013.06.01 05:04:00 - [21] - Quote "My dear Amarrian Logibros. You may carry less then your enemies, you may be slower then your enemies and your suit may not function as well as your enemies, but those monetary sacrifices have ensured you perish from this world in a coffin of illustrious gold. Never forget, Beauty is your true power." - Empress Jamyl
Aero Yassavi Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.01 05:39:00 - [22] - Quote Beta Dust Fish wrote: well same goes for the Amarr Assault at prototype levels. It was not just Logi that got screwed. It was the whole Amarr dropsuit line completely. I was just going to say this. Gallente gets 3 high 4 low, 7 total. Caldari gets 4 high 3 low, 7 total. Minmatar gets 5 high 2 low, 7 total. Amarr gets 3 high 3 low, 6 total. CCP hates the Chosen Race.
Full Metal Kitten Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 657	Posted - 2013.06.01 05:54:00 - [23] - Quote Green Living wrote: I went Amarr assault with Laser Rifle with my respec, call me a glutton for punishment. Green - I admire your tenacity. I want to love the LR. I really do. I'm going to come back to it someday. Someday.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1642	Posted - 2013.06.01 07:09:00 - [24] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: "My dear Amarrian Logibros. You may carry less then your enemies, you may be slower then your enemies and your suit may not function as well as your enemies, but those monetary sacrifices have ensured you perish from this world in a coffin of illustrious gold. Never forget, Beauty is your true power." - Empress Jamyl It's yellow though...
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1836	Posted - 2013.06.01 07:38:00 - [25] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: So I've been whining about this off and on for a bit and will continue to do so because I'm that sort of idiot. Anyway... Proto Amarr medium frame 70 PG base Proto Amarr logistics 66 PG base, Total module slots 6 Proto Gallente logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 8 Proto Minmatar logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 8 Proto Caldari logistics 78 PG base, Total module slots 9 WTF CCP you give the medium frame suit more PG than the proto logistics, was the design teams thought when doing this screw the Amarr their logis don't get equipment? I mean the frame has more than the logi suit! You thought that having the PG to equip decent equipment, a light weapon, and a side arm with a whopping 3 highs and 3 lows was going to be OP, but that having a Caldari logi that can stack 5 complex shield extenders (or damage mods), run proto of the kill everythng at every range gun (I.E. Tac AR), run 4 shield regulators, armor reppers, or plates if they wanted to, and have all the PG and CPU in the world is OK? The Amarr logi suit is already paying for it's sidearm by having less module slots than all the other logi suits by 2. Please, please, please, increase the PG on the dang suit to near the levels of all the others, I've given up on 78 like all my other logi-bros get, how about we split the difference and go 72? Maybe then it won't be me and about 5 other stubborn fools who play this game trying to be Amarr and logi Amarr Logistics Ak.0 is my favorite suit in the game. As an aggressive assault suit it is fully equiped . Unfortunately it seems balanced to only fit standard gear in nine of the twelve slots. Would be silly to NEED level 5 of the fitting skill for every item of the fit just to not run basic weapons.


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