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Technical-Support
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:18:00 -
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PAY 2 WIN |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:21:00 -
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PAY TO ADVANCE. -----------------> Right to victory! |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:22:00 -
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I came across some guy today who would only use these in CQC or any gunfights.
Whenever I got close to him with my Scout
*BOOM*
Some Noob (Fused Locus Grenade) Poor Old Knight Solaire
Pain in the ass, I have no problem with Contact grenades, as long as they dont have as much damage and as big as a radius as the Basic grenades. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:22:00 -
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Cry2Much? |
Technical-Support
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:25:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Cry2Much?
Not crying just saying im paying to win.... |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:31:00 -
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Technical-Support wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Cry2Much? Not crying just saying im paying to win.... The ISK version of that grenade was supposed to be deployed already. However that ISK bug crept up and forced them to focus on fixing it first. |
Dale Templar
Regime Of Shadow Marines Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:42:00 -
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I WAS running AUR weapons and modules, but then I got my Respec and can actually use the weapons I had AUR'd into, so no, it's not pay to win at all. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.05.31 20:19:00 -
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How many noobs do we have to put up with telling us it's pay to win when it isn't? |
Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.31 20:40:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Technical-Support wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Cry2Much? Not crying just saying im paying to win.... The ISK version of that grenade was supposed to be deployed already. However that ISK bug crept up and forced them to focus on fixing it first.
Keep making up excuses.
First there's no reason they should have provided the AUR version if they weren't going to simultaneously release the ISK version.
Second it isn't as if the few minor cosmetic/variable changes to the AUR version should have delayed a later release of the ISK version.
This grenade provides an obvious advantage to people that pay money for it, if that isn't pay to win then they changed the definition while I wasn't paying attention.
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Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.31 20:57:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Technical-Support wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Cry2Much? Not crying just saying im paying to win.... The ISK version of that grenade was supposed to be deployed already. However that ISK bug crept up and forced them to focus on fixing it first. Keep making up excuses. First there's no reason they should have provided the AUR version if they weren't going to simultaneously release the ISK version. Second it isn't as if the few minor cosmetic/variable changes to the AUR version should have delayed a later release of the ISK version. This grenade provides an obvious advantage to people that pay money for it, if that isn't pay to win then they changed the definition while I wasn't paying attention. My suits carry AV grenades and I still win. |
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:02:00 -
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*starts stockpiling fuse nades*
See? this is why we can't have nice things!
good day to you sirs! *slams door* |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:03:00 -
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Is that all you have? I need to eat through another 15000 before I get down there. |
Rinas Rylos
Rinas' Raiders
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:08:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:How many noobs do we have to put up with telling us it's pay to win when it isn't? Forever.
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:26:00 -
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almost right... you spelled it wrong though:
"Pay2Whine"
they put up money for aurum. they got beat by better players who used militia gear they whined for nerfs and since they had the aurum thiing going, they got the nerfs.
now the game is broken but the casual codbois are happy. player count was below 7k last i saw. down 1k from the average.
Peace B |
Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:35:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:almost right... you spelled it wrong though:
"Pay2Whine"
they put up money for aurum. they got beat by better players who used militia gear they whined for nerfs and since they had the aurum thiing going, they got the nerfs.
now the game is broken but the casual codbois are happy. player count was below 7k last i saw. down 1k from the average.
Peace B
Here's your problem though. Even if those whiners in militia gear tried as hard as they could and built up SP and upgraded their gear and practiced until their skills were on par with that other player the advantage still lies with the person that has exclusive access to an item you can only get with money.
If players are otherwise evenly matched but one of them has the advantage because they paid for it that's what we call pay to win.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:48:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:Here's your problem though. Even if those whiners in militia gear tried as hard as they could and built up SP and upgraded their gear and practiced until their skills were on par with that other player the advantage still lies with the person that has exclusive access to an item you can only get with money.
If players are otherwise evenly matched but one of them has the advantage because they paid for it that's what we call pay to win.
FFS. CCP asks people to look for AUR items that have inappropriate stats so they can fix them. You know, they are changing things from time to time, and hey, sometimes there is an odd item out for a short period of time.
Anyhow, the reason things are not pay 2 win is because short of mistakes anything you can get with AUR is available with ISK as long as you have the skills.
If you don't have the skills, you can use AUR to pretend you do. But it isn't pay 2 win... it's pay to not wait so long to get there. That is valid and acceptable to most sane and rational people.
Done whining yet? |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:53:00 -
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not even close.
we kept kicking the crap outta the protoads and my crew only used militia thru the end of chromo. never went protoad. still slowly workin into it. i think maybe one or 2 of us have protoad gear now. embarassed to be seen in it.
beat the SNOT outta those nerds because they just aren't that good at shooting or tactical thinking. they spaz out and that makes em easy targets. yeah bunnyhoping is gonna help ya, lol.
the only time they were a challenge was when there was about 4 codbois in protoad gear in a squad and they were all together.... and a tank. THEN they had a shot.
so they whined about it.
got the ranges removed from the game so that it was all shoot outs at 10 feet. same nerds who think that the aiming is fine now.
then these flaming mos actually had the nerve to lean back and claim "htfu".
like i said. Pay2Whine.
it's the only way they can get by.
Peace B |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:54:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:How many noobs do we have to put up with telling us it's pay to win when it isn't?
Probably quite a few until CCP stops putting out new Pay 2 Win items. |
Technical-Support
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:00:00 -
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Did anyone actually click the link and saw the effort i put into making the most ''1337'' pic ever? |
Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:17:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Mike Poole wrote:Here's your problem though. Even if those whiners in militia gear tried as hard as they could and built up SP and upgraded their gear and practiced until their skills were on par with that other player the advantage still lies with the person that has exclusive access to an item you can only get with money.
If players are otherwise evenly matched but one of them has the advantage because they paid for it that's what we call pay to win.
FFS. CCP asks people to look for AUR items that have inappropriate stats so they can fix them. You know, they are changing things from time to time, and hey, sometimes there is an odd item out for a short period of time. Anyhow, the reason things are not pay 2 win is because short of mistakes anything you can get with AUR is available with ISK as long as you have the skills. If you don't have the skills, you can use AUR to pretend you do. But it isn't pay 2 win... it's pay to not wait so long to get there. That is valid and acceptable to most sane and rational people. Done whining yet?
This isn't a case of a mistakenly typed damage value popping up and temporarily making an item OP. This is the release of an AUR only item that provides a distinct advantage to those that purchase it.
Rather than immediately adding the missing ISK variant or removing the AUR variant to preserve balance and fairness they decided to leave the AUR variant in and continue to cash in on it. |
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:21:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:not even close.
we kept kicking the crap outta the protoads and my crew only used militia thru the end of chromo. never went protoad. still slowly workin into it. i think maybe one or 2 of us have protoad gear now. embarassed to be seen in it.
beat the SNOT outta those nerds because they just aren't that good at shooting or tactical thinking. they spaz out and that makes em easy targets. yeah bunnyhoping is gonna help ya, lol.
the only time they were a challenge was when there was about 4 codbois in protoad gear in a squad and they were all together.... and a tank. THEN they had a shot.
so they whined about it.
got the ranges removed from the game so that it was all shoot outs at 10 feet. same nerds who think that the aiming is fine now.
then these flaming mos actually had the nerve to lean back and claim "htfu".
like i said. Pay2Whine.
it's the only way they can get by.
Peace B How is using the best equipment that your skills and wallet allow embarrassing? I'm not actually looking for an answer, I'll still be trying to figure how a functioning brain could come up with this. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.31 23:17:00 -
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don't need it. didn't until the nerds had the ranges remvoed.
now it's just sad.
i don't play cod. the nerds turned this into cod with shields.
much like fat girls and mopeds...
embarassed to be seen on either one.
Peace B |
Mobias Wyvern
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:55:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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