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Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 185	Posted - 2013.05.31 19:14:00 - [1] - Quote Why does it have less range than the standard AR? It has less DPS, it fires slowly and has hard hitting bullets. Sounds like a weapon designed for longer ranged engagements than the AR. High Alpha, low DPS. Something between the AR and the TAC AR. (What the TAC AR is supposed to be, not the broken stuff we have now) A CQC assault rifle would have higher DPS, lower damage per bullet, high fire rate, less range and pretty decent spread. (It actually helps in CQC believe it or not, as long as its not excessive)
Xender17 Murderz for hire 126	Posted - 2013.05.31 19:22:00 - [2] - Quote Why does the scrambler rifle suck so much is what I want to know. You can barely kill a scout without it over heating...
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 185	Posted - 2013.05.31 19:24:00 - [3] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Why does the scrambler rifle suck so much is what I want to know. You can barely kill a scout without it over heating... If you are talking about the standard scram rifle, then I didn't do much testing with it so I can't say much in that matter. However if you're talking about the assault scram rifle then your argument is invalid because its just as effective as an AR.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 422	Posted - 2013.05.31 19:31:00 - [4] - Quote Because it is meant to help 'breach' through entrances and engage in CQC. Thing is, that it sucks against armor and shields, at least the breach SMG does better damage against shields.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 185	Posted - 2013.05.31 19:34:00 - [5] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Because it is meant to help 'breach' through entrances and engage in CQC. Thing is, that it sucks against armor and shields, at least the breach SMG does better damage against shields. Actually, here are some stats: AR's: 110% shield damage 90% armor damage SMG's: 90% shield damage 110% armor damage
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 26	Posted - 2013.05.31 19:35:00 - [6] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: Why does it have less range than the standard AR? It has less DPS, it fires slowly and has hard hitting bullets. Sounds like a weapon designed for longer ranged engagements than the AR. High Alpha, low DPS. Something between the AR and the TAC AR. (What the TAC AR is supposed to be, not the broken stuff we have now) A CQC assault rifle would have higher DPS, lower damage per bullet, high fire rate, less range and pretty decent spread. (It actually helps in CQC believe it or not, as long as its not excessive) Because in closed beta it was an awesome weapon and tons if people used it even though the current DPS difference you mention was still the same so CCP nerfed the range and damage on it and now its pretty useless, the TAC does more damage, shoots faster, and out ranges it by a mile. The breach AR is basically a hard hitting smg with a terrible fire rate now.
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 164	Posted - 2013.05.31 19:36:00 - [7] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Why does the scrambler rifle suck so much is what I want to know. You can barely kill a scout without it over heating... Lol really? I can kill any assault suit with two charged shots and one charged headshot. Train into the damage multipliers is the key. It is like a Tac AR but higher damage and takes skill to manage overheating.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1767	Posted - 2013.05.31 19:36:00 - [8] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Because it is meant to help 'breach' through entrances and engage in CQC. Thing is, that it sucks against armor and shields, at least the breach SMG does better damage against shields. Huh? I've been running a Raven with that thing and shitting on everyone.
Dale Templar Regime Of Shadow Marines Alpha Wolf Pack 55	Posted - 2013.05.31 19:40:00 - [9] - Quote The Breach AR can absolutely tear through anything, I've beaten Proto Caldari + TAC AR with Breach AR, land a good few shots and it'll kill pretty much anyone. Breach ftw.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 187	Posted - 2013.05.31 20:02:00 - [10] - Quote Dale Templar wrote: The Breach AR can absolutely tear through anything, I've beaten Proto Caldari + TAC AR with Breach AR, land a good few shots and it'll kill pretty much anyone. Breach ftw. Any other AR (Except the burst) has the potential to beat it, since they all have more DPS.

DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 422	Posted - 2013.05.31 20:23:00 - [11] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Because it is meant to help 'breach' through entrances and engage in CQC. Thing is, that it sucks against armor and shields, at least the breach SMG does better damage against shields. Huh? I've been running a Raven with that thing and shitting on everyone. I ran it for 3 weeks back in Chromosome and it sucked donkey balls. Used the MAR and was impressed that the Adv. Breach was worse than it. Some people like it, but honestly, the other AR variants are much better.
Vethosis Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 56	Posted - 2013.05.31 20:37:00 - [12] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Why does the scrambler rifle suck so much is what I want to know. You can barely kill a scout without it over heating... Get good aim
Turkevich Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 35	Posted - 2013.05.31 20:38:00 - [13] - Quote The problem with the breach AR versus the standard AR is that if you miss it hurts you a lot more. The same concept exists in other games where you have slow high damage weapons and fast low damage weapons. The DPS may be the same but if you miss once with a high damage weapon you lose more effective damage than if you miss once with a low damage weapon. I'd do the math but I think you probably get the point. That said I really like the breach AR. Mostly because that slower rate of fire just sounds cooler. Despite liking it I do better with a standard AR.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 133	Posted - 2013.05.31 20:51:00 - [14] - Quote The breach AR is meant to be the king of CQC with the tightest hip fire spread and high damage shots, but the TAR excels in this category as well as the other variants intended specialties at the same time. This is one of the main reasons why the TAR is OP. It isn't just the damage.


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