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Mr PurpSicle
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 16:22:00 -
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Misery Escapes wrote:lol? So Orion clearly got used by CRONOS and then got spat out after they served their purpose. A valuable lesson learned chaps! Cheerio!
Don't believe this propaganda. Due to our intensive recruiting at the time we had problems with "blueberries" in our corp joining PC battles, sometimes three at a time, so we purged everyone who was not experienced enough to participate in PC. This explains our large reduction in member numbers. Proof, take a look at the membership levels of corporation "D3LTA Academy"
Now I'm not saying we don't have any problems, but the downfall was in no way, shape, or form caused by CRONOS or their leadership. This is fact. It was a combination of 5 or 6 different factors. Mainly the combined attack on us by NF and EON was the cause. The three of us went after the same system at launch and we lost. |
Mr PurpSicle
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:54:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Mr PurpSicle wrote:Misery Escapes wrote:lol? So Orion clearly got used by CRONOS and then got spat out after they served their purpose. A valuable lesson learned chaps! Cheerio! Don't believe this propaganda. Due to our intensive recruiting at the time we had problems with "blueberries" in our corp joining PC battles, sometimes three at a time, so we purged everyone who was not experienced enough to participate in PC. This explains our large reduction in member numbers. Proof, take a look at the membership levels of corporation "D3LTA Academy" Now I'm not saying we don't have any problems, but the downfall was in no way, shape, or form caused by CRONOS or their leadership. This is fact. It was a combination of 5 or 6 different factors. Mainly the combined attack on us by NF and EON was the cause. The three of us went after the same system at launch and we lost. TBQH, u would of gotten removed even if u were just fighting 1 and not 2.
That's debatable but likely true. I would like to believe that our corp would have more or less stayed together had we just been fighting one. We lost many good players because of the low moral caused by too many battle losses. Whether the war with 2 of the 3 top alliance was a result of our decisions or just bad luck, I don't know |
Mr PurpSicle
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:57:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Mr PurpSicle wrote:Misery Escapes wrote:lol? So Orion clearly got used by CRONOS and then got spat out after they served their purpose. A valuable lesson learned chaps! Cheerio! Don't believe this propaganda. Due to our intensive recruiting at the time we had problems with "blueberries" in our corp joining PC battles, sometimes three at a time, so we purged everyone who was not experienced enough to participate in PC. This explains our large reduction in member numbers. Proof, take a look at the membership levels of corporation "D3LTA Academy" Now I'm not saying we don't have any problems, but the downfall was in no way, shape, or form caused by CRONOS or their leadership. This is fact. It was a combination of 5 or 6 different factors. Mainly the combined attack on us by NF and EON was the cause. The three of us went after the same system at launch and we lost. tbh, this goes against what all these zerg corps preached a while back, which was quantity > quality well we showed that quality > quantity. All the big dreams people had about DUST being = to EVE where numbers are concerned didn't transpire as well as some hoped for. Not saying that numbers aren't important, but so is winning fights. 1000 bad players not winning anything < 100 good players winning every fight.
Very true, however we found most of our top players by "shotgun" recruiting. We just screwed up a bit in the organization of all of our players. And, there's no way your going to recruit top players into a corp with no reputation. You have to grow them first then ride of off any momentum to get more, already established players. |
Mr PurpSicle
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 20:50:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Mr PurpSicle wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Mr PurpSicle wrote:Misery Escapes wrote:lol? So Orion clearly got used by CRONOS and then got spat out after they served their purpose. A valuable lesson learned chaps! Cheerio! Don't believe this propaganda. Due to our intensive recruiting at the time we had problems with "blueberries" in our corp joining PC battles, sometimes three at a time, so we purged everyone who was not experienced enough to participate in PC. This explains our large reduction in member numbers. Proof, take a look at the membership levels of corporation "D3LTA Academy" Now I'm not saying we don't have any problems, but the downfall was in no way, shape, or form caused by CRONOS or their leadership. This is fact. It was a combination of 5 or 6 different factors. Mainly the combined attack on us by NF and EON was the cause. The three of us went after the same system at launch and we lost. TBQH, u would of gotten removed even if u were just fighting 1 and not 2. That's debatable but likely true. I would like to believe that our corp would have more or less stayed together had we just been fighting one. We lost many good players because of the low moral caused by too many battle losses. Whether the war with 2 of the 3 top alliance was a result of our decisions or just bad luck, I don't know It was Decisions. Wasnt bad luck. U decided to get in bed with CRONOS and paid for it. They used u and spat u out when u served no more purpose. Also braggin prior to launch of PC about taking ppls POS (albeit dumb move by whoever left it there) and basically challenging us to come kick u out wasnt very smart but again probably thought with Orion + Cronos there was no way u could lose to a 1000 man alliance. with 6000 players This is where the EVE peeps at the top underestimated how important quality actually is and not just numbers
CRONOS didn't use us. Our relationship with them was/is very positive. There's no fact is that statement.
No one should believe anything said about CRONOS coming from NF or EON as it is all propaganda.
What were the consequences of blue'ing CRONOS? EON blue'ing NF?
And the POS, well that was just funny(one of our only victories) and we knew long before that incident that ORION and EON were both going for the same system. And I aggree, it probably didn't help to brag about it but combat was virtually initiated already.
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Mr PurpSicle
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:03:00 -
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EnIgMa99 wrote:Mr PurpSicle wrote:
CRONOS didn't use us.
When you attacked us over and over and then NF started taking your stuff CRONOS sure ran tail real real real quick
They offered help with every battle. And our attacks were merely a counter-offensive (though weak) to yours. Its not like they were telling us what to do. ORION followed its own plan, which may have lead to its downfall. |
Mr PurpSicle
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:16:00 -
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Because we don't even have enough good players left to hold up to most corps on the PC map. Oh yeah, it was big fail. Maybe legendary status. But again I get back to my post on where CRONOS didn't use us. They did everything we asked them to do and we took no orders from them. They helped us when ever we needed players. Not saying we didn't make mistakes. We obviously made grave ones, but not under the direction of CRONOS.
Once again, more propaganda from the EON/NF side. Reader beware. |
Mr PurpSicle
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:29:00 -
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#impswipe could happen to anyone. it hurt but we took it like a man |
Mr PurpSicle
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:41:00 -
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Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:
You keep saying that but Mavado just keeps dropping logic and real answers. If your friends with Cronos why aint they hook you guys up with some districts like Mavado said? Ya know help out your allies, bring in some money maybe raise morale a bit since you actually get to own something for once?
Look at the map and see for yourself, you got used, STB is getting used etc etc. Stop trying to ward logic off by calling it propaganda.
Mr PurpSicle wrote:
Because we don't even have enough good players left to hold up to most corps on the PC map
Already answered both. Everyone one left too quick. We haven't asked them for anymore help because there's hardly anything left of ORION.
We picked that planet, CRONOS didn't pick it for us.
It just gonna come down to a he said/she said debate.
But again, don't believe anything coming from NF/EON |
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