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Bro-metheus
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:36:00 -
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Add a really slow zoom, a super slow turn speed while zoomed, 100-200m more range to the breach forge gun and a more visible ball. |

Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:37:00 -
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Why? |

TERMINALANCE
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:40:00 -
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Probably because he wants it to be a more unique variant. its not really worth getting 90% of the time. |

Sontie
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:41:00 -
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2 shots tanks...
Only think that can kill a LLAV (assault doesn't do enough damage in one hit, the LLAV will run before it gets killed) |

Bro-metheus
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:45:00 -
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Sontie wrote:2 shots tanks...
Only think that can kill a LLAV (assault doesn't do enough damage in one hit, the LLAV will run before it gets killed)
LLAVs are fast and small so they have that to avoid getting hit. of your sitting still in a Lav you probably deserve to die. and LLavs can have like 6k life fool.
It does not 2 shot tanks. That tank would have to be pretty crappy to die in 2 shots. you must know nothing about tanks.
Hardeners shield and armor variants Reppers Shield boosters
Why don't you get a good tank fit and tell me it can 2 shot tanks. |

Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:46:00 -
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Because tanks arent easy enough to kill already, right? I guess he needs to be able to snipe dropships and tanks from even further away, now. |

Bro-metheus
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:46:00 -
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Its not enough of a variant to be as worthwhile as it should be for its intended task. |

Bro-metheus
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:47:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Because tanks arent easy enough to kill already, right? I guess he needs to be able to snipe dropships and tanks from even further away, now.
Why dont you get a capable tank instead of a LOL aur tank. |

Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
368
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:47:00 -
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Bro-metheus wrote:Sontie wrote:2 shots tanks...
Only think that can kill a LLAV (assault doesn't do enough damage in one hit, the LLAV will run before it gets killed) LLAVs are fast and small so they have that to avoid getting hit. of your sitting still in a Lav you probably deserve to die. and LLavs can have like 6k life fool. It does not 2 shot tanks. That tank would have to be pretty crappy to die in 2 shots. you must know nothing about tanks. Hardeners shield and armor variants Reppers Shield boosters Why don't you get a good tank fit and tell me it can 2 shot tanks.
2 shots from a proto breach for damage mods and fully skilled up does 12,000 damage. Show me a tank with 12,000 hit points and ill say it wont 2-shot tanks. How do i know? Ive been killed by a proto forge and it said 6000. |

danny12343331
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:48:00 -
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Bro-metheus wrote:Sontie wrote:2 shots tanks...
Only think that can kill a LLAV (assault doesn't do enough damage in one hit, the LLAV will run before it gets killed) LLAVs are fast and small so they have that to avoid getting hit. of your sitting still in a Lav you probably deserve to die. and LLavs can have like 6k life fool. It does not 2 shot tanks. That tank would have to be pretty crappy to die in 2 shots. you must know nothing about tanks. Hardeners shield and armor variants Reppers Shield boosters Why don't you get a good tank fit and tell me it can 2 shot tanks.
Have you ever got shot by this breach, its like the ******* proto compressed railgun without dmg mod penalties, even worse when the heavy runs dmg mods..... |
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Bro-metheus
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:49:00 -
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danny12343331 wrote:Bro-metheus wrote:Sontie wrote:2 shots tanks...
Only think that can kill a LLAV (assault doesn't do enough damage in one hit, the LLAV will run before it gets killed) LLAVs are fast and small so they have that to avoid getting hit. of your sitting still in a Lav you probably deserve to die. and LLavs can have like 6k life fool. It does not 2 shot tanks. That tank would have to be pretty crappy to die in 2 shots. you must know nothing about tanks. Hardeners shield and armor variants Reppers Shield boosters Why don't you get a good tank fit and tell me it can 2 shot tanks. Have you ever got shot by this breach, its like the ******* proto compressed railgun without dmg mod penalties, even worse when the heavy runs dmg mods.....
The assault has far more DPS per second including reload time. |

Raze galder
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:50:00 -
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Give it the ability to 2 shot burst |

Bro-metheus
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 04:56:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Bro-metheus wrote:Sontie wrote:2 shots tanks...
Only think that can kill a LLAV (assault doesn't do enough damage in one hit, the LLAV will run before it gets killed) LLAVs are fast and small so they have that to avoid getting hit. of your sitting still in a Lav you probably deserve to die. and LLavs can have like 6k life fool. It does not 2 shot tanks. That tank would have to be pretty crappy to die in 2 shots. you must know nothing about tanks. Hardeners shield and armor variants Reppers Shield boosters Why don't you get a good tank fit and tell me it can 2 shot tanks. 2 shots from a proto breach for damage mods and fully skilled up does 12,000 damage. Show me a tank with 12,000 hit points and ill say it wont 2-shot tanks. How do i know? Ive been killed by a proto forge and it said 6000.
WWAAAAAAAHHHT???
How about you show the math on how 18% from 2 dmg mods and 15% from full proficiency take a weapon that does 2300 something dmg and turns it into 12,000?
Show me the math. SHOW ME IT? Cant?! because you pulled that number out your ass?!
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TERMINALANCE
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:46:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Bro-metheus wrote:Sontie wrote:2 shots tanks...
Only think that can kill a LLAV (assault doesn't do enough damage in one hit, the LLAV will run before it gets killed) LLAVs are fast and small so they have that to avoid getting hit. of your sitting still in a Lav you probably deserve to die. and LLavs can have like 6k life fool. It does not 2 shot tanks. That tank would have to be pretty crappy to die in 2 shots. you must know nothing about tanks. Hardeners shield and armor variants Reppers Shield boosters Why don't you get a good tank fit and tell me it can 2 shot tanks. 2 shots from a proto breach for damage mods and fully skilled up does 12,000 damage. Show me a tank with 12,000 hit points and ill say it wont 2-shot tanks. How do i know? Ive been killed by a proto forge and it said 6000.
Base dmg 2772.0 (Proto) x 18% (x2 dmg mods most you can fit) and then x 15% (Pro 5) = 3761.604 so your lying or misread.
And it has a 6.0 second charge time so its DPS per second is way below that of a assault forge gun. |

Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:50:00 -
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Bro-metheus wrote:Add a really slow zoom, a super slow turn speed while zoomed, 100-200m more range to the breach forge gun and a more visible ball.
Why is the first thing I imagine when I see this post are Redline forge snipers. |

TERMINALANCE
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:54:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Bro-metheus wrote:Add a really slow zoom, a super slow turn speed while zoomed, 100-200m more range to the breach forge gun and a more visible ball. Why is the first thing I imagine when I see this post are Redline forge snipers.
If it has a super bright visible ball at distance and takes 6 seconds to charge maybe that is your fault? maybe we could make the ball take longer to reach its destination? so its slower then other forge gun rounds? Should do more dmg if it moves 25% slower though. |

Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:59:00 -
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TERMINALANCE wrote: If it has a super bright visible ball at distance and takes 6 seconds to charge maybe that is your fault? maybe we could make the ball take longer to reach its destination? so its slower then other forge gun rounds? Should do more dmg if it moves 25% slower though.
Yea but you have people asking for 2x shots and burst fire. And if you make it move slower you are going to have people complaining they can't hit LAVs. People already hate the plasma cannon because its slow and sucks. I've never seen one used if that gives you any idea.
And 6 seconds charge time? Now you are talking about a weapon that should be used for shooting the MCC or something like a single blast precision orbital bombardment
[Edit]: Which would be cool by the way.... |

Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:50:00 -
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yes buff proto breach forge its not OP enough. |

BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:54:00 -
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Bro-metheus wrote:Add a really slow zoom, a super slow turn speed while zoomed, 100-200m more range to the breach forge gun and a more visible ball.
So you want a handheld railgun? |

TERMINALANCE
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:40:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:TERMINALANCE wrote: If it has a super bright visible ball at distance and takes 6 seconds to charge maybe that is your fault? maybe we could make the ball take longer to reach its destination? so its slower then other forge gun rounds? Should do more dmg if it moves 25% slower though. Yea but you have people asking for 2x shots and burst fire. And if you make it move slower you are going to have people complaining they can't hit LAVs. People already hate the plasma cannon because its slow and sucks. I've never seen one used if that gives you any idea. And 6 seconds charge time? Now you are talking about a weapon that should be used for shooting the MCC or something like a single blast precision orbital bombardment [Edit]: Which would be cool by the way....
IT HAS A 6 Seconed CHARGE TIME! allready!
DO any of the last 3 posters actually read the thread? Breach forge gun! BREACH not the other ones. its a variant OF the forge gun.. Why even comment in the thread if you don't even know what we are talking about.
And these changes would make it less OP not more it would make it More specialized, IE easier to see then it is right now, slower moving ball so its harder to hit at range but powerful when it does. |
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