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Solaire Artorias
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:26:00 -
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I was pretty disappointed that Dust wasn't released with trophies. I was looking forward to earning trophies for one of the most alluring FPS's i've played. It sounds like a good idea to me. Heck, even the game Free Realms has trophies. What do you guys think? Would trophies for Dust 514 interest anyone, or am I the only one thinking about this?? |
Angelic Purity
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:36:00 -
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you're the only one. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:57:00 -
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i hope they will not be stupid trophies, some are too easy, some request a crazy grinding, i think trophies should be a reward for gaming. |
Rinas Rylos
Rinas' Raiders
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Posted - 2013.05.30 06:35:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:i hope they will not be stupid trophies, some are too easy, some request a crazy grinding, i think trophies should be a reward for gaming. This pretty much epitomizes what's wrong with achievements/trophies (achieverophies?) today. Either they're practically given away for doing such things as turning on the game, or they force you to spend far more time than one would usually give to a single game to obtain. This, however, is not the fault of the trophies, but rather of the devs who seem to have lost sight of what an actual achievement should be.
On the whole, I'm of the belief that trophies should be things that take some extra effort to obtain, but not to a ridiculous extreme. Beat a single player game? Sure, that's worth a trophy, I think. You played through the whole experience of the game, saw most or all of what the developers had to offer, and had enough skill to overcome it. It might not be particularly monumental, but I think it just edges over the line into an accomplishment, though perhaps that's dependent on the game itself. Beyond that, perhaps there can be ones for maxing out particular skills during a single playthrough, or managing to flawlessly pass a particularly challenging bit. Those are also rather dependent on the game, but still pretty reasonable, I think. Now, forcing you to grind out a certain skill that's otherwise worthless outside very specific points? Not okay. Nor would be making incredibly difficult to find areas in linear games, or forcing you to play through a sandbox game while limiting yourself between the tools you're given.
Now, for a multiplayer game? That's a whole other story. Shooters tend to vary on how exactly they give these out, though most usually give a starter one for winning a match, with more trophyments given out as your W/L ratio climbs. Halo has them in the form of unusual kills or managing to satisfy the conditions surrounding scenarios that are generally hard to actually obtain in normal multiplayer play, which strikes me as a bit of a kick in the face if your playstyle isn't suited for them. While it's a bit plain, I tend to prefer the former, as it encourages a more competitive mindset in those who are trophychievment hunters, and come as nice surprises to those of us who aren't.
Now, Dust is a bit of a special case. While I enjoy the gameplay to a degree, I feel as though trophies might...cheapen the experience, I suppose? While the game is certainly open to casual players, it really feels like Dust is there to cater to a more hardcore audience, and that such a thing as trophies might be a tad pointless in the overall scheme of things. |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
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Posted - 2013.05.30 09:15:00 -
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Four entries from top of my head
RDV Hiker - for jumping on top of Bolas 1st time RDV Rider - for jumping 10th time RDV Surfer - for 100th jump Lazarus - for being rezzed for 1st time |
Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi
Rautaleijona Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.31 04:08:00 -
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There should be one for AFKing in x amount of matches. |
Xylus Zenophilius
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:04:00 -
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Rinas Rylos wrote:shaman oga wrote:i hope they will not be stupid trophies, some are too easy, some request a crazy grinding, i think trophies should be a reward for gaming. This pretty much epitomizes what's wrong with achievements/trophies (achieverophies?) today. Either they're practically given away for doing such things as turning on the game, or they force you to spend far more time than one would usually give to a single game to obtain. This, however, is not the fault of the trophies, but rather of the devs who seem to have lost sight of what an actual achievement should be. On the whole, I'm of the belief that trophies should be things that take some extra effort to obtain, but not to a ridiculous extreme. Beat a single player game? Sure, that's worth a trophy, I think. You played through the whole experience of the game, saw most or all of what the developers had to offer, and had enough skill to overcome it. It might not be particularly monumental, but I think it just edges over the line into an accomplishment, though perhaps that's dependent on the game itself. Beyond that, perhaps there can be ones for maxing out particular skills during a single playthrough, or managing to flawlessly pass a particularly challenging bit. Those are also rather dependent on the game, but still pretty reasonable, I think. Now, forcing you to grind out a certain skill that's otherwise worthless outside very specific points? Not okay. Nor would be making incredibly difficult to find areas in linear games, or forcing you to play through a sandbox game while limiting yourself between the tools you're given. Now, for a multiplayer game? That's a whole other story. Shooters tend to vary on how exactly they give these out, though most usually give a starter one for winning a match, with more trophyments given out as your W/L ratio climbs. Halo has them in the form of unusual kills or managing to satisfy the conditions surrounding scenarios that are generally hard to actually obtain in normal multiplayer play, which strikes me as a bit of a kick in the face if your playstyle isn't suited for them. While it's a bit plain, I tend to prefer the former, as it encourages a more competitive mindset in those who are trophychievment hunters, and come as nice surprises to those of us who aren't. Now, Dust is a bit of a special case. While I enjoy the gameplay to a degree, I feel as though trophies might...cheapen the experience, I suppose? While the game is certainly open to casual players, it really feels like Dust is there to cater to a more hardcore audience, and that such a thing as trophies might be a tad pointless in the overall scheme of things. (Claps) very good (no sarcasm intended)
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:19:00 -
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im glad they added no trophies for dust on ps3. I would prefer to earn my trophies on ps4 1st than earn them all again |
Solaire Artorias
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.03 22:16:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:im glad they added no trophies for dust on ps3. I would prefer to earn my trophies on ps4 1st than earn them all again
If i'm not mistaken, Sony has announced that trophy progress will be transferred to the Playstation 4. If they haven't announced it then i'm sure they're working on it, as they would be doing whatever they can to 1-up Microsoft's Xbox One - although that wouldn't be very hard. |
HexSoul VI
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:32:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:im glad they added no trophies for dust on ps3. I would prefer to earn my trophies on ps4 1st than earn them all again
what you earn on your acc stays on your acc. its saved to your psn profile |
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:56:00 -
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Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi wrote:There should be one for AFKing in x amount of matches.
I'm guessing you're one of the people that hang out in the MCC for the entire match? |
Kendra Catlen
OverKill Corp
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:31:00 -
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Angelic Purity wrote:you're the only one. no he is not |
Theresa Rohk
The Cuddlefish Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:33:00 -
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Blew up my first tank last night, definitely wanted a trophy for it. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2013.07.03 22:02:00 -
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The only trophies you'll ever need in Dust 514 are the tears of your opponents. |
Tangolarango
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:58:00 -
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"Scrambled eggs" - You have successfully delivered a nutshot with a fully charged scrambler rifle |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.07.05 18:34:00 -
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The game will get Trophies. But nobody knows when. |
FraggerMike
G.R.A.V.E
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:46:00 -
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I want a trophy for deploying from the MCC and waiting so long to push the button that the graphics actually show my mangled clone for a second before I pop back up alive and well, repeatedly :) Perhaps it would be called the "Splat and Live" Award? o.O |
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