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KOBLAKA1 wrote:

Mithridates VI wrote:

KOBLAKA1 wrote:

Sorry if it sounded trollish but I meant like Webster dictionary definition not MMO class roles. Would dictionary.com be more suitable to your tastes. +1 for the retort rather than a shameless gtfo.

Um, you realise that in this context "logistics" and "assault" are specialised jargon which mean whatever CCP want them to mean? Falling back on dictionary definitions of words as grounds for disagreement is a weak troll.

I don't think you know what the intent of the suit is. If the intent of the suit was purely to run a supply fitting, then the customisation options would not exist and there would be restrictions on what gear could be fit to the suit.

Logistics equals supply and triage. CCP wouldn't have called the suit logistics on a whim. If the intent was omnirole then they would have called it "jack of all trades" or I don't know assault. If you pick logistics the intent shouldn't be loads of kills like the caldari suit is being abused for. You pick a logistics to throw down equipment and provide heals, then contribute to. combat. I understand that's not always situationally viable but they shouldn't outperform a class whose intended role is dps.


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Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 42	Posted - 2013.05.29 19:12:00 - [1] - Quote . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . ,.-GÇÿGÇ¥. . . . . . . . . .``~., . . . . . . . .. . . . . .,.-GÇ¥. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .GÇ£-., . . . . .. . . . . . ..,/. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . GÇ¥:, . . . . . . . .. .,?. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\, . . . . . . . . . /. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,} . . . . . . . . ./. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:`^`.} . . . . . . . ./. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:GÇ¥. . . ./ . . . . . . .?. . . __. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :`. . . ./ . . . . . . . /__.(. . .GÇ£~-,_. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:`. . . .. ./ . . . . . . /(_. . GÇ¥~,_. . . ..GÇ£~,_. . . . . . . . . .,:`. . . . _/ . . . .. .{.._$;_. . .GÇ¥=,_. . . .GÇ£-,_. . . ,.-~-,}, .~GÇ¥; /. .. .} . . .. . .((. . .~_. . . .GÇ¥=-._. . .GÇ£;,,./`. . /GÇ¥ . . . ./. .. ../ . . . .. . .\`~,. . ..GÇ£~.,. . . . . . . . . ..`. . .}. . . . . . ../ . . . . . .(. ..`=-,,. . . .`. . . . . . . . . . . ..(. . . ;_,,-GÇ¥ . . . . . ../.`~,. . ..`-.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..\. . /\ . . . . . . \`~.-,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..\|,./.....\,__ ,,_. . . . . }.>-._\. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\|. . . . . . ..`=~-, . .. `=~-,_\_. . . `\,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\ . . . . . . . . . .`=~-,,.\,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . `:,, . . . . . . . . . . . . . `\. . . . . . ..__ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .`=-,. . . . . . . . . .,%`>--==`` . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _\. . . . . ._,-%. . . ..`
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 42	Posted - 2013.05.29 19:26:00 - [2] - Quote KOBLAKA1 wrote: Hmmm shameless trolling... Please backup your facepalm A logistics role is the LOGISTICS not leading a charge like an assault. First off it's the Caldari logi that's the problem because the racial bonus makes it seemingly OP. The other suits are far from it unless my Minmatar racial bonus that's only effective in Skirmish somehow intimidates you. Also, Logis have horrible base stats. If you can't beat a logi, just biomass yourself. Dust 514 is obviously too much to handle. If that's not enough, check my post history. I have plenty of arguments on the subject. You're just beating a dead horse that was already put out of its misery.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 54	Posted - 2013.05.30 01:12:00 - [3] - Quote I still love how the OP still says all logis need to be nerfed... Not like the CaLogi needs one either. That thing is so slow, it really does need that racial bonus.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 54	Posted - 2013.05.30 01:16:00 - [4] - Quote KOBLAKA1 wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: KOBLAKA1 wrote: Sorry if it sounded trollish but I meant like Webster dictionary definition not MMO class roles. Would dictionary.com be more suitable to your tastes. +1 for the retort rather than a shameless gtfo. Um, you realise that in this context "logistics" and "assault" are specialised jargon which mean whatever CCP want them to mean? Falling back on dictionary definitions of words as grounds for disagreement is a weak troll. I don't think you know what the intent of the suit is. If the intent of the suit was purely to run a supply fitting, then the customisation options would not exist and there would be restrictions on what gear could be fit to the suit. Logistics equals supply and triage. CCP wouldn't have called the suit logistics on a whim. If the intent was omnirole then they would have called it "jack of all trades" or I don't know assault. If you pick logistics the intent shouldn't be loads of kills like the caldari suit is being abused for. You pick a logistics to throw down equipment and provide heals, then contribute to. combat. I understand that's not always situationally viable but they shouldn't outperform a class whose intended role is dps. Tell that to Remnant, the guy who designed the dropsuits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcB8mKo9SV4
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 55	Posted - 2013.05.30 01:36:00 - [5] - Quote KOBLAKA1 wrote: Cosgar's Alt wrote: I still love how the OP still says all logis need to be nerfed... Not like the CaLogi needs one either. That thing is so slow, it really does need that racial bonus. Pretty sure I agreed that pg/cpu reduction with a reduction on the pg/cpu needs of equipment once it was suggested. Which in all hopes buffs their logistical capabilities I know fitting uplinks cam be a pain sometimes. That's why its a discussion: to come up with a progressive view of the sitution. You seem to be stuck on the past because I gave a valid retort that stumped you and can't progress with the rest of us. Actually, I've been arguing against changes to the logi class for so long, I rather play it before people like you **** it up. I'm stuck on mobile right now, but wait until I get home if you really want a formal response. But you seemed to miss the video, I linked a few posts back.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 63	Posted - 2013.05.30 07:07:00 - [6] - Quote Logistics CK.0 VS Assault CK.0 Max PG >78 KW > 60 KW Max CPU> 390 GF > 380 Shield > 180 HP > 210 HP Armor > 90 HP > 120 HP Shield Recharge Rate > 20.0 HP/s > 25.0 HP/s Shield Recharge Delay > 4.0 S > 5.0 S Shield Depleted Recharge Delay > 6.0 S > 8.0 S Armor Repair Rate > 0 > 0 Movement Speed > 4.7 M/s > 5.0 M/s Sprint Speed > 6.6 M/s > 7.0 M/s Sprint Duration > 11.5 s > 15.0 S Stamina > 115.0 > 150.0 Stamina Recovery Rate > 12.0/s > 15.0/s Scan Profile > 50 DB > 50 DB Scan Precision > 50 DB > 55 DB Scan Radius > 10.0 M > 10.0 M Melee Damage > 110.0 HP > 110.0 HP Logistics Suit Bonus: Assault Suit Bonus: +5 HP/s Armor Repair Rate +25% Dropsuit shield recharge rate Caldari Logistics Suit Bonus: Caldari Assault Suit Bonus +25% Efficiency of shield extender modules +10& Hybrid weapon reload speed (possibly bugged) Fitting: 5H/3E/4L/1LW 4H/1E/3L/1LW/1SA Obviously, the CaLogi's stats are inferior to the Assault in almost every way. The only thing that needs to be changed, is the racial bonus which should be toned down to 2~3% per level. Other logis are absolutely fine, unless you can convince me otherwise.