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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:34:00 -
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Quote:CCP Remnant wrote: We'll be making some adjustments to the rifle ranges in the near future. We're currently testing the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle internally (the two missing archetypes). Within the assault rifle class the four weapon types will break down as follows:
Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - short range Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - short-mid range Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - mid range Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - long range
Keep in mind though that long range for an assault rifle is not equivalent to long range for a sniper rifle, so while they will adhere to existing category definitions don't expect massive differences in the distances between these weapons A lot of the original assault rifle variants (Breach, Burst, Tactical) were created to fill the gaps these newer weapons will fill and so mightGÇÖve felt out of place (not to mention we just plain made mistakes with some of them). The scrambler rifleGÇÖs optimal range will be increased and weGÇÖll be releasing an iteration of the Tactical Assault Rifle with a smaller clip and much wider hip-fire spread making it less effective in CQC. If that change alone does not prove enough we will walk the damage of the TAR down slowly. No big, sweeping changes this time.
I just got my respec, but talks about new weapons in the near future and posisble place holder suits for the missing race variants, together with getting diffrent layout slots etc ...it got me on the fence on what i want my 12m sp specced into....
Idd dread to read "New weapons & suits incoming in 2 weeks after ive specced fully into Amarr & SR, dont get me wrong they are pretty good and i love the armor & weapons but at the same time i want to know the new slot layouts before i commit.
I mean its been a month and the Caldari Logi still has its 9 Ridiculous slots + Bonus over say the Amarr Assault with its puny amount of 6 slots and the bonus dont seem to work for the Semi version of their gun.
What if i spec into Amarr again and find out in the next iteration of their game i am supposed to have 2 highs & 4 lows ? or worse 1 high 5 lows.
With all the Gazillion respecs going on, are we going to keep getting a respec each time a skill is being added ?
I doubt it, and it got me on that fence looking down at all the skills and not knowing what to spec anymore....
On one side theres the Caldari Logi, that might get a Nerf, theres the less appealing Caldari Assault thats more horrible at assaulting then its caldari counterpart and on the amarr side we got the twin setups where logi & assault = copy but the logi is missing 60 whopping shields but comes with better stuff then its assault version.
Gallente isnt my thing, but Winmatar looks pretty neat with its 5/2 or 4/4 slot layouts, coupled with a neat autocannon hmmmm or maybe the Caldari with its mini sniper railgun ...
So ...i have no more clue into what to spec....
Might just can the main for a while till all the racial stuff is in and just play an alt with 500k sp...for some tear collecting.
ps: If you see me on my alt Targetta P. Ractice, ill be driving a Lav carrying Fused Nades with a Plasma Cannon rocking a Tearlock pistol, with the best hives under my feet ready to Tear you a new....you've been warned.
Sounds like a fun combo :) |
NoxiousMentos
Bojo's School of the Trades
9
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:38:00 -
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I really struggled with this for about half of today.Eventually I said screw it and specced back into minnie logi and TAC AR(Bring on the nerfs I will still rock that ****).The way I see it,If something better comes out or anything I have gets nerfed too bad to still use,I have plenty of time to get the sp to switch. |
Charlie 'Chaplin' Pennock
Ultramarine Corp
10
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:43:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Quote:CCP Remnant wrote: We'll be making some adjustments to the rifle ranges in the near future. We're currently testing the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle internally (the two missing archetypes). Within the assault rifle class the four weapon types will break down as follows:
Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - short range Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - short-mid range Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - mid range Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - long range
Keep in mind though that long range for an assault rifle is not equivalent to long range for a sniper rifle, so while they will adhere to existing category definitions don't expect massive differences in the distances between these weapons A lot of the original assault rifle variants (Breach, Burst, Tactical) were created to fill the gaps these newer weapons will fill and so mightGÇÖve felt out of place (not to mention we just plain made mistakes with some of them). The scrambler rifleGÇÖs optimal range will be increased and weGÇÖll be releasing an iteration of the Tactical Assault Rifle with a smaller clip and much wider hip-fire spread making it less effective in CQC. If that change alone does not prove enough we will walk the damage of the TAR down slowly. No big, sweeping changes this time. I just got my respec, but talks about new weapons in the near future and posisble place holder suits for the missing race variants, together with getting diffrent layout slots etc ...it got me on the fence on what i want my 12m sp specced into.... Idd dread to read "New weapons & suits incoming in 2 weeks after ive specced fully into Amarr & SR, dont get me wrong they are pretty good and i love the armor & weapons but at the same time i want to know the new slot layouts before i commit. I mean its been a month and the Caldari Logi still has its 9 Ridiculous slots + Bonus over say the Amarr Assault with its puny amount of 6 slots and the bonus dont seem to work for the Semi version of their gun. What if i spec into Amarr again and find out in the next iteration of their game i am supposed to have 2 highs & 4 lows ? or worse 1 high 5 lows. With all the Gazillion respecs going on, are we going to keep getting a respec each time a skill is being added ? I doubt it, and it got me on that fence looking down at all the skills and not knowing what to spec anymore.... On one side theres the Caldari Logi, that might get a Nerf, theres the less appealing Caldari Assault thats more horrible at assaulting then its caldari counterpart and on the amarr side we got the twin setups where logi & assault = copy but the logi is missing 60 whopping shields but comes with better stuff then its assault version. Gallente isnt my thing, but Winmatar looks pretty neat with its 5/2 or 4/4 slot layouts, coupled with a neat autocannon hmmmm or maybe the Caldari with its mini sniper railgun ... So ...i have no more clue into what to spec.... Might just can the main for a while till all the racial stuff is in and just play an alt with 500k sp...for some tear collecting. ps: If you see me on my alt Targetta P. Ractice, ill be driving a Lav carrying Fused Nades with a Plasma Cannon rocking a Tearlock pistol, with the best hives under my feet ready to Tear you a new....you've been warned. Sounds like a fun combo :)
Maybe focus more on core skills and other things less likely to change. But commitment can be scary, I get it man. Its like getting married. |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
113
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:45:00 -
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AND THIS IS WHY WE NEED PLACEHOLDERS
I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT CCP, BUT FOR GOD'S SAKE |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:46:00 -
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Only people that need to worry are the scrubs that got a respec just so they can use the FotM. Their tears will be most delicious once these changes are made. |
NoxiousMentos
Bojo's School of the Trades
10
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:48:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:Only people that need to worry are the scrubs that got a respec just so they can use the FotM. Their tears will be most delicious once these changes are made.
I'm one of those lucky few that used the fotm before knowing it was so,and will stick with it even after it ceases to be fotm.Not for lack of choice oh no,but because we like it and will rock with it regardless. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
321
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Posted - 2013.05.29 07:42:00 -
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Charlie 'Chaplin' Pennock wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Quote:CCP Remnant wrote: We'll be making some adjustments to the rifle ranges in the near future. We're currently testing the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle internally (the two missing archetypes). Within the assault rifle class the four weapon types will break down as follows:
Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - short range Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - short-mid range Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - mid range Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - long range
Keep in mind though that long range for an assault rifle is not equivalent to long range for a sniper rifle, so while they will adhere to existing category definitions don't expect massive differences in the distances between these weapons A lot of the original assault rifle variants (Breach, Burst, Tactical) were created to fill the gaps these newer weapons will fill and so mightGÇÖve felt out of place (not to mention we just plain made mistakes with some of them). The scrambler rifleGÇÖs optimal range will be increased and weGÇÖll be releasing an iteration of the Tactical Assault Rifle with a smaller clip and much wider hip-fire spread making it less effective in CQC. If that change alone does not prove enough we will walk the damage of the TAR down slowly. No big, sweeping changes this time. I just got my respec, but talks about new weapons in the near future and posisble place holder suits for the missing race variants, together with getting diffrent layout slots etc ...it got me on the fence on what i want my 12m sp specced into.... Idd dread to read "New weapons & suits incoming in 2 weeks after ive specced fully into Amarr & SR, dont get me wrong they are pretty good and i love the armor & weapons but at the same time i want to know the new slot layouts before i commit. I mean its been a month and the Caldari Logi still has its 9 Ridiculous slots + Bonus over say the Amarr Assault with its puny amount of 6 slots and the bonus dont seem to work for the Semi version of their gun. What if i spec into Amarr again and find out in the next iteration of their game i am supposed to have 2 highs & 4 lows ? or worse 1 high 5 lows. With all the Gazillion respecs going on, are we going to keep getting a respec each time a skill is being added ? I doubt it, and it got me on that fence looking down at all the skills and not knowing what to spec anymore.... On one side theres the Caldari Logi, that might get a Nerf, theres the less appealing Caldari Assault thats more horrible at assaulting then its caldari counterpart and on the amarr side we got the twin setups where logi & assault = copy but the logi is missing 60 whopping shields but comes with better stuff then its assault version. Gallente isnt my thing, but Winmatar looks pretty neat with its 5/2 or 4/4 slot layouts, coupled with a neat autocannon hmmmm or maybe the Caldari with its mini sniper railgun ... So ...i have no more clue into what to spec.... Might just can the main for a while till all the racial stuff is in and just play an alt with 500k sp...for some tear collecting. ps: If you see me on my alt Targetta P. Ractice, ill be driving a Lav carrying Fused Nades with a Plasma Cannon rocking a Tearlock pistol, with the best hives under my feet ready to Tear you a new....you've been warned. Sounds like a fun combo :) Maybe focus more on core skills and other things less likely to change. But commitment can be scary, I get it man. Its like getting married.
I guess i could use my Dren suit meanwhile and spec purely into core skills, but still ..might take a break for a few weeks wait till they fix this mess they are in.
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PonyClause Rex
TRAMADOL KNIGHTS
25
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Posted - 2013.05.29 07:52:00 -
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Train core skills or other skills you will use no matter what Drop suit upgrades, grenades, sub machine guns etc |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.05.29 08:23:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:Only people that need to worry are the scrubs that got a respec just so they can use the FotM. Their tears will be most delicious once these changes are made.
Obviously not a heavy, kept the suit grabbed a TAR so I canhit **** more than 15m away |
Spaceman-Rob
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2013.05.29 08:32:00 -
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NoxiousMentos wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:Only people that need to worry are the scrubs that got a respec just so they can use the FotM. Their tears will be most delicious once these changes are made. I'm one of those lucky few that used the fotm before knowing it was so,and will stick with it even after it ceases to be fotm.Not for lack of choice oh no,but because we like it and will rock with it regardless.
You won't like it so much when your not running round thinking your the boss anymore. |
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Bigglesworth McQueen
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
77
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Posted - 2013.05.29 09:10:00 -
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Toxin.
The answer to everything. |
VLIGHT5
The Judas Coalition
202
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Posted - 2013.05.29 09:41:00 -
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I haven't put any skills into weapons on my Logi yet. If the Minmatar Combat Rifle works then I'll spec into it. Until then I'll just be using my militia SMG |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
130
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:01:00 -
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Spec in passive skills, they are always useful, save some unallocated SP for the future. |
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