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WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:35:00 -
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I know there are some threads about this but couldn't find any. Highest range of all light weapons and high damage. Laser has lower optimal range, just like in EVE. SR has much lower optimal as well. They are testing how this weapon works in actual combat.
Only thing this weapon is missing to be balanced is a small charge up spool time just like all the railgun technology weapons, with the exception of the sniper. This imo will force the player to hold the trigger for a little bit every time he needs to fire. No modded controller and no mouse clicking. Also 100/100 to shields/armor. And increase assault SR range to be higher than conventional AR CCP. |
Snagman 313
Carbon 7
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Posted - 2013.05.26 09:46:00 -
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Agreed,
I currently have a lot of time to think right now and no connection or equipment to play dust...... oh the joys of working offshore.
And it's allowed me to step back a bit and analyse what's been going on, especially with the TAC AR.
As WyrmHero said I think the TAC AR will be dropped as soon as the Rail rifle rolls off the production line and this will sort out the current issue.
In fact I might write a post on my thoughts in a day or two on where I reckon things are going.
All the best,
Snag |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
185
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Posted - 2013.05.26 10:01:00 -
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Perhaps, though at fanfest CCP said that the rail rifle (or whatever the exact name is) is basically the breach AR. Also, the combat rifle (minmatar AR) is essentially the burst AR (three round burst). It was in the "Advancing the Core" presentation.
Personally, once they have them all, I think they should consider removing the variations within each race's weapon and leave just the four types:
Gal - fast full auto
Cal - slow full auto
Min - 3 round burst
Am - single shot
I kind of assumed the variations of the Gallente AR are/were just placeholders for the racial weapons that weren't finished yet anyway. |
Jenova's Witness
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.26 10:04:00 -
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Almost all the AR variants are basically placeholders for the other racial takes on a rifle in my opinion. The TAR is a souped up gauss rifle, the standard AR is a Minmatar combat rifle, but with reversed damage bonuses, and the breach is the real Gallente plasma rifle. This is why the AR class is so overpowered because it has the best of all four races at once, but none of their weaknesses because of their high DPS damage type. When the other racial weapons do arrive, I hope the devs attempt to rework the Gallente plasma rifle to actually act like a Gallente plasma rifle should. Mid/short optimal range, high DPS and an actual damage falloff. The Gallente plasma rifle should be one of the best light weapons in the game, not the best weapon in the game like it's behaving now. |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
318
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Posted - 2013.05.26 16:46:00 -
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Sete Clifton wrote:Perhaps, though at fanfest CCP said that the rail rifle (or whatever the exact name is) is basically the breach AR. Also, the combat rifle (minmatar AR) is essentially the burst AR (three round burst). It was in the "Advancing the Core" presentation.
Personally, once they have them all, I think they should consider removing the variations within each race's weapon and leave just the four types:
Gal - fast full auto
Cal - slow full auto
Min - 3 round burst
Am - single shot
I kind of assumed the variations of the Gallente AR are/were just placeholders for the racial weapons that weren't finished yet anyway.
I was looking up the ranges of the EVE turrets as to why the SR has lower optimal than the TAR and it all makes sense now. Breach AR has too low optimal to be a Caldari Gauss Rilfe. I think it'll be the TAR because it has much more optimal than the SR, like in EVE the railgun has more optimal than the pulse and even the beam laser, just like now in Dust.
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arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
269
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Posted - 2013.05.26 16:58:00 -
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This would be excellent and I'm looking forward to it eventually happening. a charge up time could be just thing for that blasted gun.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:05:00 -
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All assault rifles need overheat |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
319
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:18:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:All assault rifles need overheat
I don't mind if they don't have overheat really. To be balanced the assault SR has to have more range because it's a pulse laser, and pulse lasers have more optimal range than blasters. That and the upcoming Gauss Rifle will hopefully balance everything. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
460
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:22:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:All assault rifles need overheat
If they overheat then they would need less recoil and dispersion like the scramblers have. I agree with the OP that the rifles are likely place holders for the different racial ARs as the tact acts like the gauss rifle. However i cant believe the burst or the breach will be the minmatar rifles as either one of those weapons go against the minmatar weaponry philosophy. |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
321
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:02:00 -
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I think Minmatar will have a crazy ROF and less range than AR. |
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Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
187
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:15:00 -
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Check this video out at 10:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKYglEoJyNc
Caldari Rifle = Rail Rifle "The rail rifle is similiar in terms of rate of fire and things to the current Gallente breach AR."
Minmatar Rifle = Combat Rifle "The combat rifle is similar to the burst rifle, it's a three shot burst."
Gallente Pistol = Iron Pistol "The iron pistol is a short range fast firing pistol. It also have a very powerful charge shot."
Caldari Pistol = Bolt Pistol "The bolt pistol is a giant desert eagle, it essentially puts a whole in anything that is in front of it." |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
323
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:29:00 -
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Sete Clifton wrote:Check this video out at 10:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKYglEoJyNcCaldari Rifle = Rail Rifle "The rail rifle is similiar in terms of rate of fire and things to the current Gallente breach AR." Minmatar Rifle = Combat Rifle "The combat rifle is similar to the burst rifle, it's a three shot burst." Gallente Pistol = Ion Pistol "The ion pistol is a short range fast firing pistol. It also have a very powerful charge shot." Caldari Pistol = Bolt Pistol "The bolt pistol is a giant desert eagle, it essentially puts a whole in anything that is in front of it."
Wha oh c'mon breach? That thing doesn't have any range!!!! Rail Rifle = miniature railgun good for mid to long range!!!!!
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