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DJINN Kujo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
203
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Posted - 2013.05.26 06:49:00 -
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In all honesty i feel like CCP is on the sides of the EU corporations or perhaps because the CPM is in Betamax. The Dust Community remembers the video I posted concerning the AWOXing Hellstorm had been in conflict with against Betamax.
Not only did we get "AWOX'd", but clearly seen from this picture you still have no empathy for the case at hand. I understand you have 'a lot' of stuff going on doing whatever your doing. But I find it rather amusing that this particular case regarding BetaMax. get's overlooked when this is a known problem, but other members in the community reporting the same issue get a fix for their problem (and I wish I had pictures of those tickets, but at this time I do not; to show validity to my story.)
Long story short; you've pushed this off, now I am making it public in hope there's an answer to this. Even if it's as simple as "This is a known problem, and we have _______ looking into it." |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
157
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Posted - 2013.05.26 06:56:00 -
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Damn. That'd be pretty frustrating. |
DJINN Kujo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
204
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Posted - 2013.05.26 06:59:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Damn. That'd be pretty frustrating.
It really is cause their generally REALLY good about responding to submitted tickets, and they usually respond within 24 hours notice. But seeing how it will be a week today.... rather annoying. |
Kazeno Rannaa
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
175
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Posted - 2013.05.26 07:55:00 -
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Maybe it is because spies and intrigue are all apart of EVE. If you don't want moles getting to a match a person must be very careful about who they drag into the match and be fully aware of all the mechanics of PC.
I.E., Do some homework. We did. And that seems to work. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
175
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:13:00 -
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The current Teamkilling thing is really weird for me. On one side, yes, spying and infiltration are huge parts of EVE. Nothing is more interesting than hearing about how three spies going into a corporation and cleaned it out using a variety of tactics that mirror real world espionage.
However, the problem with the current system is that any infiltration involves using game mechanics to cripple the target rather than in EVE where it is human interaction. It is using up Clones where in real life a corporation would have control on the "who gets revived" button. "Hmm, this guy is killing out guys; maybe he shouldn't be put back in another clone."
I am really torn on the issue. I do like the idea of spying and infiltration from EVE put into a game that can actually be played but it shouldn't involve exploiting game mechanics. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
751
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:24:00 -
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Get better? |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
495
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:25:00 -
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In Eve game mechanics are used all the time to grief people. I don't know what you're talking about.
This is a part of New Eden. People need to get used to it.
The victory should have counted, however. There is nothing right about that particular situation. |
RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
130
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:49:00 -
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CCP FoxFour has stated that they're implementing a short - term fix (kicking players) while they refine PC mechanics |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
296
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:57:00 -
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I actually please i'm not involve in all this BS...
It looks hard work, unenjoyable, unsociable, unnecessary, and very stupid way to play a game....
Is that is CCP's idea of "Competitive" game-play, i think i going to Skip that part of Dust 514. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1677
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Posted - 2013.05.26 09:39:00 -
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Meta should stop once the boots hit the ground. As has been proven, it is making the actually shooting people pointless.
Commanders need tools to manage and kick. If you can rise the ranks then you win by sandbagging the team or not letting anyone join. Actually negating the gun fighting makes this just a console EVE and that is not only not fun, but pointless redundancy. |
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S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
53
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Posted - 2013.05.26 09:44:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:CCP FoxFour has stated that they're implementing a short - term fix (kicking players) while they refine PC mechanics
so u get in a match with spies in yo team , u kik them out then u still fkt since u short on ppl
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
131
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Posted - 2013.05.26 10:29:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:CCP FoxFour has stated that they're implementing a short - term fix (kicking players) while they refine PC mechanics so u get in a match with spies in yo team , u kik them out then u still fkt since u short on ppl kick option should work only on the war barge before match starts and lock your squads , accept who u know in Just remembered that you can kick only from the Warbarage, and not in-game. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
65
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Posted - 2013.05.26 10:40:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:S0LlD SNAKE wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:CCP FoxFour has stated that they're implementing a short - term fix (kicking players) while they refine PC mechanics so u get in a match with spies in yo team , u kik them out then u still fkt since u short on ppl kick option should work only on the war barge before match starts and lock your squads , accept who u know in Just remembered that you can kick only from the Warbarage, and not in-game.
In that case it just sounds like they need to answer the ticket with "when" they will be implementing the short term fix to calm the matter down. |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
33
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Posted - 2013.05.26 10:45:00 -
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In either case CCP need to hurry up and implement a squad commander position that can freely lock squads/kick people/ bring in replacements as necessary or else PC will turn into a worst version than SOV grinding |
steadyhand amarr
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
605
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Posted - 2013.05.26 10:45:00 -
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i binary release which will be needed to fix the issue would at the minimum take around a week or two just to get past Sony. also why are still bitching over this out of every unit you came on top with a huge PR boost over this? |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
604
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Posted - 2013.05.26 11:21:00 -
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Kazeno Rannaa wrote:Maybe it is because spies and intrigue are all apart of EVE. If you don't want moles getting to a match a person must be very careful about who they drag into the match and be fully aware of all the mechanics of PC.
I.E., Do some homework. We did. And that seems to work.
Plus is this really an issue for CCP to resolve, or is this an issue of internal maintenance on the part of your corp? Though you may have won the battle, that doesn't necessarily mean that you actually won the district. Which means that if you didn't win the district, which it sounds like since they were able to change their timer, then that would look like a fail on your part in preparing yourself thoroughly.
Sorry to hear that. Better luck next time.
While I agree on principle, the current ease of AWOXing is a bit too much. One brand corp member can bring an entire squad of randoms into PC, which doesn't really make sense from game mechanic or game world perspective.
But Devs need to be very careful with their fix, so that it doesn't go against New Eden's principles, and still allows betraying your corp with potentially catastrophic results for a corp. |
DJINN Kujo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
212
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:29:00 -
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The ticket specifically isn't about AWOXing, if you actually read it, it's about the battle that we got AWOXed in... we won the fight, which means the district should of been under attack still.... it wasn't. It was immediately "online' after we had won, not only was it online but BetaMax. was able to change the reinforcement timer acting like nothing had happened.
That's what I am getting at... please read the information before escalating to something concerning AWOXing. |
Sev Kimura
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
128
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:36:00 -
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I watched the district change timers right after the fight from 2000gmt to 1800gmt.....that's a little shady to say the least.
1. How did betamax change a reinforcment timer right after a battle....and one that they lost?
2. How did their clones show they were still maxed out, like they had won the battle?
And then CCP hasn't even said a peep of a word since this incident....not saying they caused this exploit/glitch/whatever you want to call it, purposefully, but they are not saying so much as a sorry, so it leads me to start believing some bad **** might be going on. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
399
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:43:00 -
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Waaah, waaah, waaah. Bunch of babies. |
Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
66
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:52:00 -
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Seriously, as much as everyone loves arguing about AWOX'ing, that has nothing to do with the problem here.
Intentionally or not, Betamax was able to take advantage of a bug in the PC mechanics that allowed them to change the timer on a district that had just lost a battle. I'd imagine it also received its reinforcement clones.
If this bug was more prevalent or able to be intentionally replicated it would be absolutely game breaking for PC. Even if it isn't, it still screws a corporation out of the benefits of winning a PC battle, while still costing them their own clones and equipment.
It needs to be addressed. |
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1317
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:52:00 -
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prohibit non-corp members to join corp battles |
Icy TIG3R
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
193
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:01:00 -
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Honestly, some of the people who posted here are complete idiots. It's not about AWOXING or how easy it is (another matter entirely) its how a bug led to Betamax getting an unfair advantage due to a PC bug.
Damnit scrubs, please lvl up reading proficiency. Its pretty OP. |
Sev Kimura
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
132
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:36:00 -
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So, still no response to this CCP? |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
501
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:47:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:Honestly, some of the people who posted here are complete idiots. It's not about AWOXING or how easy it is (another matter entirely) its how a bug led to Betamax getting an unfair advantage due to a PC bug.
Damnit scrubs, please lvl up reading proficiency. Its pretty OP.
I can't say I blame them. Every 5 minutes a new OMG OP, NERF THIS NERF THAT thread comes up that just says the same thing again and again. If the OP wanted to have his thread read without the misunderstanding, they would have known that AWOXING was the hot button subject and they should have just put.
Betamax took our district and it didn't lock and they just reset the timer without waiting, I opened a ticket, where is the response.
Level up your learn how to stick to the point proficiency. |
StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
23
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:49:00 -
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Sev Kimura wrote:So, still no response to this CCP?
LOL what do you want them to say?
" Yep our game is broke, welcome to New Eden, HTFU or GTFO, sorry for the F-up now have a nice day."
We won't see a fix for this any sooner than we are going to see a fix for the LAG/DC issues. Something about in a few weeks maybe. |
Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
270
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:59:00 -
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StubbyDucky wrote:Sev Kimura wrote:So, still no response to this CCP? LOL what do you want them to say? " Yep our game is broke, welcome to New Eden, HTFU or GTFO, sorry for the F-up now have a nice day." We won't see a fix for this any sooner than we are going to see a fix for the LAG/DC issues. Something about in a few weeks maybe. Kujo and Sev are continuing to focus and draw attention to the shadiness of the affair and SI members are misdirecting the topic to AWOXing.
It is pretty clear there is some favortism happening here. Maybe even more, the implications that this is the effect of a bug that a ticket isn't going to fix is staggering. Even though all signs seems to point to CCP helping Betamax.
This war is dirty, being fought with weapons beyond our control, for now. My point is this is likely NOT a bug, and Kujo and Sev are implying something dangerous. CCP rigged the fight.
Not sure I want to play a game that I can't win. The evidence keeps stacking up. 1. CPM selection 2. AWOXing endorsements 3. Headstart in PC 4. Freepass with North American opponents. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
501
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:02:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote: It is pretty clear there is some favortism happening here. Maybe even more, the implications that this is the effect of a bug that a ticket isn't going to fix is staggering. Even though all signs seems to point to CCP helping Betamax.
This war is dirty, being fought with weapons beyond our control, for now.
This post is awesome. Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. |
Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
270
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:07:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Severance Pay wrote: It is pretty clear there is some favortism happening here. Maybe even more, the implications that this is the effect of a bug that a ticket isn't going to fix is staggering. Even though all signs seems to point to CCP helping Betamax.
This war is dirty, being fought with weapons beyond our control, for now. This post is awesome. Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. All I am saying is "you wanna play dirty? We can play dirty :-)" |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:23:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:In all honesty i feel like CCP is on the sides of the EU corporations or perhaps because the CPM is in Betamax. The Dust Community remembers the video I posted concerning the AWOXing Hellstorm had been in conflict with against Betamax. Not only did we get "AWOX'd", but clearly seen from this picture you still have no empathy for the case at hand. I understand you have 'a lot' of stuff going on doing whatever your doing. But I find it rather amusing that this particular case regarding BetaMax. get's overlooked when this is a known problem, but other members in the community reporting the same issue get a fix for their problem (and I wish I had pictures of those tickets, but at this time I do not; to show validity to my story.) Long story short; you've pushed this off, now I am making it public in hope there's an answer to this. Even if it's as simple as "This is a known problem, and we have _______ looking into it." Edit: Look at the picture submitted to further explicate the matter at hand, this particular ticket isn't concerning "AWOXing" in any way, shape or form; but simply that we attacked a district, we won, but the district was immediately back online after the fight thus allowing BetaMax. to change their reinforcement timer which wasn't feasible to attack again.
This is why you must support Kane. |
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